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Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby Aftermathers » Apr 3rd, '12, 18:17

Outta all the Rappers mentioned as greats Jay Z lacks the most Substance for over 10 Albums he has pretty much Rapped about mostly clishe topics like selling drugs, money and materalisim on ever album from Reasonable Doubt to Blueprint 3. He also lacks emotion and the ability to move the listeners with his Music that good Rappers are known for.


The thing with Jay Z also is if you heard 1 Song of his you pretty much heard them all that is how 1 dimensional he is in Subject Matter and style.


He also is known to use Singers on majority of his Songs who do the Hooks for him he never been a Rapper that had the ability to craft Hooks it's quite easy to pay a famous Singer to feature and record Hooks for your Songs where as good Artists at times can craft their own Hooks.
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby _Steven_ » Apr 3rd, '12, 18:20

nah jay-z is dope, i know hes overrated but not the most overrated, pac is for sure. or rick ross. fuck rick ross.
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby Kill You » Apr 3rd, '12, 18:23

Here we go again...Jay-Z isn't overrated that much, I feel he is just slightly overrated. He's still dope though. Much better than other overrated artists.
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby Almostlity » Apr 3rd, '12, 18:32

Not really.
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby Aftermathers » Apr 3rd, '12, 18:48

So people don't have an issue with Jay Z's lack of Substance and him predominantly Rapping about Money, Cars, Clothes?
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby BILI » Apr 3rd, '12, 19:07

There are many overrated rappers and Jay-Z is one of them...not the most tho,not even close. This guy made Reasonable Doubt and The Blueprint therefore he`s dope, its his last few albums that are tedious (except for few songs).
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby K Reidy » Apr 3rd, '12, 19:17

Lil Wayne is the most overrated IMO. Jay-Z at least makes sense with his songs... some things Wayne says are just like... wtf why??
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby Aftermathers » Apr 3rd, '12, 19:44

K Reidy wrote:Lil Wayne is the most overrated IMO. Jay-Z at least makes sense with his songs... some things Wayne says are just like... wtf why??



But Jay Z and Wayne pretty much Rap about exactly the same Topics
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby BILI » Apr 3rd, '12, 19:49

Aftermathers wrote:
K Reidy wrote:Lil Wayne is the most overrated IMO. Jay-Z at least makes sense with his songs... some things Wayne says are just like... wtf why??



But Jay Z and Wayne pretty much Rap about exactly the same Topics

Not really, Jay-Z did much more concept songs, plus when they rap about similar topics Jay-Z is way more lyrical and not as annoying.

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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby Mathers » Apr 3rd, '12, 20:12

Wayne's more overrated, atleast Jays made great albums.
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby lakewaking » Apr 3rd, '12, 20:36

Revolutionary wrote:He's overrated yeah, but definitely not the most.
He's a great rapper, his music surprisingly puts me in a good mood

Rappers like Pac, Wayne and B.I.G could be considered the most overrated.


yeah cuz Pac albums were sooo garbage, go ahead act like he doesnt have the best catalog from top to bottom

the man has been dead for 16 years and is still wining polls, so his songs mustve done something.. dukes career was 5 yrs long and sold 100 million albums... he was by faar the harderst working rapper ever, pushed out albums in 3 days, did double albums in 10 days... duke came out of the pen, fist place he went to after he ate, was the fuckin studio. did ambitions as a ridah and i aint mad atcha in under an hour.. OVERRATED

rappers like Pac..smh, hes ur favorite rappers favorite rapper.
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby lakewaking » Apr 3rd, '12, 21:57

Revolutionary wrote:
lakewaking wrote:
Revolutionary wrote:He's overrated yeah, but definitely not the most.
He's a great rapper, his music surprisingly puts me in a good mood

Rappers like Pac, Wayne and B.I.G could be considered the most overrated.


yeah cuz Pac albums were sooo garbage, go ahead act like he doesnt have the best catalog from top to bottom

the man has been dead for 16 years and is still wining polls, so his songs mustve done something.. dukes career was 5 yrs long and sold 100 million albums... he was by faar the harderst working rapper ever, pushed out albums in 3 days, did double albums in 10 days... duke came out of the pen, fist place he went to after he ate, was the fuckin studio. did ambitions as a ridah and i aint mad atcha in under an hour.. OVERRATED

rappers like Pac..smh, hes ur favorite rappers favorite rapper.


You misunderstood me. I like Pac, he's a great rapper.
But the praise he's getting for his lyricism is stupid.
Go search old threads where I was defending Pac and how he's one of the best rappers.

Hs influence is by far the biggest on this planet. But his lyrics are as amazing as other rappers.
Like I would place him as the best motivational and influential rapper ever but I won't list him under my favorite artists. I can understand why some do put him, but facts are facts. His lyrical game is only good, not 'wow' worthy. And lyrics and rhymes are important in rap as well as being influential.

Opinions are opinions, Pac is not garbage and only ignorant people think so. But he's not the greatest, at least not to me.


fair enough.. if ppl wanna talk overrated,. id say kanye, wayne, drake and 50 cent at one point was prolly the most overrated rapper ever
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby flyingmonkey10 » Apr 3rd, '12, 22:12

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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby EminemBase » Apr 3rd, '12, 22:14

I think he probably is yes.

Although, as much as Jay-Z is insanely overrated in every respect... he still has a spark and a real character and, he's maturing into something kind of adult...

and he still has good songs.

But, I don't think I can call him more overrated than Lil Wayne who, is just awful. Lil Wayne I think has to be 'thee' most overrated due to the fact he's actually BAD / TERRIBLE, lyrically and artistically, and just makes shit fucking songs.

Where as, Pac (overrated) and Jay say, they still do deserve recognition.
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Re: Is Jay Z the most overrated Rapper ever?

Postby CrashBand » Apr 3rd, '12, 23:18

^I agree to some extent.

The thing with Lil Wayne though, is he is not overrated by 'hip hop heads'. In fact he gets a lot of hate.

Whereas Jay-Z, Pac and Biggie are commonly in Hip Hop lovers top five or even GOAT.

So basically, Wayne gets (underserved) praise from people who generally aren't major Hip Hop fans compared to someone like Jay who gets insanely overrated by people who are (self proclaimed) Hip Hop purists
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