Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 NO SNIPPET DISCUSSION

[Shameek]

Eminem better not disappoint this time

[Snakebeast]

Im a big Em fan but the guys on this site really give way for the Stan talk from other hip hop fans.

Recovery went from dope to shit, while Relapse went from weak to dope. Amazing.

It's funny how time can change things.

The main reason why Recovery made such a transformation is that at first, we loved it because for the first time, EMINEM PANDERED TO FANS. He did what his fans wanted and got rid of the accents, and started making serious songs. But then, after the honeymoon ended, we realized our shitty mistake, and figured out that everybody overreacted to Relapse. Well, that's how I see it, anyways.

[4Corners]

Im a big Em fan but the guys on this site really give way for the Stan talk from other hip hop fans.

Recovery went from dope to shit, while Relapse went from weak to dope. Amazing.

It's funny how time can change things.

The main reason why Recovery made such a transformation is that at first, we loved it because for the first time, EMINEM PANDERED TO FANS. He did what his fans wanted and got rid of the accents, and started making serious songs. But then, after the honeymoon ended, we realized our shitty mistake, and figured out that everybody overreacted to Relapse. Well, that's how I see it, anyways.

Recovery's only problem was the style of production on the album, IMO. He fell to in love with that DJ Khalil/Boi-1Da style on the album. The only tracks where I was feeling the production were On Fire, Seduction, Session One, Ridaz, Untitled. Lyrically though Recovery was dope. His flow was on point and he dropped the accents. Em was more apologetic about Relapse than Encore.

Both Encore and Relapse had garbage tracks, both had some dope tracks too. I rate those albums fairly similar, I'm sorry but I honestly believe those are his two worst and he'd probably tell you the same thing. Even still, I rate them as B-/B albums. It's just Em hasn't put it all together since Eminem Show and 8 Mile. Hopefully he can on MMLP2, though I'm skeptical after Berzerk. And I pray to god Survival is a bonus or doesn't make the final cut at all. The verses are solid and pretty good, but the chorus ruins the whole thing, and it's another weak Khalil beat.

Berzerk is alright, nothing to write mother about though. The hook is catchy, for sure. I like the hook. His first verse is pretty solid, though it starts off way better than it finishes. The 2nd verse starts off good, than it goes all of the place, not terribly but yeah. The 3rd started off good too, has it's moments, but he ruins it with that whack toe jam line. Overall, Berzerk is somewhere between his best lead singles, My Name Is/Real Slim Shady/Without Me and his worst, We Made You/Just Lose It/My Band (d12). I'd rate it 7/10 probably.

[Satan]

The only good tracks on Recovery were made for Relapse 2, honestly. CWB, On Fire, Untitled, Almost Famous, Session One, Ridaz, So Bad, etc.

[EmFan2013]

ur posts r starting to annoy me

[Whitefox]

Lyrically though Recovery was dope.

Ok quit playin' with the scissors and shit, and cut the crap

Now you get to watch her leave out the window
Guess that's why they call it window pain


I'm an uncooked slab of beef

[Notalius]

Relapse is better in every aspect. It's not just stans saying that but casual Hip hop fans too. And if you don't agree I'll have to break it down why and then my friend it'll be my first classic on here ~ Or I'm just gonna call embase to prove you wrong.

[4Corners]

And We Made You didn't have some cringe worthy lyrics???

I've finally realized after joining an Eminem stan site, why people in hip hop hate on stans so much.

[Whitefox]

And We Made You didn't have some cringe worthy lyrics???

I've finally realized after joining an Eminem stan site, why people in hip hop hate on stans so much.

We Made You wasnt serious and emotional song though.

[Satan]

To be fair, Relapse had "I BELIEVE I CAN FLY WHILE I PEE ON A GIRL YOU WON'T CATCH ME CSI" and "WOWZERS I JUST MADE A MESS OF MY TROUSERS"

[4Corners]

Relapse is better in every aspect. It's not just stans saying that but casual Hip hop fans too. And if you don't agree I'll have to break it down why and then my friend it'll be my first classic on here ~ Or I'm just gonna call embase to prove you wrong.

Don't know what kind of real hip hop heads you hang with, most Em fans aren't even into hip hop all that much, but nearly anyone in the hip hop community wasn't feeling Relapse. If it didn't have accents, the album would be 100x better.

[4Corners]

Relapse is better in every aspect. It's not just stans saying that but casual Hip hop fans too. And if you don't agree I'll have to break it down why and then my friend it'll be my first classic on here ~ Or I'm just gonna call embase to prove you wrong.

Don't know what kind of real hip hop heads you hang with, most Em fans aren't even into hip hop all that much, but nearly anyone in the hip hop community wasn't feeling Relapse. If it didn't have accents, the album would be 100x better.

[Snakebeast]

Recovery's only problem was the style of production on the album, IMO. He fell to in love with that DJ Khalil/Boi-1Da style on the album.

You're forgetting the hooks. They were mostly terrible.

The only tracks where I was feeling the production were On Fire, Seduction, Session One, Ridaz, Untitled. Lyrically though Recovery was dope. His flow was on point and he dropped the accents. Em was more apologetic about Relapse than Encore.

Flow was on point, I'll give you that. Dropped the accents, great. However, you're forgetting the fact that Em suddenly forgot how to rhyme sometimes (Cinderella Man) or rhymed too much and ended up with a shit of a song (Won't Back Down).
Oh, and let us not forget the main negative. Metaphors, similes, and wordplay. Biggest example of this is Won't Back Down, which is just a gigantic mess of random shit. Recovery sucked DICK in this aspect.

Both Encore and Relapse had garbage tracks, both had some dope tracks too. I rate those albums fairly similar, I'm sorry but I honestly believe those are his two worst and he'd probably tell you the same thing. Even still, I rate them as B-/B albums. It's just Em hasn't put it all together since Eminem Show and 8 Mile. Hopefully he can on MMLP2, though I'm skeptical after Berzerk. And I pray to god Survival is a bonus or doesn't make the final cut at all. The verses are solid and pretty good, but the chorus ruins the whole thing, and it's another weak Khalil beat.

Lol no. How the fuck are they on the same level? Aside from garbage tracks ie. Beautiful and Underground, the whole album fit together fine. Great. Fantastic. Tell me EXACTLY what sucked about Relapse besides the accents (which weren't even that fucking annoying).

Berzerk is alright, nothing to write mother about though. The hook is catchy, for sure. I like the hook. His first verse is pretty solid, though it starts off way better than it finishes. The 2nd verse starts off good, than it goes all of the place, not terribly but yeah. The 3rd started off good too, has it's moments, but he ruins it with that whack toe jam line. Overall, Berzerk is somewhere between his best lead singles, My Name Is/Real Slim Shady/Without Me and his worst, We Made You/Just Lose It/My Band (d12). I'd rate it 7/10 probably.

2nd verse is intentionally bad. Go to Rapgenius to read the lyrics, you'll appreciate it a fuckload more. Yeah, they reach a bit with some of the explanations, but it's still good.

[Notalius]

And We Made You didn't have some cringe worthy lyrics???

I've finally realized after joining an Eminem stan site, why people in hip hop hate on stans so much.

Of course ! WMY has a lof of shitty lines .. that's why it's one of the worst songs .. but I'd take it over Won't back down every single fucking day .. And yeah, we are the biggest stans .. OF COURSE, it's probably the biggest unofficial Em forum, but you can search for opinions on different hip hop boards .. 90% say that relapse is the better album because it is. Recovery has some great songs, no doubt .. almost famous, GTC etc. but Relapse as a whole is just better. Face it.

[4Corners]

And We Made You didn't have some cringe worthy lyrics???

I've finally realized after joining an Eminem stan site, why people in hip hop hate on stans so much.

We Made You wasnt serious and emotional song though.

Right, he had nothing serious on Relapse, aside from Deja Vu and Beauitful. Beautiful was a great track, but theres loads of stans on here saying it sucked.

Stans have got to be the WORST hip hop fans. I'm as big of an Em fan as the next guy, but to defend some of the shit that was Relapse, c'mon. Eminem himself would probably sit down and tell you it was his worst album.