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Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby dR3 » Jun 17th, '11, 00:07



Pretty interesting. Props to One Mic for posting these guys' channel, they're nice and their show is fresh and unique.
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby FreeSpeech » Jun 17th, '11, 01:17

I didn't finish the vid, but Lil B actually was nice in that cypher:


That said, he's not a genius, but he isn't as retarded as he seems. I've watched his interviews, and he seems to be normally intelligent. I think he's just found a clever marketing ploy. I think he realized that while he's a mediocre/decent rapper, he'll most likely never blow up through conventional means. Gotta hand it to him, he found a way to build hype and will probably make more dough now than he would have if he just sticked to rapping and doing what everyone else was. I don't think he's making some profound satirical statement on the current state of rap, he's just getting his name out the only way he can.
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby dR3 » Jun 17th, '11, 01:22

FreeSpeech wrote:I didn't finish the vid, but Lil B actually was nice in that cypher:


That said, he's not a genius, but he isn't as retarded as he seems. I've watched his interviews, and he seems to be normally intelligent. I think he's just found a clever marketing ploy. I think he realized that while he's a mediocre/decent rapper, he'll most likely never blow up through conventional means. Gotta hand it to him, he found a way to build hype and will probably make more dough now than he would have if he just sticked to rapping and doing what everyone else was. I don't think he's making some profound satirical statement on the current state of rap, he's just getting his name out the only way he can.

Whoa, his voice sounds totally different and his lyrics are actually nice. Shitttt... :o
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby DƎRDYPK » Jun 17th, '11, 01:26

that verse is from Exhibit Based. :8)



edit: this gotta be a top 10 BG track
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby BILI » Jun 17th, '11, 01:26

He`s both tbh...I listened to like 200 of his songs...did a lot of research on him and I can tell you that he`ll do some crazy shit really soon,maybe even with that "I`m Gay" album since its controversial to begin with.
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby EminemBase » Jun 17th, '11, 01:30

Well actually - upon sight and listening to him I thought he was garbage. I haven't listened to him properly just one song and a freestyle.

But, I read an interview with him on CNN about calling his album I'm Gay and honestly, he sounds pretty intelligent and he has a bit of a real artist in him.

Which I was very surprised by. As, he obviously doesn't look or seem the type on the surface. But some of the things he said and, his aims, were admirable and different. And calling his album that was a nice little provocative idea and not a random gimmick either. It's an especially daring thing to do as a rapper, in such a macho genre, with some very genuine homophobic artists within it due to it being so macho and about respect, and being a man etc. so, more than any other genre I'd say.

I'd expect somebody like Lady GaGa to do something like it. Which, isn't a slight on him or her. I don't particularly like her music or know much about her but it's clear that she's a real artist that commits to vision and aims for originality.

So goes to show you really shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Unless it says The Bible on the front, in which case: you may like to keep that one by the shitter in case you run out of toilet paper.
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby FreeSpeech » Jun 17th, '11, 01:34

dR3 wrote:Whoa, his voice sounds totally different and his lyrics are actually nice. Shitttt... :o

Yeah. I did some research (watching Youtube vids) to see what his deal is. That grill messes up his voice (and he does it on purpose), it gives him that stupid lisp that makes him sound like he's slobbering. He doesn't have it in in the XXL vid I posted. You can tell he's just messing around, that was actually a decent verse with fairly nice multis, and at the end he changes his voice back and says "I'm the rawest rapper!" I forget the title, but he did one serious, written soung w/o the grill recently and it was decent.

If you watch old The Pack vids, he's normal. Not good, but normal. He has a grill in this one too, but hos voice is normal...
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby momentsgolden » Jun 17th, '11, 01:37

EminemBase wrote:So goes to show you really shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Unless it says The Bible on the front, in which case: you may like to keep that one by the shitter in case you run out of toilet paper.


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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby FreeSpeech » Jun 17th, '11, 01:38

EminemBase wrote: Unless it says The Bible on the front, in which case: you may like to keep that one by the shitter in case you run out of toilet paper.

Ooooh you're cool. What a rebel.
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby BILI » Jun 17th, '11, 01:42

momentsgolden wrote:
EminemBase wrote:So goes to show you really shouldn't judge a book by its cover. Unless it says The Bible on the front, in which case: you may like to keep that one by the shitter in case you run out of toilet paper.


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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby EminemBase » Jun 17th, '11, 01:57

FreeSpeech wrote:
EminemBase wrote: Unless it says The Bible on the front, in which case: you may like to keep that one by the shitter in case you run out of toilet paper.

Ooooh you're cool. What a rebel.


I thought we were okay again. Now you wanna be back on bad terms just because you dislike a jokey comment I made about an ancient book of mythology?
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby FreeSpeech » Jun 17th, '11, 02:03

EminemBase wrote:I thought we were okay again. Now you wanna be back on bad terms just because you dislike a comment I made about The Bible... ?

I think I casually said sorry for your TShirt thread because you made a good post? I don't care, I'm not on "terms " with any of you. If one of my favorite members says something I don't agree with, I'll call them on it and insult them like I would anyone else.

If someone I typically don't like says something I agree with, I'll say it. I'm not friends/enemies with any of you, this isn't real life.

You said the Bible's only good for wiping shit on it. I'm no saint, but yes I take offense to that and you sound like a jerkoff. I'm not a fan of everything organized religion does, but I'm not arrogant enough to say BS like that.
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby dR3 » Jun 17th, '11, 02:04

Come on now, don't start again. :(
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby FreeSpeech » Jun 17th, '11, 02:07

dR3 wrote:Come on now, don't start again. :(

LOL I'm not about to debate this idiot on the merits of religion on an Eminem fan site, don't worry.
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Re: Lil B, genius or gimmick?

Postby EminemBase » Jun 17th, '11, 02:28

FreeSpeech wrote:You said the Bible's only good for wiping shit on it. I'm no saint, but yes I take offense to that and you sound like a jerkoff. I'm not a fan of everything organized religion does, but I'm not arrogant enough to say BS like that.


You've proven you're not as smart as you act.

You've fallen into the predictable trap of thinking religion deserves more respect than anything else.

Would you take the same offence if I said a certain CD was only good for a coaster? or if a certain political standpoint was nonsensical? I seriously doubt it.

Religion has demanded more respect, historically, as it's strangled and bullied the masses and public opinion. It's despicable in so many ways and deserves not one fucking ounce of respect. Teaching children - innocent children (who are literally born to listen to adults) that believing things without evidence is not only good but a VIRTUE and something to be proud of is dangerous, damaging and irrational.

That element aside, it's also caused nothing but mass-murder and misery since the beginning of time due to it being a PATH to extremism. So before you say 'oh that's just some' no - it's not the people, religion makes people that way. As it's circular and self-destructive. Asserting that something is true because it's true, because - it just is, can only lead to irrational behavior if programmed into somebody's brain, contradicting reality and logic.

You think you should respect it more due to the fact vulnerable or brainwashed people believe in god and because it's concerning life after death, which is a sensitive and uncomfortable issue for most as instinctively - you don't want to die. So it's as if you feel you need to 'protect' people's wishful thinking. And I couldn't give a flying fuck who disagrees with that, as it's true. It's a psychological crutch and - if it did no harm, fair enough, but it's an ugly, horrid, ancient, delusional construct that slows and perverts mankind and progression in so many twisted and shocking ways.

You think you should be able to critique or speak about people's taste in music or anything else anyway you like but that religion deserves a free pass and it's 'offensive' to say ANYTHING other than positive things about it. That's totally fucking ridiculous, it's madness - it's childish and irrespective of whether you believe in god or not - that comment is jokey and take it on the fucking chin.

If anybody believes in it that much it shouldn't matter what I or anybody say. As you know I'm going to hell and am wrong right? so why would a silly comment matter to you. It only proves that deep deep down inside most people truly can't believe it themselves which is why these comments or ANY questioning gets to them so much. Hence the need for constant mass affirmation, to keep 'convincing' one another that it's true (church). As logically, your brain denies it. Since it can't be true.

If religious people kept their beliefs to themselves I wouldn't have a problem. But that's the thing, they don't. They teach their childre... sorry, FORCE their children to believe it, just because they do - warping their minds with nonsense and then they grow up and automatically teach their children.

Questioning things is healthy, humour is healthy. Wrapping your beliefs up in cotton wool and saying nobody is allowed to question, joke about or contradict them is unhealthy and pathetic.

I for example 'believe' in Evolution. Now, it's in fact technically as much a scientific fact as any we know. But, we say it's a theory, scientifically, as we only have back-evidence and can see the after-effects of course. But... if somebody said they would wipe their ass with The Origin of Species - would you jump to my defence in the same way?

I seriously fucking doubt it. And no, it's not different. You've just been conditioned to think it is, as that's been religion's trick of never being questioned or proven wrong. By being bigoted and forceful.

So, I'm glad we're on no terms. Eat a dick, fucking moron.
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