Time to accept that East Coast Hip Hop is dead.

[Hiphopdane]

The four best albums this year are all made by NY rappers:

1: Pharoahe Monch - W.A.R.
2: Saigon - The greatest story never told
3: Raekwon - Shaolin vs Wu-Tang
4: Talib Kweli - Gutter Rainbows

Nas, Rugged man, KRS-One ("boom bip") and Masta Ace are coming out with albums this year too.

[stillmatic]

Who cares about new artists.

Lets see how many of these new artists stay relevant in a few years time and can have a long lasting legacy.

New York emcees don't just come and go, when they make it, they are there for the long run.

It's a cycle. NY will have another dominant figure soon, and he'll be around for 10+ years.

[stillmatic]

Also if the OP wants to make things so simple, then a new NY rapper bodies all of those "new rappers" in terms of popularity and relevance - Nicki Minaj.

I'd love to end the argument there and say New York wins again, but it's not so simple.

Nicki Minaj can say she's representing Queens, but her style is not New York. Whether her music is good or bad, her style is not New York. She fits the bill for a typical Southern rapper. The same way, it's so silly to say Jay Elec or J.Cole are Southern rappers, they barely ever talk about their states and it is quite evident that their musical learning didn't come from Nawlins and Nth. Carolina respectively. If they started a new trend in the South then they would qualify, but they barely ever acknowledge the South, it's so evident that their music is heavily NY influenced.

[KillahBee]

The South, for me, definitely has produced the most interest hip hop music for the last 12-13 years, butt man, NOTHING in rap music will ever match the quality of the East Coast between '88-'97

Is it dead? Nah, its just lacking the innovation of the South and the West right now, and even at that a lot of recent Southern hip hop has been influenced by Blueprint 3

What innovation does the South have? The South is nothing but pure garbage. It's the primary reason as to why there is such a decline in the quality of music.

The thing with NY music is we care deeply for it, unlike the South and to a lesser extent the West, but that's only their new generation, the "nu-West" could give a shit about their roots and those who have paved the way for them. That's what sets New York apart, everyone who makes it in NY, they have a great respect for the culture of hip hop that New York has.

These new motherfuckers are nothing more than a fad, they're hot now but will go down as a blip on the overall hip hop history radar. Form is temporary but class is permanent, and a new hip hop legend will enter soon, and you can guarantee that he'll be from New York.

Haha relax man, I'm not talking about the stereotypical Southern rapper, I'm talking about Clipse making coke rap sound cool again for the 1st time since Cuban Linx, I'm talking about Outkast - everybody from Kanye to B.O.B has been influenced by them, I'm talking about UGK recently dropping the illest double album since Wu Tang Forever, I'm talking about The Neptunes dominating the music scene from 2000-2006 with an original sound, Im talking about Freddie Gibbs being the only worth while "gangsta" rapper since 50, Big K.R.I.T coming through, Cunninlynguists being the most consistent hip hop group since their debut - none of those guys are a flash in the pan and to call Southern hip hop "garbage" is pure ignorance - yeah maybe the autotune/watered down era was started by the South, but as Masta Ace said; "respect to Nas, hip hop is dead and New York is holding the smoking gun, we used to lead the way, and we follw behind, we making down South music like we outta our minds"

See certain Southern artists might have started the trend, but everybody follwed and thats the problem, hell Jiggas last album had a song called Death of Autotune on an album littered with the shit, Rae's last album had autoutne, Red's last album had autotune, last Blackout! album = autotune, actually NONE (bar a few hooks on the last Clipse album) of the Southern rappers I mentioned have ever used the methods which you'd label the South "garbage" over, whereas NY legends have

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Time to accept that you are a dumb ass nikka.

[Satire]

Oh and isn't the same guy that made this gem?

He also tried to convince everyone that Drake was way better than Hopsin once. He NEVER posts other than to make controversial claims and then never post in the topic again, leaving everyone to argue. I'm sure he's someone's alt attempting really hard to troll.

[Master Chief]

who's the biggest rapper on the planet right now? Hov

no

Yes.

[Master Chief]

Did you even read his post?

Excluding the great white American hope, who's the biggest rapper on the planet right now? Hov.

[Satire]

Did you even read his post?

Excluding the great white American hope, who's the biggest rapper on the planet right now? Hov.

[stillmatic]

I like how the OP has a tendency to make shit threads, shit points and then run away.

I'd rather debate with the redneck trio this place has to offer, at least they stand their hillbilly ground.

[Satire]

I like how the OP has a tendency to make shit threads, shit points and then run away.

I'd rather debate with the redneck trio this place has to offer, at least they stand their hillbilly ground.

Also

Oh and isn't the same guy that made this gem?

He also tried to convince everyone that Drake was way better than Hopsin once. He NEVER posts other than to make controversial claims and then never post in the topic again, leaving everyone to argue. I'm sure he's someone's alt attempting really hard to troll.

[°[~CHR!$~]°]

Nefu Da Don....from Brooklyn
watch out for the kid....

if you wanna hear more of him i made a thread about him in Undergound Section
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