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The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

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Re: The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

Postby EminemBase » Jul 10th, '13, 13:43

Pretty corny...

He's one of the fast spitting rappers that just doesn't sound good doing anything else...

It's like, I've heard Joel Ortiz spit normally and he sounds boring and corny. They don't craft rap well it seems unless they're spitting complex rhymes for the sake of spitting.
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Re: The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

Postby Mr Change » Jul 10th, '13, 15:58

He's a straight up musician okay. Don't let your opinion on the guys' personality cloud your view of him musically.
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Re: The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

Postby Willy » Jul 11th, '13, 02:20

Jokerr can definitely write though... I mean:

"The Jokerr's for those fiending for flows
I'm hot as it gets and cold as it goes, when I'm in Phoenix it snows,
the time-span I spend clutching a pen's so grim my right hand's humongous, have you seen it it's gross'"

"I'm not only the coldest rapper, but I'll throw a cotton-ball at you hard enough to knock you over-backwards"

"Put me up against a cheetah, I can sprint faster,
threaten me and I'll collapse in intense laughter,
I don't flinch bastards, you could hit me with a
wrecking ball - I wouldn't move a thousandth of an inch backwards"

"I used to entertain people in such innocent ways
Now I juggle four-foot ninja blades and pin-less grenades
Drinking kerosene and breathing flames
I sneeze at people and casually say excuse me while they scream in pain
You get indited for corporate stock extortions
I get indicted for unlawfully breathing life into rotten corpses"

"Hey yo, I have a dream and Dr. King wouldn’t be proud of me,
I wanna enslave the whole planet and make ‘em bow to me
Fuck your skin color, ethnicity, nationality,
Gender, age, race, sexual preference or locality.

I’m tryin to get my third Reich on, but not with just the Jews,
Slave labor for everybody I don’t pick and choose
Bitch I’m trying to kick my shoes up
While two huge boob sluts feed me plates of grapes on a balcony

But that ain’t, likely to be happening any time soon,
So your ass will have to do while my plan gets fine tuned
You'll wake in a giant electrified barbed wire lined room
With a witch beatin your ass with a flying broom"

"..and when the Ruger comes out, i'll stick it under your chin so hard it'll pin your tongue to the roof of your mouth"

And these are just a small sampling... he's one of the dopest writers out right now. Listen to this and if you aren't convinced the Jokerr can write/rap his ass off then I dunno what to tell you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6pdgsL2U4o

Not only that... he's a phenomenal producer.. Check this out, especially the buildup at the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jA0-rmYL9k

He's an artist in every sense of the word.. he has complete control of his music and puts out music he believes in. It's okay to not like a song but to say he can't craft rap well is ludicrous.
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Re: The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

Postby SliK » Jul 11th, '13, 08:57

Shitty track.
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Re: The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

Postby EminemBase » Jul 11th, '13, 09:13

Geno wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Pretty corny...

He's one of the fast spitting rappers that just doesn't sound good doing anything else...

It's like, I've heard Joel Ortiz spit normally and he sounds boring and corny. They don't craft rap well it seems unless they're spitting complex rhymes for the sake of spitting.

He can sing really well. And if you listen to the lyrics, it's very well written.



Also, this is a good funny track.



I like him a lot. He's versatile. You never know what he'll sound like. And he produces all the beats, and can at the very least (to my knowledge) play the drums. He's talented.


Yeah but it sounds corny.

His fast shit sounds amazing but this track just sounds like... Nickleback meets ICP meets Hopsin; it just sounds corny and bad, and broad lmao; like really fake attempt at emotion with a corny gruff voice etc. which isn't natural or authentic, and weak lyrics...

But his fast shit sounds amazing.

Also... that "Slap Happy" song... I think it's really badly written... lazy rhymes and ideas.

Like I said, some only sound good with their specific style. He reminds me of Joel in that respect.
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Re: The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

Postby Willy » Jul 11th, '13, 12:07

EminemBase wrote:
Geno wrote:
EminemBase wrote:Pretty corny...

He's one of the fast spitting rappers that just doesn't sound good doing anything else...

It's like, I've heard Joel Ortiz spit normally and he sounds boring and corny. They don't craft rap well it seems unless they're spitting complex rhymes for the sake of spitting.

He can sing really well. And if you listen to the lyrics, it's very well written.



Also, this is a good funny track.



I like him a lot. He's versatile. You never know what he'll sound like. And he produces all the beats, and can at the very least (to my knowledge) play the drums. He's talented.


Yeah but it sounds corny.

His fast shit sounds amazing but this track just sounds like... Nickleback meets ICP meets Hopsin; it just sounds corny and bad, and broad lmao; like really fake attempt at emotion with a corny gruff voice etc. which isn't natural or authentic, and weak lyrics...

But his fast shit sounds amazing.

Also... that "Slap Happy" song... I think it's really badly written... lazy rhymes and ideas.

Like I said, some only sound good with their specific style. He reminds me of Joel in that respect.


You're making broad generalizations... Listen to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6pdgsL2U4o
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWTQlGJvQQ
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHyyCcebJm4

You can't listen to those songs and say that he can't 'craft rap'. You may not like him because he defies your preconceived notions of what rap is supposed to be, or because you think he's gimmicky, but the fact of the matter is he can rap his ass off.

And produce.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jA0-rmYL9k&t=2m32s

And sing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiqsWAAvZPg&t=0m58s

You can't get around it - the Double R is a beast.
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Re: The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

Postby EminemBase » Jul 11th, '13, 13:08

^ Nope. Read what I'm saying fam.

I go out of my way to mention multiple times in general his rap is amazing, and nope I have no pre-conceived notions of what rap should be and welcome change and left-field shit.

'regular rap' or notions of 'what rap should be' bores me, that leads to stagnation.

I said the songs posted are corny and bad, not that he's not capable of good music or that he's a bad rapper; I've gone out of my way to praise him in the past - doesn't mean every single song he makes is good though, and the ones posted here, are bad in my books. But I think he's a good rapper and musician.
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Re: The Jokerr - Long Dark Road (NEW)

Postby Willy » Jul 11th, '13, 13:17

I don't have a problem with not liking a song I was just under the impression you didn't think he could write or could only rap fast.
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