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Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

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Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Kali » Oct 21st, '14, 02:06

And by this, I mean: My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy was a culmination of all the sounds in Kanye's head at the time, a Fantasy inside of him, constantly changing, and full of beautiful music. The album is notable because it features elements from the different styles that defined Kanye's career, soul, orchestra, technopop, autotune singing, and even future elements, such as, bragadachio, and even some raw lyricism 'Gorgeous'.

My question is this: You know how Eminem was saying that it was more a revisitation than a sequel? Was he trying to revisit his old sounds in different capacities, with a new twist to make his own MBDTF (one of the most praised hip hop albums of all time, second behind Illmatic).

Bad Guy - New Eminem sound (rearranging sentence patterns for ill storytelling)
Parking Lot (skit) - MMLP sound
Rhyme or Reason - 80s sample Rubin sound
So Much Better - Encore sound
Survival - Recovery sound
Legacy - SSLP sound
Asshole - MMLP sound
Berzerk - 80s sample Rubin sound
Rap God - MMLP sound
Brainless - TES sound
Stronger Than I Was - TES sound
The Monster - Recovery sound
So Far... - 80s sample Rubin sound
Love Game - 80s sample Rubin sound
Headlights - New Eminem sound
Evil Twin - MMLP sound
Baby - Relapse sound
Desperation - Recovery sound
Groundhog Day - MMLP sound
Beautiful Pain - Recovery sound
Wicked Ways - TES sound
Don't Front - MMLP sound

Let's count (and determine):
MMLP sound - 6 (MMLP is most critically acclaimed, most memorable era)
Rubin sound - 4 (Rubin was Exec. Prod, and one of MMLP2's points was 80s revisit)
Recovery sound - 4 (Recovery was very popular, and Eminem's last album at this point, sound remains)
TES sound - 3 (Second highest acclaimed album, very popular)
New sound - 2 (Eminem's current direction, which has a strange flow that involves rearranging sentence structure)
SSLP sound - 1 (Eminem's oldest album, hardest to channel, also very acclaimed, fan favorite)
Relapse sound - 1 (Eminem's second most hated album, yet a fan favorite)
Encore sound - 1 (Eminem's most hated album, sometimes rate average, often horrible)

MMLP2 was a revisitation of all of Eminem's sounds, as well as a transition to new ones.
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Mr Change » Oct 21st, '14, 02:22

Or maybe it was just a great album where Em threw everything and the kitchen sink :coffee:
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby runSA » Oct 21st, '14, 02:23

Both albums are great albums for sure but they can't be compared to eachother
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby shadyblogger » Oct 21st, '14, 02:27

Don't think so. He definitely was going for multiple styles/sounds across the album but I don't think he was trying to have each song sound like one of his previous albums.
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Emadyville » Oct 21st, '14, 04:17

doubtful.
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Elision » Oct 21st, '14, 04:19

Kali wrote:MBDTF (one of the most praised hip hop albums of all time, second behind Illmatic).
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby kkaniff » Oct 21st, '14, 05:44

What Elision said.
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Trimss » Oct 21st, '14, 06:20

Elision wrote:
Kali wrote:MBDTF (one of the most praised hip hop albums of all time, second behind Illmatic).
HA HAHA


He's not wrong. In most lists, MBDTF even comes before MMLP.
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby mdemaz » Oct 21st, '14, 06:33

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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Notalius » Oct 21st, '14, 08:52

Trimss wrote:
Elision wrote:
Kali wrote:MBDTF (one of the most praised hip hop albums of all time, second behind Illmatic).
HA HAHA


He's not wrong. In most lists, MBDTF even comes before MMLP.


Not really
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Notalius » Oct 21st, '14, 09:06

True Wiz wrote:MBDTF is a classic though.


it's not

great album but not a classic
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Music_box » Oct 21st, '14, 09:08

Classic term is stupid.
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby Notalius » Oct 21st, '14, 09:20

True Wiz wrote:
Music_box wrote:Classic term is stupid.

It means that it will hold up over time. I don't see how that's stupid.


by that logic most albums from the 80's and 90's are not classics
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby kkaniff » Oct 21st, '14, 10:07

Classic term is stupid.
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Re: Was MMLP2 supposed to be Eminem's "MBDTF"

Postby csw621 » Oct 21st, '14, 15:01

More reaching up in here than a csw thread
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