YG - My Nigga (Remix) ft Lil Wayne, Rich Homie, Meek Mill,

[Solace]

I actually hoped that you would know that I was joking with that vid.

So you literally shrugged aside Notalius with a joke? If we're discussing this I'd expect everything to be serious. Otherwise, what's the point?

If any it will just decline because people get tired of hearing it EVERYWHERE especially when a song already blew the fuck up.

Well to me it seems that this remix got over 600k views in a day. From yesterday to today, the original My Nigga wouldn't have gotten another 600k views. So this new remix keeps the momentum going.

[cement]

nicki's outfit was a bit disappointing, was hoping for a good view of her ass

[Solace]

Well you two were on about whether the song is catchy. You pointed out the bias in him saying it's catchy as if it was a fact. And he basically said "Well it seems like a million other people agree with me". And your response was just "Oh well this horrible song also has a lot of views too". My point is that you never really fleshed out your reason why the song sucks when Notalius said all it needs to not suck is to be catchy because that's all its purpose is.

[Solace]

None of my posts have at all been about the original. ._.

But okay then let's take it to this remix in particular. I explained why this remix is not overdone (i.e., all songs, and remixes by extension, in history have been overdone. Can't avoid it.), I explained why this remix is not unnecessary (i.e., momentary increase in popularity because of a re-release with even more popular artists), and I said that originality, especially in the case of a remix, doesn't really matter. In any case, why would unoriginality mean it's bad (or it sucks)? Lack of originality doesn't necessarily mean something has to be bad...

And if the remix's only intentions were to be upbeat, fun, and catchy, all qualities it retains from the original, then how could it suck? Like I've brought up before, intentions are important. That's like saying a toaster sucks because it only toasts your bread, and doesn't sharpen your pencils. If it does what it's intended to, it can't really be anything less than perfect or ideal. Wayne didn't come in to showcase talent, we know that for sure.

[Notalius]

My name was dropped more in this thread than any artist involved with this remix. I won.

[Solace]

None of my posts have at all been about the original. ._.

But okay then let's take it to this remix in particular. I explained why this remix is not overdone (i.e., all songs, and remixes by extension, in history have been overdone. Can't avoid it.), I explained why this song is not unnecessary (i.e., momentary increase in popularity because of a re-release with even more popular artists), and I said that originality doesn't really matter. In any case, why would unoriginality mean it's bad (or it sucks)? Lack of originality doesn't necessarily mean something has to be bad...

And if the remix's only intentions were to be upbeat, fun, and catchy, all qualities it retains from the original, then how could it suck? Like I've brought up before, the intentions are important. That's like saying a toaster sucks because it only toasts your bread, and doesn't sharpen your pencils. If it does what it's intended to, it can't really be anything less than perfect or ideal. Wayne didn't come in to showcase talent, we know that for sure.

So according to you a person that may like the original version of a song can't express that he or she does not like the remixed version ? I expressed my opinion regarding the remix but unfortunately I am not possibly able to feel that way because the original is 'confirmed' to be catchy?

Are you going to actually respond to what I said or answer my questions with your questions? You told me this song was unnecessary, overdone, and unoriginal. I'd like to hear your thoughts on what I said about that.

But okay then let's take it to this remix in particular. I explained why this remix is not overdone (i.e., all songs, and remixes by extension, in history have been overdone. Can't avoid it.), I explained why this song is not unnecessary (i.e., momentary increase in popularity because of a re-release with even more popular artists), and I said that originality doesn't really matter. In any case, why would unoriginality mean it's bad (or it sucks)? Lack of originality doesn't necessarily mean something has to be bad...

You also said the song sucks and I said if something's intentions are fulfilled then it can't possibly suck. It did its job perfectly.

And if the remix's only intentions were to be upbeat, fun, and catchy, all qualities it retains from the original, then how could it suck? Like I've brought up before, the intentions are important. That's like saying a toaster sucks because it only toasts your bread, and doesn't sharpen your pencils. If it does what it's intended to, it can't really be anything less than perfect or ideal. Wayne didn't come in to showcase talent, we know that for sure

Thoughts?

My name was dropped more in this thread than any artist involved with this remix. I won.

So that must be like, 3 times?

[Solace]

Sure but I really don't see what you're trying to do here. I came in this thread, listened to the song and stated ( later backed up ) my opinion on the remix. For some reason you felt the need to start an argument with me in a hostile manner and apparently claiming that my personal opinion is wrong and not possible.

If you think I'm being hostile you're just being sensitive You called me a "fucking retard"

If you didn't want to continue this argument then there was no need to, you could have ignored me and I wouldn't have continued. I don't give a shit about these songs, but since we've started up and gotten to this point obviously I'll continue until an agreement (or an agree-to-disagree).

It can suck, that's the whole point. If I were to make my own remix of this and I would scream the word 'Faggot baguette' in the same flow ( whilst having fun recording) the whole song with the exception of the hook it would still have fulfilled the intentions of the song I mean after all it's still catchy ( The beat and hook are the only catchy things about the song ), I had fun and maybe my version will even push the song a little further! According to your logic my remix would not suck.

Putting most logics to their extreme can make them appear unreasonable.

I feel that the remix verses are on the same playing field as the original verses. There is no distinct drop in quality for me when I listen and compare the songs. The original vs. the remix is not Lose Yourself vs. Fack. I never said the quality of the verses is to be hidden under the rug. I said if the intentions were for them to be catchy and promotive, and they succeeded in doing so, then it’d be impossible to claim the song “sucks”. That's my logic.

However, if the intention of your example verse is also to be catchy, I think it could easily be argued (or assumed) that it wouldn't succeed. Although repetition is catchy, not every instance (yours included) is. It would be completely retarded (screaming "Faggot baguette" for 3+ minutes), unappealing to anyone’s ears (so there would also be a significant quality drop), and in that case the remix wouldn't retain the qualities of the original that made it successful. It would not be catchy, and then it would suck, even following my logic.

[Solace]

Hey, if you took offense to that then by all means I apologize, I didn't type that out with intentions of genuinely upsetting you.