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Re: Juicy

Postby dead prez » Mar 10th, '11, 22:31

stillmatic wrote:They're clearly different type of songs.

It's like comparing say motivational songs like Eminem's 'Beautiful' and 'Lose Yourself'. Just because it has a similar message, it doesn't mean they're similar overall.


They execute them differently and are obviously meant for different types of listening like you said Juicy being a party track while I got is you being a heartfelt track, but they have enough similarities to be compared. Ghost just goes more in depth with his past than Biggie.
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Re: Juicy

Postby dead prez » Mar 11th, '11, 03:35

Btw, I've always liked this version better tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3SMJyT9PKY
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Re: Juicy

Postby Fa-Q » Mar 11th, '11, 06:36

I never was a fan of this song.

But to answer your question, no my radio hasnt played it but they probably played it by you because its around his anniversary of his death
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Re: Juicy

Postby ShadyNarkoticz » Mar 11th, '11, 06:55

Get a grip, motherfucker.
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Re: Juicy

Postby Manly Moose » Mar 11th, '11, 22:03

dead prez wrote:Btw, I've always liked this version better tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3SMJyT9PKY


It seems like everyone on the comments page is jumping on this version so they can start hating on Puffy. To me, this is just a watered down version of the album version. Puffy is a bad rapper but I love what he did with Biggie. He could make a song commercial and dope at the same time.
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Re: Juicy

Postby Sam. » Mar 11th, '11, 22:12

dead prez wrote:Btw, I've always liked this version better tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3SMJyT9PKY

dope mix nice beat ,but the censor :facepalm
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Re: Juicy

Postby dead prez » Mar 11th, '11, 23:02

Manly Moose wrote:
dead prez wrote:Btw, I've always liked this version better tbh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3SMJyT9PKY


It seems like everyone on the comments page is jumping on this version so they can start hating on Puffy. To me, this is just a watered down version of the album version. Puffy is a bad rapper but I love what he did with Biggie. He could make a song commercial and dope at the same time.


Puffy is hated for a lot of reasons and rightfully so, and I'm not one to needlessly hate on mainstream figureheads either, but I do agree he did Big justice on R2D.
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Re: Juicy

Postby stillmatic » Mar 11th, '11, 23:49

Puffy was a snake from the start.

Everyone knows this. Biggie's friendship with him is also exaggerated. There wasn't a big relationship between the two, it was more of a business relationship, especially from Biggie's perspective. You just have to read and see interviews with people who were close to the two at the time to understand this, especially CJ who has no problems with Puff, but has said that Biggie wasn't really high up on Puff.

But during that era, for 1-2 songs that needed to be hits, for a two-three year period, Puff was king. I don't know how much of the production he did with The Hittmen, but at the end of the day, they made it work well.
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Re: Juicy

Postby Manly Moose » Mar 12th, '11, 01:26

stillmatic wrote:Puffy was a snake from the start.

Everyone knows this. Biggie's friendship with him is also exaggerated. There wasn't a big relationship between the two, it was more of a business relationship, especially from Biggie's perspective. You just have to read and see interviews with people who were close to the two at the time to understand this, especially CJ who has no problems with Puff, but has said that Biggie wasn't really high up on Puff.

But during that era, for 1-2 songs that needed to be hits, for a two-three year period, Puff was king. I don't know how much of the production he did with The Hittmen, but at the end of the day, they made it work well.


I know Puffy gets hate for good reasons, but I absolutely love it when a good song has commercial potential. Puffs job on both R2D and LAD was great. Not really sure how involved he was, but considering most songs had 4-6 samples (At least on R2D) I assume he was very involved.

Besides, his talking on the songs was badass.
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Re: Juicy

Postby stillmatic » Mar 12th, '11, 02:57

Yep, won't get any arguments from me. Puffy did a great job on those albums, and it would be silly to say they would just as good without him on it.

It's what Puffy's done since Biggie that really makes him a douchebag.

When he wants to work though, and I mean really work, he can still create some magic. The beat to 'Roc Boys' is his most recent example.
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Re: Juicy

Postby mdemaz » Mar 15th, '11, 00:38

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No, Australia isn't filled with faggots like America is.

'8 Mile' must have something to do with it..
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