Should Tech and Krizz be in Slaughterhouse?

[Rattle1]

Are you referring to i love music or fragile? either way tech was better, better flow(s), better rhyming, staying on a subject, better delivery, how is this even debatable?

>Is a Tech N9ne fan
>Thinks he can criticize Kendrick for going off-topic

Kendrick didn't go off-topic, he actually stayed on the subject matter.

like someone said before, tech got killed by almost all the guest rappers on that album

[Elision]

Are you referring to i love music or fragile? either way tech was better, better flow(s), better rhyming, staying on a subject, better delivery, how is this even debatable?

>Is a Tech N9ne fan
>Thinks he can criticize Kendrick for going off-topic

I can. He did. We're talking about two tracks here. There were some bars from kendrick on both tracks that were just filler, while tech stayed on-topic beginning to end.

Kendrick didn't go off-topic, he actually stayed on the subject matter.

Dude he very fucking did. On both tracks there's filler bars from kendrick. How are you not seeing this?

like someone said before, tech got killed by almost all the guest rappers on that album

What's one example besides maybe snow?

[CanadaPure]

What's one example besides maybe snow?

He doesn't need any other examples, once you get ethered by a girl rapper your career is over.

[Slim Timmeel]

90% of the featured artists had the better verses on Something Else

are you fucking kidding me? this is the definition of bias.

Krizz Kaliko got him
Kendrick got him
Big K.R.I.T. got him
Liz Suwandi & Tyler Lyon saved Love to dislike me
B.o.B.'s hook is the highlight of See Me
Twisted Insane got him

[CanadaPure]

Krizz Kaliko got him
Kendrick got him
Big K.R.I.T. got him
Liz Suwandi & Tyler Lyon saved Love to dislike me
B.o.B.'s hook is the highlight of See Me
Twisted Insane got him

Serj Tankian even got him TBH

[Slim Timmeel]

Krizz Kaliko got him
Kendrick got him
Big K.R.I.T. got him
Liz Suwandi & Tyler Lyon saved Love to dislike me
B.o.B.'s hook is the highlight of See Me
Twisted Insane got him

Serj Tankian even got him TBH

I don't know, maybe.

Tech can flow but most of the time he's rapping about absolutely nothing. He literally rhymes for the sake of rhyming.

[Elision]

What's one example besides maybe snow?

He doesn't need any other examples, once you get ethered by a girl rapper your career is over.

Dude snow is no pushover, she's incredible.

90% of the featured artists had the better verses on Something Else

are you fucking kidding me? this is the definition of bias.

Krizz Kaliko got him

What? He had like 6-8 bars on that whole song. Tech had 2 and 1/2 full verses, and how are you even going to deny the 3rd? Seriously, tell me how in what way Krizz outshines tech's 3rd verse.

Kendrick got him

Again, how? Tech had better everything. And that's from an objective standpoint.

Big K.R.I.T. got him

What?? Dude hardly stayed on beat, and couldn't rhyme more than one syllable at a time. Kutt had a better verse

Liz Suwandi & Tyler Lyon saved Love to dislike me

I don't know what you mean, elaborate. Tech wrote the whole track. Also Tyler Lyon is fucking annoying, I had to cut his shit out when the album leaked to be able to listen to it.

B.o.B.'s hook is the highlight of See Me

Wait What? That's the most generic bullshit hook I've ever heard.

Twisted Insane got him

Dude now you're not even trying any more. Twisted had the worst verse on that whole track.

Tech can flow but most of the time he's rapping about absolutely nothing.

What's an example?

How exactly was Kendrick's verse on "Fragile" off topic

This is more than you, and this is more than you
And your entire building slanderin' and abusin'
What I call the realest comin' from a student
Told myself to use a poem as an UZI
Empty magazine, I seen a magazine
You seen my trigger finger, then I started shootin'
That was nicotine, I'm bout to smoke 'em all
And journalists involved should've known my music

What in the world is that about? Let alone fragility.

[Rattle1]

you know elision's opinion on hip hop doesn't matter when one of his favorite bars is: "unga bunga bunga ingda bing da binga bunga"

[CanadaPure]

And your entire building slanderin' and abusin'
What I call the realest comin' from a student
Told myself to use a poem as an UZI
Empty magazine, I seen a magazine
You seen my trigger finger, then I started shootin'
That was nicotine, I'm bout to smoke 'em all
And journalists involved should've known my music

What in the world is that about? Let alone fragility.

That's really not that fucking hard to understand at all. Seriously? He's pissed off about what he's seen in magazines and shit since the journalists don't know anything about him, and because he's emotionally fragile about that shit he's going to respond to it by using his music, which he's comparing to a gun, to smoke them all.



It's really not that difficult.

[Snakebeast]

Fragile had a good Tech verse (for Tech, at least). He managed to stay on topic the entire verse (good job, we should probably give him a cookie or something) but the verse as a whole is just mediocre.

Some of the people appointed to give an opinion
Never do get it

Get it? Get what? Classic example of Tech cutting his fucking sentences to make his verse flow better.

I want you to come on and gobble a jimmy and... die

N9na be givin the remedy and why?

The remedy? TO WHAT? Now his sentences have stopped making sense completely. Why WHAT?

Critics are really the enemy and I
Can't stand the way they slam today's gifted

Bit awkward with the phrasing in the first line but at least I understand what the fuck he's trying to say.

get fanned away with grands to pay

The fuck does this mean?

This jam will lay scripted
Deaf and impeccable

Okay, I'm guessing that by "jam" he means "song" and "will lay scripted" means that it'll stay on the pad, meaning the artist. But the next line doesn't make any fucking sense. WHAT is "deaf and impeccable"? The song? Is this personification? If so it doesn't make any fucking sense. How can a song be deaf?

Write a rhyme and I put everything in a flow
I'm the N9ne I'mma look very mean
When a foe scribe a line but he has never been at a show

So we're switching topics from other underground artists to just Tech. Bit abrupt, but I'm cool with it. These lines flow very well and, thank god, actually make sense.

By the times it'll be better, leave it in the sto

This sentence doesn't even make any fucking sense. By "sto" I'm guessing he means store. So leave it in the store. Maybe leave the CD in the store? But what does "by the times it'll be better" mean?

Cause they wrote nothin' but lies, quotes stuck in my eyes
Amateur writer dissin'

Alright, back on track, Tech is pissed about the critics saying bad things about him and how they're amateur writers. Not bad lines.

Note, however, that so far, even the lines that make perfect sense aren't good in any sense of the word. They're just Tech saying "fuck you" to critics. Not exactly genius.

He's a beginner and hopes for your demise, folks I'mma despise
Never do try to listen

More awkward phrasing, but Tech's talking about how the critic is (surprise surprise) an amateur writer who hasn't listened to his music enough to understand it. Well, maybe you should stop sacrificing everything for random rhyming and flow, Tech. Then people would understand what the fuck you're saying.

It's real - I'm mad
Clueless when you scribble on your pad

See, this is what I want from Tech. No intense rhyming here, but you can actually feel emotion and passion here. Could do without the fucking "rrrr" sound he loves so much though.

How you gonna criticize now with a chisel on your nads sizzling your ad

Not sure if he was trying to say "ad" or "ass". Either way, I'm guessing that Tech is talking about taking a chisel to their gonads. What? Where did he get the chisel from? He's talking about the chisel already being on the writer's "nads", but he makes no mention of this "chisel" any time before this line. Maybe he's talking about this verse being a metaphorical chisel? I don't even fucking know anymore.

You don't really get why I'm so pissed? Understand this:
I'm an artist, and I'm sensitive about my shit

And so Tech ends his mediocre verse with some actual good lines.

[CanadaPure]

Elision just officially lost.

[Rattle1]

"Write a rhyme and I put everything in a flow"

he should put something in the lyrics

[PAINKILLƎR]

[CanadaPure]

"Write a rhyme and I put everything in a flow"

he should put something in the lyrics

[Elision]

I think it's an entire extended metaphor about how Kendrick is going to start going at the critics who he feels unjustly pick on him.

That's really not that fucking hard to understand at all. Seriously? He's pissed off about what he's seen in magazines and shit since the journalists don't know anything about him, and because he's emotionally fragile about that shit he's going to respond to it by using his music, which he's comparing to a gun, to smoke them all.

no no I get the idea, clearly, but what is more than who? and who sees his trigger finger is this like his album cover of his or something? and what was noctine? he says "that was nicotine", but I don't know what he's referring to. also what was that shit about the building? is he referring to the slander or a physical place? and please don't think i'm just over-dissecting, i've never understood these bars. always felt like he's referring to something only the diehard fans would get. rap genius says something about he has to smoke a whole pack of cigarettes before rapping but that seems like a reach.

Some of the people appointed to give an opinion
Never do get it

Get it? Get what? Classic example of Tech cutting his fucking sentences to make his verse flow better.

Get his art. But in this specific instance he's referring to them not getting that he's not lip syncing.

N9na be givin the remedy and why?

The remedy? TO WHAT? Now his sentences have stopped making sense completely. Why WHAT?

The remedy to those fiending for his music.

Critics are really the enemy and I
Can't stand the way they slam today's gifted

Bit awkward with the phrasing in the first line but at least I understand what the fuck he's trying to say.

Don't know how you wouldn't understand what he's saying. He's pretty clear.

get fanned away with grands to pay

The fuck does this mean?

This jam will lay scripted
Deaf and impeccable

Okay, I'm guessing that by "jam" he means "song" and "will lay scripted" means that it'll stay on the pad, meaning the artist. But the next line doesn't make any fucking sense. WHAT is "deaf and impeccable"? The song? Is this personification? If so it doesn't make any fucking sense. How can a song be deaf?

it's def and impeccable. he's referring to this jam called Fragile.

Write a rhyme and I put everything in a flow
I'm the N9ne I'mma look very mean
When a foe scribe a line but he has never been at a show

So we're switching topics from other underground artists to just Tech. Bit abrupt, but I'm cool with it. These lines flow very well and, thank god, actually make sense.

Not switching topics at all, and again tech's wording may be weird but that's always been his style. It almost always makes perfect sense though.

By the times it'll be better, leave it in the sto

This sentence doesn't even make any fucking sense. By "sto" I'm guessing he means store. So leave it in the store. Maybe leave the CD in the store? But what does "by the times it'll be better" mean?

No, he's referring to the LA Times: http://www.ballerstatus.com/2009/04/10/ ... cusations/ which you typically buy in a store.

Cause they wrote nothin' but lies, quotes stuck in my eyes
Amateur writer dissin'

Alright, back on track, Tech is pissed about the critics saying bad things about him and how they're amateur writers. Not bad lines.

Note, however, that so far, even the lines that make perfect sense aren't good in any sense of the word. They're just Tech saying "fuck you" to critics. Not exactly genius.

All of the lines make sense, and he's saying "fuck you" to one critic. Jeff Weiss.

He's a beginner and hopes for your demise, folks I'mma despise
Never do try to listen

More awkward phrasing, but Tech's talking about how the critic is (surprise surprise) an amateur writer who hasn't listened to his music enough to understand it. Well, maybe you should stop sacrificing everything for random rhyming and flow, Tech. Then people would understand what the fuck you're saying.

Not sure how it's awkward, regardless neither the critic nor tech are referring to his lyricism. They're talking about his stage show, and people being able to understand what he's saying so well in fact that he is accused of lip syncing.

How you gonna criticize now with a chisel on your nads sizzling your ad

Not sure if he was trying to say "ad" or "ass". Either way, I'm guessing that Tech is talking about taking a chisel to their gonads. What? Where did he get the chisel from? He's talking about the chisel already being on the writer's "nads", but he makes no mention of this "chisel" any time before this line. Maybe he's talking about this verse being a metaphorical chisel? I don't even fucking know anymore.

it's chizzle not chisel.