Kanye West - Monster (NEW)

[MikeNUFC]

Bad song.

Boring beat, Kanye was boring as hell. Jay's verse was pretty nice, flow a bit off but fuck it. Nicky's verse was embarrasing, despite a decent flow. She's a really bad rapper, and a dick as person (disrespecting Eric B was disgusting).

What'd she say

http://theybf.com/2010/04/16/nicki-mina ... end-eric-b

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.1 ... -encounter

[EminemBase]

lol at the nikki hate, she's fucking sick stfu

True that.

Whether people find her annoying or not, I checked out her mixtape. Her flow >>>>> Jay's flow. Laugh all you want, the man cannot ride a beat like that or change cadences so effortlessly and creatively.

Also her flow >>>> Wayne's flow.

I can see why Kanye said she has the potential to be the number #2 rapper of all-time behind Em. I don't think she will be but I can see why he said it. She totally imbues herself into the mic 110% like Em.

[classthe_king]

lol at the nikki hate, she's fucking sick stfu

True that.

Whether people find her annoying or not, I checked out her mixtape. Her flow >>>>> Jay's flow. Laugh all you want, the man cannot ride a beat like that or change cadences so effortlessly and creatively.

Jay-Z's lyrics are 100x better then her's though. Nicki Minaj is just a fucking bitch with shitty ass young money lyrics and the most annoying delivery in hip-hop. Can't stand her.

[EminemBase]

lol at the nikki hate, she's fucking sick stfu

True that.

Whether people find her annoying or not, I checked out her mixtape. Her flow >>>>> Jay's flow. Laugh all you want, the man cannot ride a beat like that or change cadences so effortlessly and creatively.

Jay-Z's lyrics are 100x better then her's though. Nicki Minaj is just a fucking bitch with shitty ass young money lyrics and the most annoying delivery in hip-hop. Can't stand her.

Maybe but she already has more immediate creativity in every element of her delivery / thoughts regardless of their immaturity / annoying-nature.

I think as she develops she'll definitely create more interesting material than him.

[classthe_king]

You're telling me what she's putting out now has more creativity then Reasonable Doubt? LMAO

[EminemBase]

You're telling me what she's putting out now has more creativity then Reasonable Doubt? LMAO

Well don't ask a question then assume an answer yourself.

Makes asking the question completely pointless in the first place. When did I say her present material is more creative than anything he's put out? Oh, I never.

What I said was she already has more immediate creativity in every element of her DELIVERY / thoughts. I'm talking about the way she presents herself on the mic, yes it's much more creative than Jay.

As for Reasonable Doubt, I don't consider that a particularly creative album. As usual just plenty of bragging / thoughts about hustling, New York and cash. I'd hardly call Jay-Z a creative genius.

[classthe_king]

Yeah, you said delivery/THOUGHTS.

There is no way her creativity is close to his.

[EminemBase]

Yeah, you said delivery/THOUGHTS.

There is no way her creativity is close to his.

Yeah but the reason I put delivery and thoughts together, separated by a slash was because I'm showing them as connected.

I'm talking about her delivery and the way she chooses to put thoughts across on the mic. She does that much more creatively than Jay-Z already. So in no way is that saying she's created material that's on a par with his best yet. It's saying her technique, the way she does things, is more creative already.

And yes it is. Jay-Z is hardly a super-creative force. Regardless of what you think of his mic technique, his discography... W.e, he is in no way one of the top CREATIVE minds of rap. For example, Kanye West, B.o.B, Kid Cudi... Their creativity >> Jay's, already.

He's rapper. They're artists.

[classthe_king]

Yeah, you said delivery/THOUGHTS.

There is no way her creativity is close to his.

Yeah but the reason I put delivery and thoughts together, separated by a slash was because I'm showing them as connected.

I'm talking about her delivery and the way she chooses to put thoughts across on the mic. She does that much more creatively than Jay-Z already. So in no way is that saying she's created material that's on a par with his best yet. It's saying her technique, the way she does things, is more creative already.

Because she yells it in her high pitched voice? Sorry, I hate her delivery.

[EminemBase]

Yeah, you said delivery/THOUGHTS.

There is no way her creativity is close to his.

Yeah but the reason I put delivery and thoughts together, separated by a slash was because I'm showing them as connected.

I'm talking about her delivery and the way she chooses to put thoughts across on the mic. She does that much more creatively than Jay-Z already. So in no way is that saying she's created material that's on a par with his best yet. It's saying her technique, the way she does things, is more creative already.

Because she yells it in her high pitched voice? Sorry, I hate her delivery.

No not at all.

This is like when people couldn't stand Eminem's voice in 99, viewed him as a joke rapper just because he had yellow hair and a high-pitched voice.

Many missing the things he was saying and what he was doing lyrically. Fuck whether you like her voice or not, if I have to spell-out to you how she's creative in her various ways then you ain't listened to her properly. In which case aren't worth debating on this.

[classthe_king]

So you just compared Eminem in 99 to Nicki Minaj lmao. Eminem's lyrics were amazing back then, Nicki Minaj's lyrics are hardly average.

[EminemBase]

So you just compared Eminem in 99 to Nicki Minaj lmao. Eminem's lyrics were amazing back then, Nicki Minaj's lyrics are hardly average.

FFS man, do you get tired of missing the point?

Why the fuck does everybody do this. It's not a direct comparison of their talents, the comparison is in people not paying proper attention because of an arbitrary annoyance with them.

I'm not saying Nicki Minaj is as good or anything like Eminem in 99, I'm saying the type of dismissal is in a similar realm. Christ, people really don't get the point of comparison these days.

If you compare two things they always do that. It's not a direct comparison, it's to prove a point outside of their specific personalities / talents.

[classthe_king]

So you just compared Eminem in 99 to Nicki Minaj lmao. Eminem's lyrics were amazing back then, Nicki Minaj's lyrics are hardly average.

FFS man, do you get tired of missing the point?

Why the fuck does everybody do this. It's not a direct comparison of their talents, the comparison is in people not paying proper attention because of an arbitrary annoyance with them.

I'm not saying Nicki Minaj is as good or anything like Eminem in 99, I'm saying the type of dismissal is in a similar realm. Christ, people really don't get the point of comparison these days.

If you compare two things they always do that. It's not a direct comparison, it's to prove a point outside of their specific personalities / talents.

What point are you proving dude? That I don't like Nicki Minaj because of her appearence and voice even though she has talent? Sorry, I hate her voice and her lyrics, I don't think she has talent. I think YOU'RE missing the point.

[EminemBase]

So you just compared Eminem in 99 to Nicki Minaj lmao. Eminem's lyrics were amazing back then, Nicki Minaj's lyrics are hardly average.

FFS man, do you get tired of missing the point?

Why the fuck does everybody do this. It's not a direct comparison of their talents, the comparison is in people not paying proper attention because of an arbitrary annoyance with them.

I'm not saying Nicki Minaj is as good or anything like Eminem in 99, I'm saying the type of dismissal is in a similar realm. Christ, people really don't get the point of comparison these days.

If you compare two things they always do that. It's not a direct comparison, it's to prove a point outside of their specific personalities / talents.

why you mad tho?

Because he took the wrong angle of comparison and pointed it out when I was clearly comparing their grounds of dismissal of which they share a similarity. Not their talents.

Why you unable to think for yourself tho?

[classthe_king]

Because they aren't even comparable. How do you know people are dismissing Nicki Minaj for that, maybe it's because as a rapper she sucks?