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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby gutawafang » Nov 7th, '09, 11:32

best underground rapper - MC Anonymus. :smoking:
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby BILI » Nov 7th, '09, 14:13

I like Iron Solomon,hes dope
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby Yah-hah » Jan 30th, '10, 06:11

^^LMAO, this cat named dna is a killer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGN1pYXmDno
freestyles are sick


Okwerdz is kinda beastly at freein too. Had me laughin
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby Jaz » Apr 4th, '10, 12:36

Coleon wrote:Jin is a bitch

I heard there's a guy named Spec or Spectac who freestyled for like 40 minutes straight

my fave freestyler, as in written freestyles is Canibis

NoCanDo is a dope freestyle battle rapper because you can tell he's comin off the dome



What? If there's a pen, pencil, keyboard, marker, crayon, or any other utensil other than your brain and a mic involved.. It isn't a freestyle.
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby Drama Setter » Apr 4th, '10, 13:57

Dope shit :y:
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby mcZu » Apr 4th, '10, 14:04

^Wrong. Freestyle means to be able to rap a written verse on the spot. What you're refering to is called ''off the dome'' or ''coming from the top of the head''. Back in the days, when you weren't able to spit a written verse and rather spat something from the top of the head, people would mock your emcee ability.

A freestyle is just something that you do on the spot, it's free, hence the name being free-style. A creative outburst, a way to showcast your ability as an emcee. That's why, when rappers spit over another rapper's beat on their mixtapes, they put ''freestyle'' behind the title. Because it is a freestyle, they're just bragging and boasting and showcasting their skills.

A lot of people tend to misuse this term.
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby Jaz » Apr 4th, '10, 15:27

mcZu wrote:^Wrong. Freestyle means to be able to rap a written verse on the spot. What you're refering to is called ''off the dome'' or ''coming from the top of the head''. Back in the days, when you weren't able to spit a written verse and rather spat something from the top of the head, people would mock your emcee ability.

A freestyle is just something that you do on the spot, it's free, hence the name being free-style. A creative outburst, a way to showcast your ability as an emcee. That's why, when rappers spit over another rapper's beat on their mixtapes, they put ''freestyle'' behind the title. Because it is a freestyle, they're just bragging and boasting and showcasting their skills.

A lot of people tend to misuse this term.


You sir, have been misguided. Spitting a written without reading it is not a freestyle, that just means you actually take the time to learn your music.

I'm a terrible freestyle rapper, but I can spit just about any verse I've made off the top of my head..
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby mcZu » Apr 4th, '10, 15:29

I have not been misguided. You guys are. I don't care if the majority says it aint so. Because it is. Do some research guys. I'm pretty sure that you can find BDK and KGR explaining it in a video on youtube somewhere.
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby Jaz » Apr 4th, '10, 15:39

It doesn't matter what 2 old school rappers and one guy who replied to that thread say, it is widely accepted that the term freestyle means to spit bars you make up on the spot.

Also, if you would move further down the wikipedia page you googled in a sad attempt to prove me wrong, you will see that it says from the '90s on, I am right.

Edit: Ok I now see that the thread you linked isn't yours, so obviously you didn't google it, but that person did.
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby MikeNUFC » Apr 4th, '10, 15:40

Jaz wrote:It doesn't matter what 2 old school rappers and one guy who replied to that thread say, it is widely accepted that the term freestyle means to spit bars you make up on the spot.

Also, if you would move further down the wikipedia page you googled in a sad attempt to prove me wrong, you will see that it says from the '90s on, I am right.

I didnt Google anything (what Wiki page?), and I'm not saying anyone is right or wrong, I just remembered that thread and thought I'd throw it in to the debate.
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby Jaz » Apr 4th, '10, 15:41

I edited my last post just as you posted that, it should explain that a bit.
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby mcZu » Apr 4th, '10, 15:42

It might be accepted, however it's still a misconception.
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby Jaz » Apr 4th, '10, 15:46

mcZu wrote:It might be accepted, however it's still a misconception.



No, it's not. it may have been different in the '80s.. but since then, a freestyle is off the dome.


From the same wikipedia page that the linked thread was copied from:

Newer Definition

Since the early ‘90s onwards, with the popularization of improvisational rapping from groups/artists such as Freestyle Fellowship through to Eminem’s 8 Mile, ‘freestyle’ has come to be the widely used term for rap lyrics which are improvised on the spot[1][3][4][5]. This type of freestyle is the focus of Kevin Fitzgerald’s documentary, Freestyle: The Art of Rhyme, where the term is used throughout by numerous artists to mean improvisational rapping[1].
Kool Moe Dee suggests the change in how the term is used happened somewhere in the mid to late ‘80s, saying, “until 1986, all freestyles were written”[16], and “before the ‘90s it was about how hard you could come with a written rhyme with no particular subject matter and no real purpose other than showing your lyrical prowess”[13].
Myka 9 of Freestyle Fellowship explains that Freestyle Fellowship helped redefine the term – “that’s what they say I helped do - I helped get the world to freestyle, me and the Freestyle Fellowship, by inventing the Freestyle Fellowship and by redefining what freestyle is… We have redefined what freestyle is by saying that it’s improvisational rap like a jazz solo”[6].
Although this kind of freestyling is very well respected today[1], Kool Moe Dee states that this was not the case previously:
"A lot of the old-school artists didn’t even respect what’s being called freestyle now...[13] any emcee coming off the top of the head wasn’t really respected. The sentiment was emcees only did that if they couldn’t write. The coming off the top of the head rhymer had a built-in excuse to not be critiqued as hard[16]".


Although I do agree with that last bolded part, it's pretty lame.
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Re: so called best underground freestyler

Postby mcZu » Apr 4th, '10, 15:50

Nothing defines it correctly, indeed.

And the majority accepeted that a freestyle is off the dome, yes.

However, that doesn't take away that a written verse is not a freestyle. That's the misconception I'm talking about. Because, it is.
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