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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby JamaicanPattlez » Oct 24th, '13, 08:45

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VINTAGƎ wrote:I actually read an article the other day that said leaks help already established artists sales wise, by a few hundred thousand copies.

Makes sense when you think about it. The hardcore loyal fans will buy it regardless, the haters won't buy it regardless. The borderlines will depending on the quality. It's no different than going to a friend's house to hear it or hearing it in their car and saying "hmm, i have to check that out."

Stats continue to show if something is good, people will buy it, regardless of leaks.


Exactly. An album leaking could help your sales if your product is great. People WILL be more inclined to buy it if they honestly support you and love the music. Those who won't buy probably never would've intended on it anyway, and people will illegally download the music, leak or no leak. That's why labels do iTunes streams now, because it's probably one of the best promo tactics they can use. If they stream the album, that means they're extremely confident in the product they're selling to the consumers, like The 20/20 Experience Part I and II, Channel Orange (if I remember correctly) and Bangerz (Not great, but it's radioactive.. and I guess that was their aim) to name a few examples. Look at Macklemore's The Heist album. Independent and he's on his way to sell a Milli if he hasn't already. Make an amazing product, and people will be more likely to pay for it. Promo tactics vary from artist to artist, but that's for another post.


Exactly. I think I wrote about the itunes thing before. They do the whole streaming thing a week before and it works. I loved Futuresex but was ehh on Suit And Tie, so I wasn't convinced. Saw the stream on itunes and decided to give it a chance. Enjoyed it and bought the album.

Streams like that are the way of the future. Because it's more accessible. Instead of feeling nervous about downloading a file illegally, or not even being savvy enough to know where to find the leak, it's right there for you on a safe site. And now itunes allows it on the phone so you can play it in the car or outside somewhere.

Hey, if it wasn't for streams (netflix) I would have never watched Breaking Bad one boring summer night last year. The rest is history. I caught up, followed the show till the end, and am on the verge of dropping $200 on the barrel set as a bday gift to myself. The streams are still on netflix, and I'm sure at some point they'll have all 5 seasons, but the product was too good for me to not show my support financially.

If your product is good, people will buy.


Exactly. If people like it, they WILL buy it. So what matters is the quality. Cause when they did that for 20/20 Experience Part 1 I bought that first day, pre-ordered it too. I'm gonna try getting Part 2 cause I liked that even more, but MMLP2's coming, so.. yeah. But it's true, people will buy it if it's an amazing product, and how will people know it's a great product if they can't experience it? That's why people download illegally. A lot of people wanna know if it's worth dropping a 20 on an album when they could've used that to buy a meal or put some gas in the tank, pay phone and house bills, or anything. It matters. Especially from people like me who don't always have spare money lying around to just waste it. Streaming is definitely the way to go, I think. Cause you can still buy the actual album. When you do buy it, you can jump to songs easily, make your own playlists, and if you buy the physical, you get to have it in CDQ (It makes the difference, trust me) and get that nice looking booklet. There's always a benefit to buying an album, but people wanna know if it's worth spending the 20 on. That's the thing.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Willou » Oct 24th, '13, 08:48

Apparently in few hours according https://twitter.com/FazedottArtist
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby grayfox318 » Oct 24th, '13, 08:56

Willou wrote:Apparently in few hours according https://twitter.com/FazedottArtist



would be cool but... :facepalm
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby VINTAGƎ » Oct 24th, '13, 09:08

@Pattlez -- totally bro. Agreed. :y:

@Willou -- yeah sounds about right if true. I'm on my way to sleep. I had a feeling it would leak either during my sleep or while I was in school.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby HellzBells » Oct 24th, '13, 09:09

grayfox318 wrote:
Willou wrote:Apparently in few hours according [url]t[/url]



would be cool but... :facepalm


Thank god i lurked for the past 400 odd pages or i would have done the same as this guy. Read the rules, refer to the 4 million previous fakes and grab yourself a jar full of salt.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby Willou » Oct 24th, '13, 09:28

VINTAGƎ wrote:@Pattlez -- totally bro. Agreed. :y:

@Willou -- yeah sounds about right if true. I'm on my way to sleep. I had a feeling it would leak either during my sleep or while I was in school.

Have a good night, at Paris it's the morning :p
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby grayfox318 » Oct 24th, '13, 09:33

Willou wrote:
VINTAGƎ wrote:@Pattlez -- totally bro. Agreed. :y:

@Willou -- yeah sounds about right if true. I'm on my way to sleep. I had a feeling it would leak either during my sleep or while I was in school.

Have a good night, at Paris it's the morning :p



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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby cryonseris » Oct 24th, '13, 09:42

grayfox318 wrote:
Willou wrote:Apparently in few hours according https://twitter.com/FazedottArtist



would be cool but... :facepalm


I don't care anymore. The album's gonna be released in less than 2 weeks, I think I can wait.

In other news, Survival finally got released on the UK iTunes store. :whistle:

EDIT: Does anyone else think the iTunes preorder might go up today? It'll be a week since he said it would be coming "soon".

I'm guessing either today or Tuesday.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby cryonseris » Oct 24th, '13, 10:03

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Nothing.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby monobloss » Oct 24th, '13, 10:04

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Willou wrote:Apparently in few hours according https://twitter.com/FazedottArtist

I don't believe this, but it'd be cool if it's true. This guy seems less sketchy than anyone else so far and has 20k followers, but I thought that Agent Smith guy seemed kinda legit at first too, so it's probably fucking fake. I do like that this Fazedot guy isn't attention whoring, getting in petty fights, or releasing bullshit "snippets." He seems like someone who genuinely knows publishers, supposedly being in music himself, and I like that he isn't claiming to have it yet. He's just trying to get it and if he gets it, he'll share it.


He is our best bet for now.
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Revolutionary wrote:FUCKIN' LEAK ALREADY!!!


It's not leaking bro. Never will. Well it will, on 5th nov.

I'm 100% positive it will leak before that. I'm so positive, that if it doesnt, I will never have Emma Stone in my sig again.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby cryonseris » Oct 24th, '13, 10:08

charlottemathers wrote:Smh he's gonna leak it through Skype..


Which means what, exactly? :confusion:
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby alicia11 » Oct 24th, '13, 10:14

But if it leaks too early, I think it will kill the hype. Next week will be good for them to start streaming or for leakers to leak...but this week, I don't want that. I know Recovery leaked two weeks ago, but Not Afraid had huge hype on its own and the songs leaked were promising upon first listen. I can't say the same things about this album so far yet. Rap God had some good hype, but it didn't last, not to mention Berzerk. If the album actually leaked this week and then hype dies down 5 days later...not good for sales I think.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby cryonseris » Oct 24th, '13, 10:15

guiltyhiphop wrote:
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charlottemathers wrote:Smh he's gonna leak it through Skype..


Which means what, exactly? :confusion:

He's goin to 'play' it through skype.

What a fucking bullshitter.


wat

I guess we'll find out soon... :coffee:
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby monobloss » Oct 24th, '13, 10:21

alicia11 wrote:But if it leaks too early, I think it will kill the hype. Next week will be good for them to start streaming or for leakers to leak...but this week, I don't want that. I know Recovery leaked two weeks ago, but Not Afraid had huge hype on its own and the songs leaked were promising upon first listen. I can't say the same things about this album so far yet. Rap God had some good hype, but it didn't last, not to mention Berzerk. If the album actually leaked this week and then hype dies down 5 days later...not good for sales I think.


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Revolutionary wrote:FUCKIN' LEAK ALREADY!!!


It's not leaking bro. Never will. Well it will, on 5th nov.

I'm 100% positive it will leak before that. I'm so positive, that if it doesnt, I will never have Emma Stone in my sig again.
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Re: Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 (Discussion/Anticipation)

Postby cryonseris » Oct 24th, '13, 10:40

Shit, my prediction for it leaking by the end of Wednesday was wrong.

New prediction: it'll leak by the end of next Wednesday. 100% guaranteed, fam :b:
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