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Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 29th, '11, 00:43

classthe_king wrote:Outside of connections there are millions of people will image and charisma. Justin Bieber just got lucky with connections. That doesn't make him special or important at all.

Do you get that man?



and there's my point,
there's a bunch of people out there with a little bit of talent
there's a bunch of people out there with a little bit of connection
there's a bunch of people out there with a good image
there's a bunch of people out there with charisma

but there is not a bunch of people with all of those together.

That is what makes JB special, and those people who have just one or two of them, not so special.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby classthe_king » Mar 29th, '11, 00:45

CONNECTION DOESN'T MAKE HIM SPECIAL AT ALL.

That's like saying someone who won the lottery did it because they're really good at guessing numbers. No, he just got super fucking lucky.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby dR3 » Mar 29th, '11, 00:48

His real (live) singing is cringe worthy, so you can't say that he can sing.

He (apparently) writes songs anyone else could write, so that too isn't exactly talent.

He doesn't make the songs catchy, others tell him how to sing the song.


Again, I'm not denying his success, only his talent, which is what the subject of the argument was about in the first place.

I hope that clears it up, I'm off to sleep.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 29th, '11, 00:52

Miller1121 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:CONNECTION DOESN'T MAKE HIM SPECIAL AT ALL.

That's like saying someone who won the lottery did it because they're really good at guessing numbers. No, he just got super fucking lucky.

I gotta agree with class on this one :o


putting random numbers in a fuckin lottery is not like having connections. Those two are completey different and i'm not sure how you can compare the two.

Any idiot can put random numbers in a lottery and win.. You have to be charismatic and a good image to find connections of people who would want to help you become famous and rich.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby classthe_king » Mar 29th, '11, 00:58

Tash8 wrote:
Miller1121 wrote:
classthe_king wrote:CONNECTION DOESN'T MAKE HIM SPECIAL AT ALL.

That's like saying someone who won the lottery did it because they're really good at guessing numbers. No, he just got super fucking lucky.

I gotta agree with class on this one :o


putting random numbers in a fuckin lottery is not like having connections. Those two are completey different and i'm not sure how you can compare the two.

Any idiot can put random numbers in a lottery and win.. You have to be charismatic and a good image to find connections of people who would want to help you become famous and rich.


The labels don't give a fuck about the artists lmfao. They don't think, oh this Justin Bieber is a real nice and cool kid, let's give him millions of dollars. They say, wow this little fag will make us a billions, teenage girls will love him.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Satire » Mar 29th, '11, 01:00

This argument is so fucking stupid it's impossible to fathom how this lasted so long. Both sides have done nothing but repeat the same thing for 4 pages.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Mar 29th, '11, 01:02

Justin Beiber is dope, she'll grow up to be a great singer, she can only improve from here on out.

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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby VenomBlackViper » Mar 29th, '11, 01:34

Satire wrote:This argument is so fucking stupid it's impossible to fathom how this lasted so long. Both sides have done nothing but repeat the same thing for 4 pages.

Yeah i'm gonna have to go back to In Bolivia pictures now.
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 29th, '11, 01:35

VenomBlackViper wrote:
Satire wrote:This argument is so fucking stupid it's impossible to fathom how this lasted so long. Both sides have done nothing but repeat the same thing for 4 pages.

Yeah i'm gonna have to go back to In Bolivia pictures now.


yeah i take back that PM
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby VenomBlackViper » Mar 29th, '11, 01:36

Tash8 wrote:
VenomBlackViper wrote:
Satire wrote:This argument is so fucking stupid it's impossible to fathom how this lasted so long. Both sides have done nothing but repeat the same thing for 4 pages.

Yeah i'm gonna have to go back to In Bolivia pictures now.


yeah i take back that PM

Wait is that clearing me to do it or giving me a warning? :sweating:
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tash8 » Mar 29th, '11, 01:41

VenomBlackViper wrote:Wait is that clearing me to do it or giving me a warning? :sweating:


lol clearing u to do it. at least for this topic
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby VenomBlackViper » Mar 29th, '11, 01:49

Tash8 wrote:
VenomBlackViper wrote:Wait is that clearing me to do it or giving me a warning? :sweating:


lol clearing u to do it. at least for this topic

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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby dshady89 » Mar 29th, '11, 05:11

Stay Wide Awake >>>>>>>>>>>>> Copywrite's entire existence
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby classthe_king » Mar 29th, '11, 05:16

dshady89 wrote:Stay Wide Awake >>>>>>>>>>>>> Copywrite's entire existence


lolwut
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Re: Mainstream is just as talented as Underground

Postby Tranquil » Mar 29th, '11, 05:35

No fucking way, the underground is way more talented and has WAY more talented people in it. Its just a pitty that in order to make it big you need to make faggy ass club hits :facepalm
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