Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

[Elision]

Classic term is stupid.

It means that it will hold up over time. I don't see how that's stupid.

by that logic most albums from the 80's and 90's are not classics

i have no stake in this argument but they aren't

[Elision]

How in the world does Wicked Ways sound like The Eminem Show?

That is the real question here.

well see they both share the same rapper

[Elision]

How in the world does Wicked Ways sound like The Eminem Show?

That is the real question here.

well see they both share the same rapper

Oh yeah how could I have missed that?

get with the program miller

[SG.]

MMLP2 was supposed to be Eminem's MMLP2. Stop comparing albums that aren't alike at all.

[boonim]

MMLP2 was to revisit and "close" certain topics. It does not seem to be about revisiting the sound.

[Coulter]

I actually really like the theory. I don't believe it, but it's cool to think about.

[Notalius]

It means that it will hold up over time. I don't see how that's stupid.

by that logic most albums from the 80's and 90's are not classics

i have no stake in this argument but they aren't

[classthe_king]

MBDTF is an objective classic, you can not like Kanye but to say it's not a classic is stupid. And it's certainly praised much more than MMLP, you'd have to live under a rock (trshady) to think otherwise

[kkaniff]

No such thing as an objective classic.

[Notalius]

No such thing as an objective classic.

[classthe_king]

Yes there is…when an album makes as big of an impact as it did and receives as much universal praise as it did then it's a classic regardless of anyone's personal opinion.

Illmatic is a classic. Enter the 36 Chambers is a classic. Those are objective classics and yes MBDTF can be put in the same sentence as them.

[CanadaPure]

I sometimes feel like Notalius just says things against the collective to be different regardless of what his actual thoughts are.

[Notalius]

I sometimes feel like Notalius just says things against the collective to be different regardless of what his actual thoughts are.

what

why are you feeling this way here ?

[CanadaPure]

I sometimes feel like Notalius just says things against the collective to be different regardless of what his actual thoughts are.

what

why are you feeling this way here ?

Not necessarily here, it's just something I've felt before. And it generally seems to involve threads with Class in them

This is a real conspiracy and I'm going to solve it.

[kkaniff]

That's the thing, there aren't any actual measurable criteria, or boxes that need to be ticked before an album is declared a classic.
MMLP didn't have universal critical acclaim.
GKMC is barely a year old.
Flockaveli didn't really have that much impact.
All an album needs in order to be considered a classic, is enough people saying that it is.
And that isn't objective in any way.
You can't even objectively comment on the quality of any album.
At least, that's what I think.