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[ThomasJ]

You know, you can't use the opinion cop-out on everything.

I use it constantly because you seem to be upset with my comments.
It's like, anytime i share my input on a certain something you come and make a useless/pointless response.
I don't hate Kanye, i just think that his albums don't deserve to be called "Hip-Hop Classics".
Musically yeah, he's better than most but that's not the most important thing in a *Rap* record.

lol

I don't know why you would think that, but anyway...

Seeing how hip-hop is a genre of MUSIC, having good (or in Kanye's case, amazing) production is just as important as having good lyrics.
Quite frankly, people don't give him enough credit for his mic skills.

Penitentiary chances, the devil dances
and eventually answers to the call of Autumn
all of them fallin' for the love of ballin'
got caught with 30 rocks, the cop looked like Alec Baldwin
inter century anthems based off inner city tantrums
based off the way we was branded
face it, Jerome get more time than Brandon
and at the airport they check all through my bag and tell me that it's random
but we stay winning, this week has been a bad massage
I need a happy ending and a new beginning
and a new fitted and some job opportunities that's lucrative
This the real world, homie, school finished
they done stole your dreams, you dunno who did it
I treat the cash the way the government treats AIDS
I won't be satisfied til all my niggas get it, get it?

Good Morning, this ain't Vietnam still
People lose hands, legs, arms for real
Little was known of Sierra Leone
And how it connect to the diamonds we own
When I speak of Diamonds in this song
I ain't talkin' bout the ones that be glowin'
I'm talkin' bout Rocafella, my home, my chain
These ain't conflict diamonds,is they Jacob? don't lie to me mayne
See, a part of me sayin' keep shinin',
How? when I know of the blood diamonds
Though it's thousands of miles away
Sierra Leone connect to what we go through today
Over here, its a drug trade, we die from drugs
Over there, they die from what we buy from drugs
The diamonds, the chains, the bracelets, the charmses
I thought my Jesus Piece was so harmless
'til I seen a picture of a shorty armless
And here's the conflict
It's in a black person's soul to rock that gold
Spend ya whole life tryna get that ice
On a polo rugby it look so nice
How could somethin' so wrong make me feel so right, right?
'fore I beat myself up like Ike
You could still throw ya Rocafella diamond tonight

Fuck SNL and the whole cast
Tell them Yeezy said they can kiss my whole ass
More specifically they can kiss my ass hole
I'm an asshole? You niggas got jokes!
You short minded niggas, thoughts is Napoleon
My furs is Mongolian, my ice brought the goalies in
I embody every characteristic of the egotistic
he knows, he so fuckin' gifted
I just needed time alone, with my own thoughts
Got treasures in my mind but couldn't open up my own vault
My child-like creativity, purity and honesty is honestly being crowded by these grown thoughts
Reality is catching up with me, taking my inner child I'm fighting for custody
With these responsibilities that they entrust in me
As I look down at my diamond crush to piece thinking

[Devil'sAdvocate]

yo revo,you should chill with the Ye slander son,before the stanye's attack yo ass B,me included.

[Trimss]

MBDTF is a classic IMO, 808's is very good as a non-rap album, I Love Lasers, though BME EP is a solid EP nothing classic

Recovery > MBDTF.

MBDTF = 80 minutes of dope producing, and 15 minutes of Kanye's voice.

[ThomasJ]

MBDTF is a classic IMO, 808's is very good as a non-rap album, I Love Lasers, though BME EP is a solid EP nothing classic

Recovery > MBDTF.

MBDTF = 80 minutes of dope producing, and 15 minutes of Kanye's voice.

My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy received general acclaim from music critics.
At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album received an average score of 94, based on 42 reviews, which indicates "universal acclaim".

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Upon its release, Recovery received positive reviews from most music critics.
At Metacritic, which assigns a normalized rating out of 100 to reviews from mainstream critics, the album received an average score of 63, based on 28 reviews, which indicates "generally favorable reviews".

[Trimss]

^ Ehm, so? It's a good, even great album but it's also the most overrated album in the whole world.
I enjoyed College Dropout, Late Registration and Graduation more.
MBDTF isn't a classic though. Near classic, okay. But not a classic.

I wish Em could do a whole collab album with Kanye, but not the rapper, the producer. Now that would've been dope.

[ThomasJ]

^ Ehm, so? It's a good, even great album but it's also the most overrated album in the whole world.
I enjoyed College Dropout, Late Registration and Graduation more.
MBDTF isn't a classic though. Near classic, okay. But not a classic.

I wish Em could do a whole collab album with Kanye, but not the rapper, the producer. Now that would've been dope.

So you're saying Recovery is a classic? lol

That was cheap from you TJ.
Critics don't mean shit.
Hell, if i wanted to go by critics then Thank Me Later is better than MMLP!

Nope.

[Trimss]

^ No. Recovery is just better than MBDTF. I can understand everyone calling MBDTF a great album, even a near classic. But it's not.

And yeah, Thank Me Later had better reviews than Recovery. Does that mean it's better? I don't think so.

[Trimss]

Lello, you can't call an album classic just because it had amazing productions.

It's not really a Kanye West album, it's a "Kanye featured" album. And that ruins it, i think he didn't have enough verses on his own shit. That's one of the main reason why it ain't a classic.

[ThomasJ]

I was using critics to piss them off. lol

^ No. Recovery is just better than MBDTF. I can understand everyone calling MBDTF a great album, even a near classic. But it's not.

And yeah, Thank Me Later had better reviews than Recovery. Does that mean it's better? I don't think so.

Lets compare them, shall we?

Recovery = wack mainstream beats, Em talking about how much he hates sluts, horrible voice, delivery, very bad rhyme structuring, only a handful of great songs
MBDTF = musical masterpiece, great Kanye lyrics most of the time, great features, almost every track is a stand out

Yeah, Recovery is so much better!!11!

[Trimss]

You didn't piss me off because i don't think MBDTF is shit and Recovery is classic, i'm just debating on which is better.

Recovery = wack mainstream beats, Em talking about how much he hates sluts, horrible voice, delivery, very bad rhyme structuring, only a handful of great songs
MBDTF = musical masterpiece, great Kanye lyrics most of the time, great features, almost every track is a stand out

Okay, let's compare.

Recovery = Dope flows, great lyrics and storytelling, funny tracks and a nostalgic feel.
MBDTF = 15 minutes of the main artist, shitty lyrics, Kanye saying on how he's the best on the few verses he spits.

It's easy to take all the good sides from an album and comparing it to all the bad sides from an other.

[ThomasJ]

You didn't piss me off because i don't think MBDTF is shit and Recovery is classic, i'm just debating on which is better.

Recovery = wack mainstream beats, Em talking about how much he hates sluts, horrible voice, delivery, very bad rhyme structuring, only a handful of great songs
MBDTF = musical masterpiece, great Kanye lyrics most of the time, great features, almost every track is a stand out

Okay, let's compare.

Recovery = Dope flows, great lyrics and storytelling, funny tracks and a nostalgic feel.
MBDTF = 15 minutes of the main artist, shitty lyrics, Kanye saying on how he's the best on the few verses he spits.

It's easy to take all the good sides from an album and comparing it to all the bad sides from an other.

Dope flows? He's constanty splitting bars, and the stop & go flow is horrible. He can't rap fast, he should stop trying.
Great lyrics and storytelling? The only good storytelling track on Recovery is Going Through Changes. Also, the majority of songs are littered with horrible punchlines and unwitty lines.
Funny tracks? Well, this is somewhat subjective, but the only tracks that are funny are 'On Fire' & 'So Bad', which both were intended for Relapse 2. (What a shock! )
Relapse is has a more nostalgic feel than Recovery. Amazing rhyming, flow & delivery remind me of the old Em more than horrible structuring, wannabe fast flows & shouting.

Kanye stays winning.

[Trimss]

@Revolutionnary Yeah you're right. It's just.. I think MBDTF is overrated, and Recovery gets a lot of hate.

If ThomasJ prefer MBDTF, well it's good for him.

Sorry for going offtopic though.


^ Cold Wind Blows, So Bad, W.T.P and Going Through Changes gave me more nostalgia than the whole Relapse album tbh.

On Fire, Cold Wind Blows, WTP and So Bad are funny though.

But yeah, whatever. Kanye wins.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

now im a big ass stan,but musically MBDTF is miles ahead better than recovery,but Recovery is better than MBDTF rap-wise.

[Trimss]

now im a big ass stan,but musically MBDTF is miles ahead better than recovery,but Recovery is better than MBDTF rap-wise.

Yeah but look, soon as someone says Recovery > MBDTF, Kanye's stans feel the need to bash Recovery. I think I was correct with MBDTF and didn't say it was trash or something.

[Devil'sAdvocate]

Relapse is a better album than recovery,in every single aspect of hip-hop.

the album followed a theme,better rhyming,bombastic flows and an intricate delivery unlike recovery which sounded all over the place.

plus recovery misses something very important that Em is known for,the tongue in cheek humor and wit,now im not completely hating on recovery because its still a decent album,but it is not a full on Eminem album in parts.

stop the kanye slander.