Last nites Grammy's

[Sukot]

Yeah, actually, in all fairness, the rate thing I just did, was only based off the tracks I've heard from each one. The only one I've heard all of is Eminem's. The rest I've heard all the singles, plus a few album tracks, so I'm possible not qualified to judge. Although if I was basing Recovery off the singles and a few of the more well-known album tracks (Won't Back Down, Space Bound, etc.), I'd've probably still rated it the same way.

At the end of the day, it's just my opinion, and there's a degree of overlap anyway. Like the best track from Katy Perry's album is probably better than the worst track from Eminem's album (so basically Firework is better than Won't Back Down (in my OPINION (which is apparently not worth considering because I think Eminem is better than sex (but again, that's just my OPINION)))))))))))).

[Master Chief]

Slimm you wasting your time, these guys are just massive fucking Stans who think Eminem should win every award ever because he is the best musician in the world and nobody can ever be as good as him.

You're nothing less than blind if you can't see the robbery, the Grammys comitted to Eminem. Stop trying to be a little rebel and act all cool by calling us "blind stans" and go against Eminem. That shouldn't be an insult on an Eminem forum anyway.

You my friend are the blind one if you decry a band as shit just because they beat Eminem at a poxy award show that the old Eminem wouldn't even give a fuck about, and i doubt he really cares even now.

They're shit because I listened to them. They're totally generic and SHIT. But, that's opinion. Recovery crushed The Suburbs in sales. Every album nominated did too. So, if it wasn't Eminem it shoud've been the others (Gaga, Katy P.) which aren't as bad as Arcade Fire.

Also...

Oh and another thing. If Song Of The Year is judged on songwriting then LTWYL easily, shits, stomps, destroys, crushes, diminishes, (add similar adjectives here) any other song nominated. Not only is it 100x more complex lyrically (obviously,...it IS Hip-Hop, where the lyricism is much more complex than other genre) but the lyrical content is very relevant, relatable and sometimes even poetic. To me, that was the biggest robbery committed towards Eminem along with the blatantly obvious AOTY.

Refute that.

[Slimm]

You saying Katy Perry is better than AF is enough, I don't even have to make a point.

Oh and another thing. If Song Of The Year is judged on songwriting then LTWYL easily, shits, stomps, destroys, crushes, diminishes, (add similar adjectives here) any other song nominated. Not only is it 100x more complex lyrically (obviously,...it IS Hip-Hop, where the lyricism is much more complex than other genre) but the lyrical content is very relevant, relatable and sometimes even poetic. To me, that was the biggest robbery committed towards Eminem along with the blatantly obvious AOTY.

Why is it more complex? Because the genre revolves around it? Have you ever stopped to think that most other genres have their own way to create complex and very deep lyrics with less words? Hell, I rate most bands above most rappers when it comes to lyrics.

[pHiLLip fARkLe]

yea this shit crashed on me for a bit and i had to go do a run right quick...
but, i aint out here defendin eminem bro... i said some other dude said that shit.
all i do is drop my 2 cents and keep on walkin.
sure,ill discuss something but i aint on the internet to argue.
and when i discuss i never ever come at no one highlighting and underlining shit in quotes and reply with some wack pamphlet of paragraphs about how your wrong and im right.
if i quote its either someone callin me out or an agreement... and i dont fuck with arguments. i just make my voice heard.

[Master Chief]

I've never seen a rock band/pop artist rhyme: feels like/steel knife/still fight, windpipe/can fight/in-flight, drunk from the hate/huffin' paint/suffocate/(re)-ssucitates/fucking hates (me)/love it wait/

All from LTWYL. ^ That's just one of the reason lyrics in Hip Hop are more complex than other genres.

[TheGentlePlayer]

LTWYL is #27 on ITunes now

[pHiLLip fARkLe]

and i never once said a negative thing about anybody that won over eminem in any category either.
i really dont give a flyin fuck about who wins what, it aint gunna make me listen to them if i dont like that kind of music. i listen to classic rock if i want rock, i dont like alternative or country or metal, i like the old school shit if its rock. so dont get me twisted with 88 percent of other posters on eminem forums. i aint that.

[pHiLLip fARkLe]

oops, my bad yall when i replied earlier in the thread the site started crashin for me and shit so i was like fuck went outside and smoked a lil and came back in and thought of what to say again. sorry i posted basically the same thing twice i was positive that paragraph i wrote wouldnt post that shit always fuckin happens, then in 10 minutes it works and i have to login three times in a row.
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[Satire]

^ Lol, do you take pics of yourself as you post and upload them or do you just have a large collection of them ready to select when you log on the forum?

[mareble412]

Eminem deserved it hands down. I listen to all genres of music and is obvious that the grammy's have a hatred towards hip-hop period. When was the last time a rap album won for album of the year? 2003, cause it was outkast. It's bull. Are you telling me that since 2003 no Rap album was worthy of such an award? it BS. and people who try to to justify it just cant. The only genre that wins at the grammys are Country because its 'safe'. I say EM should join 50 and not go back--that will hurt their rating

[NicoleEM]

1.Educate us in what?Into liking Arcada?Thats all about taste.I do listen to other genres, just not rock or alternative-however u call it.If that makes me ignorant then so be it.
2.I didnt say Eminem should have won AOTY cause we all know they will never give that one to a hip-hop artist.So yeah surprise,it wasn't even a Stan rant.And this "Saying they are 'emo fags' with make up makes you ignorant."didnt came from me,so next time dont put words in my mouth.I dont judge people based on how they look(or else i would never ever listen to yelawolf)
3.Again,i do listen to other music besides hip-hop so u fail once more.What i heard last night live it wasnt refreshing at all,they sounded like any rock band outhere to me(and my ignorant sense of hearing).Em switched his style every damn album he got out,so ur point(They are influential, original and refreshing and stay that way every album. Something Eminem (with all due respect) has failed to do) is in fact invalid.
4.No they aren't very known worlwide and outside their genre.Just looking into their twitter trend last night and seeing people asking "who are these guys?ill google them" or just the fact that they have lil over 100k followers, makes me think im not the only one thinking this way.And i doubt twitter is full of hip-hop fans lol.(this was just an example since we DO live a life full of internet apps)
@Kez This wasnt even a STAN rant lol.I think many of us wouldnt have been surprised if Gaga or Lady A or Katy would have won AOTY.Just like we wouldnt have been surprised if Drake or JB wud have won best new artist.So no i dont think Eminem is the best in the world in any genre,but some of these awards were given to the wrong people.
If you2 were such big fans of this band before how come none of you ever mentioned them on this forum?Just made a lil search and guess what?No thread about it lol. #justsaying
PS:It's an opinion anyway,but i see Slimm is trying to make some of us get into Arcada.Someone whould remind him we are on a hip-hop forum tho.#Fact :Not many hip-hop fans are into alternative music.
Still lov'ya guys haha

[pHiLLip fARkLe]

^ Lol, do you take pics of yourself as you post and upload them or do you just have a large collection of them ready to select when you log on the forum?

yea i gotta photobucket with alot of shit on there, got all them old smileys and i just recently started taking new ones just cuz i needed a change, and a fresh look. but i upload them all at one time so they are just ready to use whenever

[Slimm]

Nicole I'm not gonna respond because I've been posting here for a while now and I'm getting tired of saying the same old stuff over and over again.

Just wanted to show you this though:
viewtopic.php?f=51&t=93846&p=1283881&hilit=arcade+fire#p1283881

[Kez]

Oh and another thing. If Song Of The Year is judged on songwriting then LTWYL easily, shits, stomps, destroys, crushes, diminishes, (add similar adjectives here) any other song nominated. Not only is it 100x more complex lyrically (obviously,...it IS Hip-Hop, where the lyricism is much more complex than other genre) but the lyrical content is very relevant, relatable and sometimes even poetic. To me, that was the biggest robbery committed towards Eminem along with the blatantly obvious AOTY.

Love The Way You Lie is a piece of overrated garbage.

[TheGentlePlayer]

^^
It helped Recovery alot