rap in britain is a disgrace compared to americas'

[EminemBase]

You're a retard.

Dizzee's skills (when he was still grime) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jay and Wayne's and shitloads of other 's.

In fact Rolling Stone even commented when they reviewed that album, saying it's staggering to release how many global American MCs have built entire careers on such mediocrity in comparison.

The UK just doesn't have as many and Hip-Hop isn't full-fledged here. Grime is really our contribution to it and that's still basically underground. Everything else which gets labelled UK hip-hop is usually a blend.

But the GOOD, and I mean REALLY GOOD UK MC's >>>> US MC's. Aside from the elite few. But on average, UK MC's are way further ahead, and due to Britain's obsession with humour, self-consciousness etc. this all seeps into the lyricism and it's more intelligent as a result.

Are you also forgetting that one of the main forces in hip-hop in the 80s - Slick Rick is British? He was one of the pioneers of storytelling, and humourous rap (like I said, UK are obsessed with it) - He was a massive influence on Eminem, Asher Roth and also B.o.B. Where the fuck do you think Bobby got the title / cover idea for his debut? It's a homage. Retard.

Without Slick Rick, a UK MC, Em probably wouldn't be the MC you know him as.

Most British accents just don't work with the style.. at least in my mind. The ones who are good are great, though. To say on average UK rappers are better than US seems ridiculous to me, though. I've heard less than 5 British artists that I can even listen to, and even those only on occasion.

Well if you're listening to UK RAPPERS then I'm not surprised.

If you're talking about UK Hip-Hop, it's fucking corny bar a few. I'm talking about Grime. British accents very much work with Grime.

It's faster, harder, more forceful street music and the lyricsm and flows are 10 times what the majority of US hip-hop ones are. Accents are just a preference, I'm saying on average UK MC's are ahead of US MC's (lyrically). Not that popular or signed artists are better or put out better music.

[nathan123]

^^ dickhead, you must want to chew on some shit right now cos i am from britian, and i dont have a clue to wat he says whereas i understand other britsh rappers such as wiley and tinchy stryder and prof green!

when i say dominating i mean songs that is all over the charts and radio that absoloutley suck dick...dizzie rascal and james corden ? are you fucking serious ? lets just stop debating over that prick !

you are just conderdicting yourself mate, you said a min ago that really good uk mcs shit over some american mcs and yet your the one now comparing the population, as to say britian hasnt got a chance

[dR3]

That was the most ignorant shit I've ever read.

[Jaz]

EmBase, how are you gonna say that UK rappers are ahead of US rappers, then come back and say UK rap sucks and UK hip hop sucks, but Grime is pretty good?

[EminemBase]

EmBase, how are you gonna say that UK rappers are ahead of US rappers, then come back and say UK rap sucks and UK hip hop sucks, but Grime is pretty good?

I didn't say that. Try reading the fucking posts properly.

I've been stating in almost every post that UK Hip-Hop barely exists and I'm referring to it as Grime. Since that's pretty much our version of hip-hop. Hence why I mentioned Dizzee Rascal - A GRIME ARTIST in my very first reply.

[Jaz]

EmBase, how are you gonna say that UK rappers are ahead of US rappers, then come back and say UK rap sucks and UK hip hop sucks, but Grime is pretty good?

I didn't say that. Try reading the fucking posts properly.

I've been stating in almost every post that UK Hip-Hop barely exists and I'm referring to it as Grime.

Since that's pretty much our version of hip-hop. Hence why I mentioned Dizzee Rascal - A GRIME ARTIST in my very first reply.

Try eating a dick, because your exact words were "GOOD UK MC'S >>>> US MC'S"


And that grime track posted up sounds like shit.. Just sayin..

[EminemBase]

Grime >>>>>>>>>

Not many US Rappers could pull this off

Lyrically & FLOW wise, +energy its sick.

Exactly.

Grime is faster, harder and more refined. The flows and rhymes are insane.

I've even heard local MCs in my shitty piece of turd city which are jokes but shit on most US rappers. Because of the nature of grime beats and the energy and the whole scene going on, it's just insanity layed to a track and shits on most US hip-hop in terms of lyrics and flow.

[EminemBase]

EmBase, how are you gonna say that UK rappers are ahead of US rappers, then come back and say UK rap sucks and UK hip hop sucks, but Grime is pretty good?

I didn't say that. Try reading the fucking posts properly.

I've been stating in almost every post that UK Hip-Hop barely exists and I'm referring to it as Grime.

Since that's pretty much our version of hip-hop. Hence why I mentioned Dizzee Rascal - A GRIME ARTIST in my very first reply.

Try eating a dick, because your exact words were "GOOD UK MC'S >>>> US MC'S"


And that grime track posted up sounds like shit.. Just sayin..

And the paragraph before that was... ?

The UK just doesn't have as many and Hip-Hop isn't full-fledged here. Grime is really our contribution to it and that's still basically underground. Everything else which gets labelled UK hip-hop is usually a blend.

What's the matter got fucking amnesia all of a sudden.

Not only did I mention a grime artist in the very first reply, I even define it in a fucking paragraph. And FYI we call grime artists MC's here. You fucking idiot.

[nathan123]

Grime >>>>>>>>>

Not many US Rappers could pull this off

Lyrically & FLOW wise, +energy its sick.

Exactly.

Grime is faster, harder and more refined. The flows and rhymes are insane.

I've even heard local MCs in my shitty piece of turd city which are jokes but shit on most US rappers. Because of the nature of grime beats and the energy and the whole scene going on, it's just insanity layed to a track and shits on most US hip-hop in terms of lyrics and flow.

so i take it you have heard all underground u.s rappers also then, if so you are 100% elegible to make that comment

[Jaz]

I don't know much about grime, but I've heard like 3 tracks posted on this forum that ya'll are calling grime and they don't sound good at all, whether some are live or not.

And no shit the beat isn't a grime beat. Didn't think I'd needed to specify I was talking about the rapper to grand master grime here.

[mcZu]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yCeqM6W4iQ

[fopower]

Grime >>>>>>>>>

Not many US Rappers could pull this off

Lyrically & FLOW wise, +energy its sick.

^This is sooo not what I thought the British accent sounded like. This sounds like some kind of caribbean accent imo.

[EM-DZ]

UK ACCENT SUCKSSSS

[EminemBase]

Grime >>>>>>>>>

Not many US Rappers could pull this off

Lyrically & FLOW wise, +energy its sick.

Exactly.

Grime is faster, harder and more refined. The flows and rhymes are insane.

I've even heard local MCs in my shitty piece of turd city which are jokes but shit on most US rappers. Because of the nature of grime beats and the energy and the whole scene going on, it's just insanity layed to a track and shits on most US hip-hop in terms of lyrics and flow.

so i take it you have heard all underground u.s rappers also then, if so you are 100% elegible to make that comment

Obviously I haven't heard ALL underground rappers. Nobody fucking has.

It's impossible to hear all of anything as you can never put definition on the limit, you never know when / if it's stopped, who's just come up, who you haven't heard of.

But the point is, I have heard underground US rappers and listen to a lot of US hip-hop, not just the guys on the radio. In fact not at all the guys on the radio bar Em.

Where as you, clearly have no knowledge of ANY good UK MC's. You've just heard a few idiots on the charts and tried to sum up an entire country / music-scene with that? And as a result look ignorant, foolish and pathetic and have now been exposed a total fucking dullard.

[UzaKING]

The accent kills it for me..
But your saying they are lyricaly better so post some dope UK lyrics and ill see if I can match with some USA lyrics