MMLP2 General Discussion

[LilWayne]

I may be the only one on this forum who doesn't give a fuck about D12 post 2006
I don't think they can pull another GREAT album without Proof .
I can't even notice the difference between Swifty and Kuniva lmao

No you are not the only one.
I always thought that d12 never could really rap.
They only had the production of eminem and some good marketing ideas, nothing more.

tbh .
Devil's Night is still a classic tho
Eminem , Proof and the production on the album ..

Proof is overrated.

[OutlawƎ]

I may be the only one on this forum who doesn't give a fuck about D12 post 2006
I don't think they can pull another GREAT album without Proof .
I can't even notice the difference between Swifty and Kuniva lmao
tbh .
Devil's Night is still a classic tho
Eminem , Proof and the production on the album ..

Proof is overrated.

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Still better than Lil Wayne
and Proof is the 2nd best of D12 after Eminem

[yoda you can call me]

^3edgy5me
lil painintheass

[SoldierShady]

Proof could freestyle like an absolute bauss, I'll give him that. As an artist/rapper he was aiight for the most part.

[Francesco]

You are wrong CP... we were never any close of getting a D12 official album since Em's comeback.
The BME project happened exactly 'cuz it was given a green light & 'cuz even today it is way more easier to do rather than a D12 LP.
The label factor is definitely there but like I pointed out in that detailed post... it's isn't the only one or the decisive one.

Actually, we were close at one point. Eminem and company were working on a project (some producer close to them confirmed this), but they couldn't get any unreleased verses from one of Proofs colleagues, I believe it was Dogmatic, unless they put him on the album too. For whatever reason, they didn't want him to be part of the album, and it fell apart from there because they wanted the Proof verses to do the project.
Then you have the situation with Fuzz, Fuzz was legally signed onto Shady (this was confirmed by him, I remember Trex posting it somewhere). Shady records wouldn't have approved him being legally bound to the company as part of D12 unless there was some reason, like a D12 album.
Check yo' facts homie. Perhaps there is label pressure, but there was definitely something D12 in the works post comeback at some point.

Well you got it all wrong my brother...
I would have easily agreed with you if it was about D12 (not all of them together) been working on side projects or trying to do so post Em comeback but you actually said we've been *this close* of getting a D12 project at some point & this can't never be a fact. I mean if you were talking about an official album of course.
There was not even a project done yet so we'd be even close of getting it... not to mention there haven't been enough sessions to even have a batch of songs that could result into shaping an album.
The other things is there were too many creative differences in the group & Mr.Porter said he's leaving the group 'cuz of it.
Basically they couldn't even get on the same page if we talk about subject matter or whatever so they couldn't even get to a point of getting into the studio & working on an actual Shady records official album which was never planned to be as all the rest projects that came in that EM post comeback period of time...
We've been very very far away from getting a D12 album post Em comeback & that's a fact... all the rest is small talk.

I love D12 & I was the one who brought that it'd be great if Em went full circle with having a D12 album after MMLP2 & I certainly hope for it but realistically this is nearly impossible at this point.

[Coulter]

Well you got it all wrong my brother...
I would have easily agreed with you if it was about D12 (not all of them together) been working on side projects or trying to do so post Em comeback but you actually said we've been *this close* of getting a D12 project at some point & this can't never be a fact. I mean if you were talking about an official album of course.
There was not even a project done yet so we'd be even close of getting it... not to mention there haven't been enough sessions to even have a batch of songs that could result into shaping an album.
The other things is there were too many creative differences in the group & Mr.Porter said he's leaving the group 'cuz of it.
Basically they couldn't even get on the same page if we talk about subject matter or whatever so they couldn't even get to a point of getting into the studio & working on an actual Shady records official album which was never planned to be as all the rest projects that came in that EM post comeback period of time...
We've been very very far away from getting a D12 album post Em comeback & that's a fact... all the rest is small talk.

I love D12 & I was the one who brought that it'd be great if Em went full circle with having a D12 album after MMLP2 & I certainly hope for it but realistically this is nearly impossible at this point.

I don't see how any of what you're saying makes sense, it's really pointless to talk about, tbh. It makes just as much sense to say that we were close to having an album than to say we weren't, just because no one knows. There seemed to be more evidence pointed towards an actual project in the works than it not happening, based on what producers have said in the past. D12 has likely always had problems, as every group does. The trouble you're talking about likely occurred from 2006-2008, before Em came back. Most of it was addressed in Fame, with Em saying that they were over all the shit and ready to spit fire. Dunno, just doesn't seem right to count it out, same as believing it was true. We may never know, as the only ones that have this info are Paul and D12. Guess we just have to be patient.

[Francesco]

Well you got it all wrong my brother...
I would have easily agreed with you if it was about D12 (not all of them together) been working on side projects or trying to do so post Em comeback but you actually said we've been *this close* of getting a D12 project at some point & this can't never be a fact. I mean if you were talking about an official album of course.
There was not even a project done yet so we'd be even close of getting it... not to mention there haven't been enough sessions to even have a batch of songs that could result into shaping an album.
The other things is there were too many creative differences in the group & Mr.Porter said he's leaving the group 'cuz of it.
Basically they couldn't even get on the same page if we talk about subject matter or whatever so they couldn't even get to a point of getting into the studio & working on an actual Shady records official album which was never planned to be as all the rest projects that came in that EM post comeback period of time...
We've been very very far away from getting a D12 album post Em comeback & that's a fact... all the rest is small talk.

I love D12 & I was the one who brought that it'd be great if Em went full circle with having a D12 album after MMLP2 & I certainly hope for it but realistically this is nearly impossible at this point.

I don't see how any of what you're saying makes sense, it's really pointless to talk about, tbh. It makes just as much sense to say that we were close to having an album than to say we weren't, just because no one knows. There seemed to be more evidence pointed towards an actual project in the works than it not happening, based on what producers have said in the past. D12 has likely always had problems, as every group does. The trouble you're talking about likely occurred from 2006-2008, before Em came back. Most of it was addressed in Fame, with Em saying that they were over all the shit and ready to spit fire. Dunno, just doesn't seem right to count it out, same as believing it was true. We may never know, as the only ones that have this info are Paul and D12. Guess we just have to be patient.

Ironically this is what doesn't makes sense at all...

It makes just as much sense to say that we were close to having an album than to say we weren't, just because no one knows.

Obviously been close to getting an album is when people actually know about it coming.
In your logic we've been close to getting more albums we haven't known about. lol
Enough said.

The trouble you're talking about likely occurred from 2006-2008, before Em came back

No... the problems I was talking about happened exactly when you say an album has been close to dropping.

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.1 ... is-is-dead

Don't bother to talk about stuff you don't have idea about.

[Crazee]

Em should just do a collabo album. They could do a few D12 tracks, and maybe Em would actually work with good rappers more often on a collabo project.

Nah, we still wouldn't get Tech or Nas. lol

[Francesco]

Em should just do a collabo album. They could do a few D12 tracks, and maybe Em would actually work with good rappers more often on a collabo project.
Nah, we still wouldn't get Tech or Nas. lol

Well Shady 2.0 album with all the rappers/acts on the label would be dope actually...

[shadyblogger]

I think an Eminem-Hopsin collab would be quite interesting

[Coulter]

It just doesn't seem like they were having problems, but rather the two of them departed due to their own shit. They had that whole argument about leaving the group, so why the hell would it point to them not being able to record? Swifty was pissed as shit when they left, and that led to those twitter arguments. Kuniva was sad about all the shit happening, so, if a group was having problems all the time, why would they seem so disappointed with each other leaving? It looked like it came out of the blue. In the case of not hearing about the album, we didn't know shit about MMLP2 until a month or two ahead. We obviously knew Em was recording, but other than that, it was just an album. I never heard anyone say that they weren't recording, and following the 2.0 cypher, one of the guys were still talking about D12 coming. So yes, I agree with CP, it seemed pretty damn certain that we were coming close.

[Whitefox]

I think an Eminem-Hopsin collab would be quite interesting

No.

[shadyblogger]

I think an Eminem-Hopsin collab would be quite interesting

No.

Why?

[CanadaPure]

Well you got it all wrong my brother...
I would have easily agreed with you if it was about D12 (not all of them together) been working on side projects or trying to do so post Em comeback but you actually said we've been *this close* of getting a D12 project at some point & this can't never be a fact. I mean if you were talking about an official album of course.

Saying that we were *this close* is more of a personal opinion due to all the information around the time. Royce saying we were getting a D12 album, Fuzz actually being signed to Shady as a member of D12, etc. I think there is more than enough there to be able to say "something official was in the works" at least.

There was not even a project done yet so we'd be even close of getting it... not to mention there haven't been enough sessions to even have a batch of songs that could result into shaping an album.
The other things is there were too many creative differences in the group & Mr.Porter said he's leaving the group 'cuz of it.

I didn't really mean we were *this close* to it being released, but *this close* to them starting something and the hype machine being turned on. I bet we would have gotten word on it pretty soon had it not fallen apart, but I will agree with you on the creative difference. Although, I think it's not really fair for you to say "there haven't been enough sessions", since you (and I) really have no idea how much time Em spent with them in studio around the time that the rumblings were happening.

Basically they couldn't even get on the same page if we talk about subject matter or whatever so they couldn't even get to a point of getting into the studio & working on an actual Shady records official album which was never planned to be as all the rest projects that came in that EM post comeback period of time...
We've been very very far away from getting a D12 album post Em comeback & that's a fact... all the rest is small talk.

I think we've been closer than you do, and that's fine, since neither of us can actually know for sure. Considering what has happened, I think it's fair to say that it was at least very heavily considered.

I love D12 & I was the one who brought that it'd be great if Em went full circle with having a D12 album after MMLP2 & I certainly hope for it but realistically this is nearly impossible at this point.

I'd agree with this too, but I think it's more of an issue with a group than with label pressure.

[eviltwin]

I listen to the album every morning and I'm still not getting tired of it.

I cannot understand why some some people don't like it.