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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby Block » Feb 24th, '11, 06:25

Wait.. Hold on.. You guys once thought vinnie paz was ever good? Lolololol

He's the epitome of one dimensional. And since when had it been cool to make up for your shitty voice by yelling like a constipated babboon about shit you've never experienced, over mediocre production??
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby classthe_king » Feb 25th, '11, 21:18

k block wrote:Wait.. Hold on.. You guys once thought vinnie paz was ever good? Lolololol

He's the epitome of one dimensional. And since when had it been cool to make up for your shitty voice by yelling like a constipated babboon about shit you've never experienced, over mediocre production??


Okay...I can not agree with anything you just said.

Vinnie Paz in his prime was one of the best rappers of all time
Stoupe is the best producer of all time
Servants In Heaven, Kings In Hell was the best album of all time.
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby Block » Feb 25th, '11, 22:54

classthe_king wrote:
k block wrote:Wait.. Hold on.. You guys once thought vinnie paz was ever good? Lolololol

He's the epitome of one dimensional. And since when had it been cool to make up for your shitty voice by yelling like a constipated babboon about shit you've never experienced, over mediocre production??


Okay...I can not agree with anything you just said.

Vinnie Paz in his prime was one of the most one dimensional rappers of all time
Stoupe bit his style of production from 90's underground producers
Servants In Heaven, Kings In Hell was the most one dimensional album of all time.


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Vinnie paz is severely overrated. He was average in the early 2000's, as far as lyricism was concerned, but still highly one dimensional. He basically screams the same things over and over in every song. The while revolutionary rap bit is tired. And the screaming? God it's annoying as hell. He had no emotion in his voice or his songs. He's off beat alot of times and ritually disregards amy emotional aspect an instrumental possesses. By that, I mean he has the same tone over every instrumental. A 'sad' instrumental should not be screamed over. Also, his production sounds the same in EVERY song. The while ' underground' drums and silly looped samples. It's all just tired.

I can't stand him. I respect what done, but his music has nooooo substance.
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby classthe_king » Feb 25th, '11, 23:31

His music has no substance? So Razorblade Salvation, Black Winter Day, Shadow Business, Uncommon Valor, Trail of Lies, Death Messiah and The Great Collapse have no substance?

And saying he screams over all his tracks is just ignorant. Not even half of his songs are him yelling, IF you can evan call that yelling? He doesn't yell on any songs IMO. I love his delivery, it's so rugged yet so smooth.

And he is no way one dimensional, he can do songs just showing off his rhyming, do great concept songs, do lyrical songs, do deep and emotional songs, and do his IT conspiracy songs.

His flow is perfect and his voice is filled with emotion when it needs to be. Stating that Razorblade Salvation has no emotion is just stupid.

And who cares where Stoupe got his inspiration from? He took anything from the 90's to another level. No one can make beats like him or as well as him.

I usually agree with you but here you are just wong.
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby Block » Feb 26th, '11, 00:32

classthe_king wrote:His music has no substance? So Razorblade Salvation, Black Winter Day, Shadow Business, Uncommon Valor, Trail of Lies, Death Messiah and The Great Collapse have no substance?

And saying he screams over all his tracks is just ignorant. Not even half of his songs are him yelling, IF you can evan call that yelling? He doesn't yell on any songs IMO. I love his delivery, it's so rugged yet so smooth.

And he is no way one dimensional, he can do songs just showing off his rhyming, do great concept songs, do lyrical songs, do deep and emotional songs, and do his IT conspiracy songs.

His flow is perfect and his voice is filled with emotion when it needs to be. Stating that Razorblade Salvation has no emotion is just stupid.

And who cares where Stoupe got his inspiration from? He took anything from the 90's to another level. No one can make beats like him or as well as him.

I usually agree with you but here you are just wong.


Every single one of his songs has the same delivery. You can't argue against that, because it's fact. He has never once changed his delivery, rhyme schemes or content. That = one dimensional. His flow is far from perfect. It's one of the most choppy flows I've ever heard. And it's basic in structure.. It never changes. Ever.
As far as his production? Every single beat sounds the same. The same sampled eerie loops over looped drums. That's not talented, bro.

Going back to flow: I don't want to make this personal or for this to seem like a personal attack, but until you, yourself acquire the knowledge and skills to flow differently then you do at this point in time, you most likely won't see what I see. I didn't see things this way before I learned what I know now.

Vinnie paz has never evolved as an artist. He always sounds the same. Everything about him is a parody of itself. I just can't stand it.

I spose we can agree to disagree. I'm not trying to change your opinion, but mine definitely will never change. And you should know that I'm one of the least ignorant people on this forum when it comes to music and different artists. So I'd have no reason to 'hate' on anything or anyone. I just see too much repetition from him and no growth.
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby classthe_king » Feb 26th, '11, 04:25

You're telling me he didn't evolve from

to

?
It doesn't even sound like the same artist.

I don't really care if he doesn't change his delivery or rhyme schemes cause they're both A+ material and I never get tired of it.
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby Block » Feb 26th, '11, 04:37

How is a choppy flow and forced screaming A+? Man, I give up.
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby classthe_king » Feb 26th, '11, 04:39

It's not forced or choppy whatsoever
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby Block » Feb 26th, '11, 04:42

classthe_king wrote:It's not forced or choppy whatsoever


Lol. if you say so, dude. He's terrible.
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Re: Heavy Metal Kings - Children of God

Postby classthe_king » Feb 26th, '11, 04:43

Maybe on his first two albums but he mastered the craft on SIH,KIH and that's indisputable.
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