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Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 15th, '14, 04:19

He went the entirety of SSLP without even using the word "faggot" or "fag" once. On MMLP, he used it several times (forgot the exact count), with roughly half of them as insults to ICP in response to them calling him gay in "Slim Anus." The only time slurs were used in an actual "gay-bashing" context were the sarcastic lines in "Criminal," a context which should have been clear to any non-idiot after the intro. The very point of that song was to make the exact opposite point. He actually hates gays the same way as he is actually going to kill anyone who believes that he's going to kill someone because he said it on a track.

On TES, the few times he used it were in an analytical context, such as White America ("actin like I'm the first rapper to smack a bitch or say, 'faggot?'"), with the exception of using it to insult Moby.

Where's the gay bashing?

Eminem actually bashing gay people outside the context of a disclaimer in the intro denoting sarcasm is a relatively new phenomenon for him...a post-pills phenomenon in which he vaguely remembers controversy involving gays over lyrics.
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby Solace » Nov 15th, '14, 04:22

True Wiz wrote:um, wot?

Seemed like a pretty thorough and understandable post, what's got you confused friend
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby SliK » Nov 15th, '14, 04:45

OP is correct
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby UofLCard » Nov 15th, '14, 05:21

EminemInsider wrote:He went the entirety of SSLP without even using the word "faggot" or "fag" once.


That's a fact that I've never taken notice of before.
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby slims » Nov 15th, '14, 05:22

UofLCard wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:He went the entirety of SSLP without even using the word "faggot" or "fag" once.


That's a fact that I've never taken notice of before.
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby TheBoss123 » Nov 15th, '14, 06:04

Agreed with OP.

I don't know what else to add, other than people are just overly sensitive. I don't want society to move in a direction where you cant use certain words because people take them so seriously. If it was genuine hate speech thats one thing, but in the context couldnt be more clear that hes fucking around, at this point I think he just uses the word "faggot" as a big fuck you to people who are still this upset about it.
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby SliK » Nov 15th, '14, 06:36

StayWideAwake wrote:
EminemInsider wrote:Eminem actually bashing gay people outside the context of a disclaimer in the intro denoting sarcasm is a relatively new phenomenon for him...a post-pills phenomenon in which he vaguely remembers controversy involving gays over lyrics.

Considering how many times he's talked about how all of it is tongue-in-cheek and sarcastic in songs and interviews by now it would be pretty ridiculous if he was still ensuring everyone understood the context these days.

It was more explicitly clear in some of the earlier uses because there was actually a curiosity as to whether or not he meant it. Most of the non-idiots already understand what was in question back then so he doesn't have to care about letting people know what he means by it today.

You're missing the point.

The line "my fillets are smoking weed, yeah faggot the stakes are high!" He is ONLY using that word because it's kind of what he thinks people expect. The word faggot in that context adds NOTHING to the point he's making. He's saying it just for the sake of adding a homophobic slur.

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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby SliK » Nov 15th, '14, 06:49

True Wiz wrote:I'm going to have to side with Based on this.

Based is either trolling or very unintelligent.
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby SliK » Nov 15th, '14, 06:58

True Wiz wrote:
SliK wrote:
True Wiz wrote:I'm going to have to side with Based on this.

Based is either trolling or very unintelligent.

He did bring up some valid points.

With lyrics like:

That'll stab you in the head, whether you're a fag or lez
Or the homosex, hermaph or a trans-a-vest
Pants or dress, hate fags? the answer's "yes"


The LGBT community did have a right to protest.

"Shit half the shit I say I just make it up to make you mad"

Eminem changed the world in a major way, I don't care if his right to free speech bothered people.
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby SliK » Nov 15th, '14, 07:18

I'm not even reading your posts bro
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby SliK » Nov 15th, '14, 08:07

He has always been far more misogynistic than homophobic. Get over it nerds
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 15th, '14, 08:10

True Wiz wrote:
SliK wrote:
True Wiz wrote:I'm going to have to side with Based on this.

Based is either trolling or very unintelligent.

He did bring up some valid points.

With lyrics like:

That'll stab you in the head, whether you're a fag or lez
Or the homosex, hermaph or a trans-a-vest
Pants or dress, hate fags? the answer's "yes"


The LGBT community did have a right to protest.


Not when they come immediately after,

"A lot of people ask me stupid fucking questions. A lot of people think that what I say on record, or what I talk about on a record, that I actually do in real life, or that I believe in it. Or if I say that I'm gonna kill someone, that I'm actually gonna do it, or that I believe in it. Well shit...if you believe that, then I'll kill you."

Otherwise, get ready to protest George Carlin, too.

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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby DetroitSkills » Nov 15th, '14, 08:13

SliK wrote:I'm not even reading any of these posts bro

Boo hoo. He said faggot.
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby Whitefox » Nov 15th, '14, 08:34

Basedshady is a faggot nigga? or should i say afroamerican gay?
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Re: Love the myth that prime Eminem was a gay basher

Postby kkaniff » Nov 15th, '14, 09:02

BasedShady, for the first time I've seen since like 2011, actually has a point.
It is, of course, doesn't make the outrage sensible since the LGBT community and media are doing a horrible job of convincing anybody that they have a moral high ground with their almost as spiteful bashing of Eminem, their retarded choice of mascots (the Azazelia chick), and the hypocrisy with which they choose what to be offended about.
Nevadaless, they are justified in raising a stink, which is what Eminem wanted in the first place so... LGBT 0 Eminem 110 million.
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