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Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Sep 2nd, '07, 11:54

Music consumers readily accept that the singer of a catchy pop song may not have written it. But they may not know that this practice extends to other seemingly more authentic musical genres like hip-hop, which Chuck D of Public Enemy famously referred to as CNN for black people. "We hold rappers to a different standard than pop singers," says Chuck Creekmur, co-founder of AllHipHop.com. "With hip-hop we want to have that personal connection. We want them to tell us how they feel."

With such high expectations for our rap idols to "keep it real," it makes sense that some try to hide the fact that they aren't writing their own lyrics. To do so, they can hire ghostwriters to pen their tunes. Ghostwriters are usually rappers themselves who write lyrics for other performers without getting songwriting credit—although they often get paid. Even some of the most respected names in the biz have composed other rappers' rhymes: Nas co-wrote several tracks off Will Smith's mega-selling Big Willie Style (including "Just Cruisin'"), the gritty Pharoahe Monch wrote for Diddy's album Just Press Play, and Jay-Z has written several of Dr. Dre's raps (including, notably, "Still D.R.E.").

Why would a rapper spend so much of his heart and soul writing lyrics for a top-40 record he'll never get credit for? "Sometimes, it's just such a good deal that you can't turn it away," says Skillz, a respected hip-hop hired hand whose song "Ghostwriter" includes bleeped-out names of rappers he's written for. (Lyrics to a live, uncensored version are available online and name-drop Mase, Foxy Brown, and Diddy, among others.) As Skillz points out, if you're a struggling MC, and Will Smith comes to you with his checkbook, it's hard to say no.

Ghostwriting is also a good way to collect street cred. While the practice is not widely discussed by the general public, a ghostwriter who has a strong reputation with well-respected producers may be able to secure future, credited projects through those contacts. After writing verses for Diddy ("Shake Ya Tailfeather") and ghostwriting for Smith and Dre, Smitty signed with Clive Davis's J Records and will soon be releasing a debut album featuring in-demand producers Timbaland and Kanye West. (Diddy, Smith, and Dr. Dre didn't respond to Gelf's inquiries for this article).

Many in the community also view ghostwriting as a further opportunity for artistic expression. "I just found it as another outlet to be creative," Kel Spencer, who co-wrote such Will Smith hits as "Switch," says. "I don't look at it as being undervalued. I'm not ghostwriting to get famous; I'm doing it to attach myself to a project I like."

Skillz adds, "I like to put myself in a different mindset and step out of the box I'm in." And like any field of entertainment where image is involved, writing behind the scenes is a far more dependable career path than being in the spotlight. "I'm not gonna be rapping when I'm 40," Skillz says, "but I can still be writing songs 'til I'm 80."

But for many rappers out there, ghostwriting is considered a last resort to turn to only after the MC has failed as a performer—whether it's due to a lack of charisma, bad luck, or, in the case of former N.W.A. ghostwriter D.O.C., a vocal-cord injury. "A lot of rappers don't catch a break," Creekmur says. "They never had the opportunity to make it, and are forced to ghostwrite."

Some big-shot rappers simply are too invested in other ventures to write their own lyrics. "They are a business, and they need to oversee the product as it comes off the assembly line, as opposed to doing a lot of the grinding themselves," says Davey D, a hip-hop historian and journalist. By hiring a ghostwriter, a mogul is outsourcing part of his job to someone who he feels can do it better. "Dre recognizes that he isn't a lyricist," Creekmur says. With rappers like that, "you hire the best to do what they do."

Beyond the question of "who's writing for whom" is the writing process itself, which varies by artist. According to Smitty and Spencer, most of their projects are completely collaborative. "[Will Smith] will record a song and have me pick it apart," Spencer says, "asking me what it needs for radio." Of course, statements about mega-moguls working with writers on projects should be taken with a grain of salt. Folks like Dr. Dre and Will Smith want to receive songwriting credit so as to maintain artistic credibility, and their songwriters want to continue to get paid large sums of money to work with such legends. Therefore, it is in the best interest of both parties to say that the process is collaborative, even when it's not.

The rules of ghostwriting compensation are remarkably inconsistent. Some contracts involve a simple lump sum upfront, while others may also include a cut of record sales. Akil from Jurassic 5, who has never ghostwritten himself but knows people in the industry who have, says that the compensation need not be spelled out in contract, nor money-based at all. "It may be benefits, material objects, or just being down with somebody," he says. Even elite ghostwriters cap out at $60,000 to $70,000 for a song—a pretty penny, but a mere fraction of what many songs make in profits.

But bitching about your terms of service as a ghostwriter is not a good idea. "Most artists are not going to want to make it known that they didn't write [their lyrics]," Spencer says. Breaking this trust can have disastrous consequences; in 1998, Dr. Dre and Eminem severed their ties with Royce da 5'9'' after Royce's manager revealed that he had ghostwritten a few of Dre's songs for 2001.

Royce's ghostwriting also bring to light another ethical question: Should rappers hire writers for songs that are inherently personal to the artist? Royce wrote the bulk of Dr. Dre's "The Message," which dealt with the murder of Dre's brother, and Sauce Money wrote much of "I'll Be Missing You," a tribute to Puff Daddy's late friend Notorious B.I.G. (That song, incidentally, sold over three million copies; Sauce Money received $1,000 for his efforts.) The rappers interviewed do not seem particularly troubled by these events. "Diddy was a part of ["I'll Be Missing You"], but of course he'll bring in top-notch writers to make it perfect," Smitty says. Jurassic 5's Akil says that the ends usually justify the means: "If you deliver it, and the point comes across, and I feel that emotion, then the job was done."






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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby pawel » Sep 2nd, '07, 13:25

nice read for sure bro ^^ where'd you get this from?
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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby J Won » Sep 2nd, '07, 15:47

Aw man, now I gotta throw away Dr. Dre's "Still D.R.E." now that I know it was ghostwritten. :(
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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Sep 2nd, '07, 18:09

pawel wrote:nice read for sure bro ^^ where'd you get this from?


seen it on rapbasment
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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby Tornado » Sep 2nd, '07, 18:26

hopefully these ghostwriters can get the repect they deserve and hopefully convince these rappers to stop acting like they're buisness and get them to concentrate on their lyrics and albums. Be intresting to know what people think

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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby patwivo » Sep 2nd, '07, 19:19

thats bullshit how puff daddy had "i'll be missing you" ghostwritten
"You see me, I see through you. You say fuck me I say fuck you. You don't love me, I don't love you. I rise above and I say fuck you bitch!"
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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby J Won » Sep 2nd, '07, 23:44

patwivo wrote:thats bullshit how puff daddy had "i'll be missing you" ghostwritten


I've never liked Puffy as an MC anyway, I always knew he rapped, but he got money from endorsements and clothing.
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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby -[Zach]- » Sep 3rd, '07, 01:49

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:Jay-Z has written several of Dr. Dre's raps (including, notably, "Still D.R.E.").


:o that shocked the shit outta me. i did not kno that.

very interesting read.

and bout diddy, he suckz at rappin so it don't matter wat kinda lyrics he got.
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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby oOSporkOo » Sep 3rd, '07, 08:01

I guess all the dre riders who dissed on jay-z would feel a tad foolish to this haha
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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby Nu Syd » Sep 3rd, '07, 08:24

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Re: Hip Hop GhostWriters [Great Read]

Postby Shads » Sep 5th, '07, 18:53

Brilliant Post Bar,

A Fucking Good Read

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