Immortal Technique pisses me off...

[Fa-Q]

Music Industry is the most evil place on earth....next to San Francisco...you know guys have sex with guys over there...

[classthe_king]

I love how you guys hate on Immortal Technique when you know nothing about him lmao

Its not really hate, but when people say stupid things they are gonna get made fun of.

Nothing he said was that stupid.

[VenomBlackViper]

Who cares? He got Diabolic more popularity & in the end that's all that matters.

[classthe_king]

I love how you guys hate on Immortal Technique when you know nothing about him lmao

False. I once was an idiot and thought he was mad dope, I've listened to all his shit, researched what he talked about, etc. I hate on him BECAUSE I know lots about him.

Well then you would know that he's probably the realest rapper there is. He does more for the people than anyone, and you would also know that he's also a rapper, and rap is entertainment. He may say some over the top stuff but he's always very level headed and intelligent in his interviews. The people hate him only skim through his music.

"Cause Condoleezza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings"

This is entertainment. Do people really think he's saying Rice fucked Jefferson? No. People are close minded and stupid for hating on Technique. Copyright Coleon

[FreeSpeech]

Well then you would know that he's probably the realest rapper there is. He does more for the people than anyone, and you would also know that he's also a rapper, and rap is entertainment. He may say some over the top stuff but he's always very level headed and intelligent in his interviews. The people hate him only skim through his music.

"Cause Condoleezza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings"

This is entertainment. Do people really think he's saying Rice fucked Jefferson? No. People are close minded and stupid for hating on Technique. Copyright Coleon

Yeah, I don't doubt that he's "real". He does stick up for stuff he believes in and do charity which is commendable, he just so happens to be a moron. I have watched his interviews, he's obviously not as exaggerated but he still says dumb shit, a la the HHDX article.

Some people DO hate him for superficial uninformed reasons. I'm not one of those people.

[Satire]

@Satire, what was funny about the logical part? It's true, some of the things he says can't be logical..simple as that. And I said that because when he says it he's not painting an imaginary piece, he literally thinks that that's true.

That's what. I don't know IT, I don't know his beliefs, I don't know if he really believes what he says on his records, I didn't even read this article or FreeSpeech's rant, but from this thread you're essentially saying you love him for being realistically idiotic.

LOL!
IT's music is unique, he himself said that you don't have to agree with what I say but just open your mind and give it some of your time.

That's it, i'm not arguing with a person that doesn't even know what IT is all about.

You're right, I don't know what the fuck IT is about but you're not giving me a good impression to even want to try when you're a huge fan but even admitting that some of the statements he makes can't even be backed up by logic itself lmfao.

I don't give a fuck if he's "real" or not, anyone can be real when they aren't bounded by a bigger chain. In fact, almost every imbecile is honest. You want to know why? Because stupid fucking people aren't smart enough to realize that what they believe is fucking stupid. I don't condone an underground artist for being "real" at this point. I'm not going to give some kid props for saying that the sky is blue because the moon cries when the sun is out, because that's a fucking retarded statement and they deserve to be hung on a branch by their elbows for being that ignorant, even if they actually believe it.

You don't have to argue, you asked why I thought that was funny, and that's why I think it's funny. My wasn't at IT's music, my was at how you worded that.

[classthe_king]

Well then you would know that he's probably the realest rapper there is. He does more for the people than anyone, and you would also know that he's also a rapper, and rap is entertainment. He may say some over the top stuff but he's always very level headed and intelligent in his interviews. The people hate him only skim through his music.

"Cause Condoleezza Rice is just a new age Sally Hemmings"

This is entertainment. Do people really think he's saying Rice fucked Jefferson? No. People are close minded and stupid for hating on Technique. Copyright Coleon

Yeah, I don't doubt that he's "real". He does stick up for stuff he believes in and do charity which is commendable, he just so happens to be a moron. I have watched his interviews, he's obviously not as exaggerated but he still says dumb shit, a la the HHDX article.

Some people DO hate him for superficial uninformed reasons. I'm not one of those people.

Well nothing in that article was tha dumb. He never said record companies shouldn't stop the illegal downloading of their music, he said it makes them look hypocritical.

[FreeSpeech]

Well nothing in that article was tha dumb. He never said record companies shouldn't stop the illegal downloading of their music, he said it makes them look hypocritical.

How? Giving an artist a bad contract isn't stealing. It's in B&W. That's life. I'm not saying it's nice, but they're operating within the law.

And yes he did say that essentially.

[Satire]

You're right, I don't know what the fuck IT is about but you're not giving me a good impression to even want to try when you're a huge fan but even admitting that some of the statements he makes can't even be backed up by logic itself lmfao.

I don't give a fuck if he's "real" or not, anyone can be real when they aren't bounded by a bigger chain. In fact, almost every imbecile is honest. You want to know why? Because stupid fucking people aren't smart enough to realize that what they believe is fucking stupid. I don't condone an underground artist for being "real" at this point. I'm not going to give some kid props for saying that the sky is blue because the moon cries when the sun is out, because that's a fucking retarded statement and they deserve to be hung on a branch by their elbows for being that ignorant, even if they actually believe it.

You don't have to argue, you asked why I thought that was funny, and that's why I think it's funny. My wasn't at IT's music, my was at how you worded that.

Why you mad tho? LOL!
Nah, but seriously....Just like what Class said, he can be entertaining.
I am a huge fan but that doesn't mean I have to agree with every word he says, that's just stupid!

Again, his unlogical lines can be entertaining and that's why I don't take 'em seriously.

I feel like the second part is directed at Class for some reason

I ain't mad, this is another case of "if you didn't ask, I wouldn't have answered".

I never said that you have to agree with every word he says, I hate when people automatically jump to this. But you said that the reason that you liked him is because he's honest even though you know what he is saying is retarded. If you know it's retarded, why give him brownie points for it? It's entertaining to hear what you know is untrue? If he was saying what he said for entertainment purposes, sure, I would give him a +1 for having creativity in 'story-telling' or some shit, cool. If he was honest with what he said and you agreed with it, or even find possibility in it, also cool. But why is it entertaining to hear somebody honestly speak on politics and conspiracy theories that you think are completely illogical, impossible and not intriguing? That's retarded.

And no, I'm not even paying attention to what class is saying right now.

[Satire]

I don't think you realize we are not arguing IT's music, stop trying to justify it. We're coming from completely different points from what we started with.

Ok, for the fourth time...Only SOME of what he says is ignorant/retarded/illogical or whatever.

You complimented on that, for being "real". Now it's changing to " it provides entertainment value". I'm saying that the mindstate of praising an artist for saying retarded shit but being "real about it" is idiotic, now you're turning this into a debate of why he's saying it, and where the other places you find 'entertainment' in it are. Do you agree with me or not?

And there's a huge difference between Em writing a song about murdering his wife and a conspiracy theory that somebody actually believes. Murdering your wife in a song is an obvious exaggeration of a true feeling, a conspiracy theory that seems illogical but is being stated truthfully (from what you've told me) is what IT actually believes. Being dramatic and just being stupid as fuck are two completely different things. But again, I don't listen to IT, so that's not where I was coming from when I lol'd at your comment.

[Satire]

^Well, your whole argument is invalid because I never used the word "real". Yet, you keep on sayin shit about me callin him "real".

All what I was trying to say is I can agree with the fact that some of his lines don't make sense, some of his theories aren't true.

How is my entire argument invalid because I summarized what your entire sentence said in a word?

And I said that because when he says it he's not painting an imaginary piece, he literally thinks that that's true.

That is literally the description that the word "real" implies.

[Mahmoud48]

nothing good comes from an immortal technique thread

[Satire]

:laughing:
You were talking about the artist there for the most part.
My sentence was about some of lines, writes or whatever. Not "real" it's a stronger word don't you think?

Do I seriously have to keep repeating myself just so you can understand these simple concepts?

When you say that you respect/"really love" (Just in case you don't remember saying that either) for saying things that are true or untrue, illogical or not, but just because he's being honest with them even if the statements he makes are flat out fucking retarded, you are saying that you love them for being real.

So yes, my argument still stands, and even if the word "real", wasn't used, if you were as smart like space-cadet Immortal Technique you would still get the basis of it. Stop arguing over the interchangeable and either address it or stop replying.

[VenomBlackViper]

Shut up Revolutionary, stop trying to involve yourself in Mahmoud & Satire's argument.

[Satire]

Once again, you don't need to justify IT's shitty music. I'm going to answer to what pertained to my original post.

My first comment was to address why I love IT's music, I don't need someone questioning me why I listen to a person that makes no sense some times

I didn't question you, you questioned me as to why I found your statement laughable and I answered you. This entire argument boils down to you should have worded it better, honestly.