2pac Death Or Alive (Theories)

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Top 20 Reasons Why 2Pac Is Alive
Below are the top 20 reasons why 2Pac is still alive. This is one of the original conspiracy lists posted on the Internet in 1997. I have heard over a hundred reasons why 2Pac is alive but I decided on the top 20 and posted them here. To be fair, I've posted additional information in blue underneath several of the top 20 reasons, even if it suggests that he is in fact dead. If you think 2Pac is dead or there's no kind of scandal in his death, prepare to be convinced otherwise!

1. 2Pac began calling himself Makaveli. Machiavelli was an Italian war strategist who advocated faking one's death to fool their enemies. 2Pac was a fan of Machiavelli and had read his books. Perhaps 2Pac is taking his advice?
(But that is not all Machiavelli did... Nicolo Machiavelli was a political, military theorist, historian, playwright, diplomat, and military planner. He is well known today. Some of his works are "The Prince" (1513), and The Art of War (1521). NOTE: Bone Thugs 'N' Harmony's new double album which features 2Pac is called "The Art Of War." Coincedence Or Not???)
2. 2Pac was cremated the day after he died. Since when does some one get cremated the day after a murder? There was no autopsy. Plus, no one can ask to dig up his grave like they wanted to do with Elvis and like they did with Abraham Lincoln.
(An autopsy picture "leaked" onto the Internet, click here to take a look. However, this could easily be a fake picture.)
3. 2Pac has completed several movies and new albums and keeps on appearing on new artist's albums. (Many of the unheard songs 2Pac has completed are unreleased and not on any albums) Why would he do so much at one time??? With so many people upset about 2Pac's death, literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...
(Yet 2Pac had big plans for 'Makaveli Records'. This may be why he's completed so many songs. Makaveli Records is the the new record company 2Pac planned on doing with "Tha Outlaw Immortalz". He was leaving Death Row Records. Suge Knight could have killed 2Pac so they could get all the money. 2Pac's mother is currently suing Death Row Records for this money.)
4. In a 1994 interview with Tupac, he said before he went to prison that if he was ever sent to prison when he came out he would be worse than before. He was. He also said when he came out it would be like he was reborn. Was he speaking literally? He already died and he was worse when he came out of jail, plus Tupac switched his rapping name from 2Pac to Makaveli, that could be considered a rebirth, all that's left is a physical rebirth (A sighting) and so far he's already completed more than half of this prophecy.
5. The cover of 2Pac's latest album, Makaveli, features 2Pac posed as Jesus Christ... Could he be planning a resurrection?
(Death Row Records probably did this for the publicity. It just adds to the whole 2Pac alive stuff which has been getting the album more sales.)
6. Las Vegas is a payoff city, meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take. That means doctors, press, lawyers, etc.
(This works both ways... The payoff city Las Vegas could be a factor in either 2Pac faking his death OR Suge Knight killing him.)
7. The producer on the new Makaveli album is simply "SIMON." This was the apostle who helped Jesus carry the cross and one of the first to witness his resurrection. Could Suge be SIMON?
8. There are many numerological coincidences. Tupac was gunned down exactly seven months after All Eyez On Me was released. The number seven keeps coming up too. He was shot on September 7th and survived on 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th, and died the 13th. This could explain the title of his new album.... "The Don Killuminati: The 7 day theory." 2pac was 25. His age adds up to 7 (2 + 5). Even his time of death, 4:03, adds up to 7 (4 + 0 + 3). Also, on track five on the Makaveli album the voice at the begining says "And if the Lord returns in the coming seven days, then we'll see ya next time." He even talks about the number 7 on his album! There are more 'coincidences' too.. The newest is on his brand new double album entitled "R U Still Down?". This album was released on November 25th. 2 + 5 = 7. The 7 day theory continues! What's with this????
9. Inside the cover of 2Pac's newest album, it reads "Exit: 2pac, Enter: Makaveli" as if 2pac has died and Makaveli born. There is also that statement by 2Pac saying when he came out it would be like he was reborn. (Refer to #4)
10. 2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death .... 2Pac dies in that video, then a new video came out under the name "Makaveli". Its just like 2Pac died in "I Ain't Mad At Cha", and Makaveli was born in "Toss It Up". Exit 2Pac Enter: Makaveli. It all makes sense.

11. In the video "Toss It Up", 2Pac is supposedly wearing some Penny Hardaway sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!!!! Also, some say in the video "Live & Die In LA" when 2Pac jumps in the car you see that he is wearing some Michael Jordan sneakers which were not available at the time of his death!
(If 2pac is dead, then his double is doing his new videos... So, that explains the shoes!)
12. In Tupac's song "Life of an Outlaw" on the album The 7 Day Theory, he says "All for the street fame on how to be managed, 6 months in advance to what we plotted, approved to go on swole and now I got it"-Life Of An Outlaw. This implies that Tupac planned his "death" in advance and now he is enjoying the success of his plan.
13. 2Pac always wore a bulletproof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time.. why not?
(I've heard Suge Knight was caught on surveilance cameras at the fight telling 2Pac to take off the vest 'cause it was hot in there. If this is true, why would Suge Knight not want 2Pac wearing his vest???)
14. The memorial services that were open to the public were canceled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta.
(This could be in the request of family or friends. It's quite possible.)
15. 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
16. The white Cadillac containing the assailants was never found... How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?
17. Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert. How come there was no helicopter chase? If some one were to rob a casino, the LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?
18. A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occurred close to the release of his album Doggystyle which made Snoop appear more "real" and showed that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platinum. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.
19. Suge said he drove 2Pac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was 2Pac hit? In addition to all this .. there are conflicting stories claiming that Quincy Jone's daughter was in the back of the car.. and then she wasn't.. what's the deal for real?
20. Have you seen the video of the song "Smile" by Scarface and Makaveli?? I have heard it's not 2Pac in that video. It is the look-alike from Ohio. (That's why '2Pac' never looks at the camera) The video starts out showing a car just like the one 2Pac got shot in, and the car of course has bullet holes in it! You then hear garbled words and then they show 2Pac (Makaveli) up posing as Jesus Christ again! That's Twice! Once on the album & now in this video! ?????????

Top 10 Reasons Why Suge Killed 2Pac
Below is the new top 10 reasons why Suge Knight killed 2Pac. Our infamous top 20 reasons why 2Pac is alive is very popular on the web. It has influenced many to beleive 2Pac is alive. But in my theory I state that either 2Pac is alive OR Suge killed him. So, here's the new list to prove Suge killed him! I suggest printing out this page so you can show everyone! If you think there's no kind of scandal in 2Pac's death, prepare to be convinced otherwise!!!

1. 2Pac was about to leave Death Row Records. His album entitled "Don Killuminati : The 7 Day Theory" was the last album he had to do for Death Row Records. He was now going to work on his new record company called "Makaveli Records". Makaveli Records is the the new record company 2Pac planned on doing with "Tha Outlaw Immortalz".
(In 1995, Suge Knight bailed 2Pac out of jail with the contract of 2Pac doing a double album and single album for Death Row Records. His contract was done and that's why he was suddently leaving Death Row Records.)
2. Basicly in a follow-up from # 1... With 2Pac gone, Death Row Records wasn't going to make any money off 2Pac. So, if they killed 2Pac ; everything related to him would get them a whole lot of cash! And, they would now have all of his unreleased songs which they would release under their lable on soundtracks, compilation albums and possibly even new 2Pac albums. Plus, it gets rid of the competition they'd recieve from Makaveli Records.

3. Death Row Records was very uncooperative with the police after 2Pac's death. They hardly told the police anything! In many occasions, the police and newsreporters couldn't even find people on Death Row Records to question. Here's another interesting fact... ABC interviewed Suge Knight after the shooting of 2Pac. He was asked, "If you knew who killed 2Pac, would you tell the police?". Suge then replied "Absolutly Not".

4. If you know about "Makaveli Records", you know about The Outlaw Immortalz. They are the rappers who would be working with 2Pac on "Makaveli Records". Anywayz, one of the members who went by the name "kadafi" was reportedly going to cooperate with the police. Well, soon after the death of 2Pac he turns up dead. Hmmmm....
5. Have you noticed how Death Row Records now goes by the name "New & Untouchable". What's with that?? This name started being used when the Makaveli album came out... Why are they so suddeny untouchable???
6. Death Row Records could have also done a lot of this stuff you're about that's proving 2Pac is Alive. They could be doing this stuff for publicity. EX : They could have made up that whole 7 Day Theory stuff. (Refer to Alive List). And, I'm almost sure they put 2Pac on the cover of the Makaveli album posed as Jesus Christ for publicity.

7. Of course lets not forget the mysterious "Suge Shot Him". If you turn the volume way up...... In the first 3 seconds of the Makaveli album your hear someone say "Suge Shot Him". You hear the voice right before the first bell. (Listen Carefully) I wonder about this though... Is it someone from Death Row Records who knew what was going on with Suge Knight killing him or was it just some publicity stunt for more album sales????

8. Okay... Lets talk about that night at the Tyson fight when 2Pac was shot... You've all probably heard about Orlando Anderson and how Suge got in a fight and was caught on survalance cameras. So, I won't get into that. Anywayz... I've heard a "rumor". I've heard Suge Knight was caught on surveilance cameras at the fight telling 2Pac to take off the vest 'cause it was hot in there. If this is true, why would Suge Knight not want 2Pac wearing his vest???

9. What about what Suge Knight did after 2Pac was shot? Well, as you know 2Pac was shot 5 times and Suge's head was grazed by a bullet. I've heard 2Pac said to Suge, "Don't worry about me. You're shot in the head". Anywayz, as 2Pac lost 22 ounces of blood Suge drove 2Pac to the hospital as fast as he could... When at the hospital Suge said he had a long conversation with 2Pac. But how?? Would you be talking after being shot 5 times and heavily bleeding... What's with that???
10. For # 10 I'll talk about the alive thoery. First of all, I've found a lot more reasons that prove 2Pac is alive. A lot of these could be publicity stunts or just coincedences. But there's more evidence that point to him being alive. It's really tough to make a desision. You gotta really think.... Would 2Pac spend thousands & thousands of dollars in faking his death to get all the eyez off him?? Also, would Suge Knight actually kill 2Pac for money?? Take the life of his "friend" for money??? You really gotta think. Click Here For My Complete Theory
NOTE : As for Suge Knight having possesion of all 2pac's unheard songs... 2Pac's mother sued Death Row Records and won the lawsuit. She now has possesion of the tapes. Death Row Records can no longer make money off 2pac's music. All of 2Pac's unreleased singles will now be featured on new albums under the label "Amaru Records / Jive Records".
Reasons why 2PAC is still alive !!!
1. There were never any pictures released of Tupac in the hospital.
2. The video "I ain't Mad at Cha" was released a few days after his death. The video shows Tupac as an angel in heaven.
3. In the song "Life Goes On", Tupac raps about his own funeral.
4. The driver of the car in which Tupac was riding, Suge Knight (the exectutive producer of Death Row Records), didn't show up for questioning about the shooting.
5. A shooting involving Snoop Doggy Dogg occured close to the release of his album Doggystyle which made Snoop appear more "real" and showed that he really was a gangsta. The shooting gave him respect because everyone that bought his album believed what he was talking about. Within one week of its release, Doggystyle went platnium. Snoop is signed to the same label as Tupac which is Death Row Records.
6. In interviews prior to the shooting, Tupac talked about how he wanted to stop rapping and being a gangsta and get out of the limelight. What is the only way Tupac could completly escape the media spotlight ??? (Answer: if the public thought he was dead.)
7. There are no suspects for the shooting.
8. Press wasn't going to be allowed at the funeral, but then the funeral was cancelled for unknown reasons.
9. Tupac always wore a bulletproof vest, no matter where he went. Surely he would have worn it to a very public event like a Tyson fight.
10. In most of his songs he talks about being buried, so why was he allegedly creamated the day after he "died"? And since when do they creamate someone the day after death?
11. There is nothing in the new album that says TUPAC RIP 1971-1996. Doesn't it make sense to include something like that in the first album after his "death"?

Puplic Enemy's Chuck D reasons, why Tupac's still alive !!!!
1. 2Pac died on Friday the 13th...
2. Las Vegas is a payoff City..meaning all sorts of folks have been known to be on the take..that means doctors, press, lawyers etc.
3. The white cadillac containing the assailants..was never found...How could this be when Vegas is in the middle of a desert?
4. There's a small Black community on the North side of town..This strip is only about 8 blocks long.. The attackers were Black.. Where did they go? Where did they hide?
5. The white cadillac containing the gunmen passes a entourage of 2Pac's boys..many of them body guards... No one gives chase..and there are no witness...There were no witnesses on the street... How come? Why not?
6. The name of 2Pac's next album is Machiavelli.. He was an Italian war strategist who faked his death to fool his enemies... Perhaps 2Pac is doing the same thing..
7. The cover of his next album..has 2Pac looking like Jesus Christ...Could he be planning a resurrection?
8. Las Vegas is in the middle of the desert.. How come there was no helicopter chase... If some one was to rob a casino.. The LVPD would've chased you down with some helicopters.. . How come this didn't happen with 2Pac shooting?
9. 2Pac was cremeated the day after he died... Since when does someone get creamated the day after a murder... There was no autospy
10. There were no ballistic tests... At least we haven't heard about them....
11. Las Vegas is still very much a mob town.. No one gets killed on the strip... You have to pretty much get permission in order for something like this to happen.. Who was calling the shots on this one?
12. 2Pac's vehicle got shot 12 times and Suge didn't get hit once.. He was 'grazed' by a bullet.. Why did 2Pac get shot all those times and Suge not get hit?
13. Suge said he drove 2Pac to the hospital and they had a coherent conversation? How bad was 2Pac hit? In addition to all this .. there are conflicting stories claiming that Quincy Jone's daughter was in the backof the car.. and then she wasn't.. what's the deal for real?
14. 2Pac has completed 2 movies and 3 lps that have yet to be realsed.. With so many people upset about 2Pac's death..literally anything connected with him is bound to net a whole lot of cash...
15. Suge Knight and 2Pac are the only two music industry people on that high a profile with enough balls to pull off a stunt like faking death...
16. 2Pac's video 'I Ain't Mad At Ya' foretold his death ....
17. 2Pac always wore a bullet proof vest but for some strange reason he didn't wear one this time.. why not?
18. The memorial services that were open to the public were cancelled in both Los Angeles and Atlanta...

I for myself, don't belive in all those rumors, even I have to admitthat some assumptions sound to be evident.

[JMG]

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^spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaam-alert!!!!


umm i guess this topic gets closed...the mods dont like them 2pac is alive topics
*runs*

[Shads]

this is getting very old, and very annoying. how many time have we had a "reasons for 2pac alive" threads.

we dont need anotherone.

lock this shit.

[Sleepy]

ya ur right their is pretty good points

But i think pac is dead

ans close this topic

[Tash8]

why close the thread it's still an interesting read, who cares if it's bullshit or not.

[°[~CHR!$~]°]

cuz some weeks ago...we had a thread like that...but mods closed them...
and some felt annoyed....*points at shads*

anywayz....yea its an intressting read fo me too...

[Shads]

why close the thread it's still an interesting read, who cares if it's bullshit or not.

because theres like 40 fucking threads of the same shit "2 pace alive"

if you must discuss this vey pointless and impossible subject, then do it in the previous threads already created. not going and make a new one.

[darealslimzlady]

thats interesting read, but yeah i read sumthin similar on wikipedia hehe but yeah thnks for that, i seen sumthin similar in this board b4 but whaetever...

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he is DEAD get over it

[yoshi]

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he is DEAD get over it

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! he's not and you're just fuckin a 2pac hater, who doesn't want him to ressurect and release 10 new albums about how it feels to be a rotten corpse 6 feet deep.

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he is DEAD get over it

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! he's not and you're just fuckin a 2pac hater, who doesn't want him to ressurect and release 10 new albums about how it feels to be a rotten corpse 6 feet deep.

it would be a intresting concept i must say

[Nu Syd]

hes gone,let him rest and give up on these bullshit theorys

[howie1360]

they do show good arguements but i dont believe this bs. hes gone

[AspirinE]

Im sorry, but enough of this shit, this is the hip hop section were u discuss music, not conspiracy theories about rapper that:


-fooled the world and paying off 1000's of people (to keep his death secret, and for numerous fake autopsies and photos, not to mention his funeral while being on verge of being broke)

-planted 7's in every god damn thing he touched and had cooperation from god himself on the "coincidences" of his birthdates and other kinds of dates of numbers were the mystique number was planted once again ...

-that doesnt want to be found but keeps recording wispers for new shitty records that are fucked up by shitty producers and features.


Its been 10 years now.