Big Sean feat. Jay Electronica & Kendrick Lamar - Control

[King Lance]

Do you even know how to dissect a flow ? no you don't. you think it's just slow or fast rapping.

What the fuck? No I don't. When during all my time/posts on this site, did I even come close to saying that?

This is an example of monstrous flows: http://youtu.be/JgUXvf77oGk?t=2m35s

This is an example of random flow,

[Elision]

Quit hating

Dude I'm not hating! I'm being genuine here. I want this to feel as amazing to me as it is to you. So far all I've received is flame for this

[King Lance]

holy shit elision shut the fuck up :''((((( fucking rittz are you serious

jay elec was just as good as kendrick on this btw, maybe even better

Rittz is great. I doubt Kendrick could rap like Rittz does.

That's not to say Rittz is better though. He does his thing, and does it well.

Kendrick's flow is probably one of the most complex flows we have heard in a long time, very long time. (since Eminem and Andre 3000 actually)

people who can't hear that should read that article:
http://www.rapanalysis.com/2012/11/rap- ... lamar.html
http://rapgenius.com/posts/1610-How-to- ... -freestyle

well I didn't need that shit to hear the complexity of his flow but it looks like some people need to
and if you want, you can find the same about Eminem and Nas and other underground rappers

Rapping fast =/= better flow

[Eedee]

I agree with Elision and Geno. I understand what this means for hip-hop, I can appreciate it. Bringing some spark back into the genre. That's all well and good but that alone does NOT make the verse 'technically' (in the sense of rhymes, etc) good.

[Shameek]

holy shit elision shut the fuck up :''((((( fucking rittz are you serious

jay elec was just as good as kendrick on this btw, maybe even better

Rittz is great. I doubt Kendrick could rap like Rittz does.

That's not to say Rittz is better though. He does his thing, and does it well.

Kendrick's flow is probably one of the most complex flows we have heard in a long time, very long time. (since Eminem and Andre 3000 actually)

people who can't hear that should read that article:
http://www.rapanalysis.com/2012/11/rap- ... lamar.html
http://rapgenius.com/posts/1610-How-to- ... -freestyle

well I didn't need that shit to hear the complexity of his flow but it looks like some people need to
and if you want, you can find the same about Eminem and Nas and other underground rappers

Rapping fast =/= better flow

Martin Connor is a very good writer, his stuff on Nas literally blew my mind

[Eedee]

I agree with Elision and Geno. I understand what this means for hip-hop, I can appreciate it. Bringing some spark back into the genre. That's all well and good but that alone does NOT make the verse 'technically' (in the sense of rhymes, etc) good.

Although

This part is awesome

What is competition? I'm tryna raise the bar high
Who tryna jump and get it? You better off tryna skydive
Out the exit window of 5 G5’s with 5 grand
With your granddad as the pilot he drunk as fuck tryna land
With the hand full of arthritis and popping prosthetic leg
Bumpin Pac in the cockpit so the shit that pops in his head
Is an option of violence, someone heard the stewardess said
That your parachute is a latex condom hooked to a dread

Yeah the extended metaphor was pretty nice there, to be honest.

[Shameek]

I agree with Elision and Geno. I understand what this means for hip-hop, I can appreciate it. Bringing some spark back into the genre. That's all well and good but that alone does NOT make the verse 'technically' (in the sense of rhymes, etc) good.

Kendrick's flow is undeniably one of the most technical flows in hip hop, either you want it or not.
Eminem has the best rhyme schemes and people don't even consider him as a top 5 rapper.

[Elision]

Kendrick's flow is probably one of the most complex flows we have heard in a long time, very long time.

Kendrick's flows (from what I've heard) are far from complex. It doesn't even seem like he's going out of his way for them.

people who can't hear that should read that article: http://rapgenius.com/posts/1610-How-to- ... -freestyle
http://www.rapanalysis.com/2012/11/rap- ... lamar.html

If I continued to list other rappers doing this today, would it help? Because after all this I feel like it wouldn't.

and if you want, you can find the same about Eminem and Nas and other underground rappers

That's my point. Kendrick's flow (note I'm speaking strictly on flow) is nothing new here. There's not even diversity in it, dude rarely switches it up, and I've only ever seen him do it once mid-verse. Whereas there's a handful of artists who chomp through mindboggling flows 4 bars at a time and then move on to the next one. Yet somehow these artists are getting ignored by you guys?

[Eedee]

I agree with Elision and Geno. I understand what this means for hip-hop, I can appreciate it. Bringing some spark back into the genre. That's all well and good but that alone does NOT make the verse 'technically' (in the sense of rhymes, etc) good.

Kendrick's flow is undeniably one of the most technical flows in hip hop, either you want it or not.
Eminem has the best rhyme schemes and people don't even consider him as a top 5 rapper.

Sorry, what?

[Elision]

Kendrick's flow is undeniably one of the most technical flows in hip hop, either you want it or not.

Dude, link me one Kendrick verse that has "one of the most technical flows in hiphop". I need to see your definition of crazy flow.

[Shameek]

I don't think anyone said Kendrick's verse was technically good but it was written well, everyone got the message.

and I don't want Kendrick to have more rhymes in his songs, his fans don't want that, nobody wants hi mto compromise the content of his songs.
Kendrick has one of the best flows and he is lyrical on his albums, it all that matters.

Kendrick's flow is undeniably one of the most technical flows in hip hop, either you want it or not.

Dude, link me one Kendrick verse that has "one of the most technical flows in hiphop". I need to see your definition of crazy flow.

Maad city is often praised as one of the best songs of the last years and it contains some of the best transitions between different rhythmic levels, and the rhythm is one of the most important parts of a flow.

[Trimss]

Eminem has the best rhyme schemes and people don't even consider him as a top 5 rapper.

Who's the best MC? Kendrick, Jigga and Nas
Eminem, Andre 3000

I grew up to Em, B.I.G., and Pac an

Two of the biggest rappers beg to differ.

Also Shameek, define flow.

[King Lance]

http://www.rapanalysis.com/2012/11/rap- ... lamar.html

this ain't for simple minds

kdot da god

[Elision]

Maad city is often praised as one of the best songs of the last years and it contains some of the best transitions between different rhythmic levels, and the rhythm is one of the most important parts of a flow.

So this should be considered the greatest verse of all time right? http://youtu.be/9IJX3oFl1Nw?t=4m7s

Fuck outta here with this "kendrick has the most technical flow in the world" shit. He's an awesome artist but flows are far from his strong point.

[Trimss]

I don't agree with saying Kendrick has one of the best flow ever either.