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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Master Chief » Apr 16th, '11, 19:32

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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 19:32

classthe_king wrote:Well into you can explain why I slit my own throat you're slitting your own throat.


Why do I need to explain why you slit your own throat? There's blood gushing out of your fucking neck and the knife is right there on the floor.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby classthe_king » Apr 16th, '11, 19:33

Satire wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Well into you can explain why I slit my own throat you're slitting your own throat.


Why do I need to explain why you slit your own throat? There's blood gushing out of your fucking neck and the knife is right there on the floor.


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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 19:34

classthe_king wrote:
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classthe_king wrote:Well into you can explain why I slit my own throat you're slitting your own throat.


Why do I need to explain why you slit your own throat? There's blood gushing out of your fucking neck and the knife is right there on the floor.


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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Block » Apr 16th, '11, 19:35

This thread got off topic, I'll just quote myself and say I won this thread by logical debate and sound judgement. Suck my dick.

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KillahBee wrote:No, I'm saying there is an obvious reason why they aren't well known, and its because of their lack of charisma, and the fact they take themselves too seriously, as I said how many albums released by white emcees would be on any publications best of list? THOSE are facts, not you claiming white underground is where the talented rappers are coming from, these guys won't be remembered, and underground music is extremely stale these days compared to Def Jux/Rhymesayers/Rawkus's glory days

BTW, where have I said white rappers aren't talented? All I'm saying is that its obvious the are more "great" black rappers than whites, regardless of your opinion - Jesus its plain to see


Your entire argument is that because they are mainstream they are better. Because they will be "remembered by the masses" they are better? Mc Hammer is remembered, is he better? Soulja boi will be remembered, is he better? Lil flip, lil bowow, all the "lil" clones will be remembered in one way or another because they were on TV or had major deals; are they better?

If you don't understand the term "Per-capita" don't try to argue (apart from your argument being a ridiculous attempt to say that because they are mainstream they're somehow more talented).

I'm going to make up a few numbers which obviously aren't the exact numbers.


25,000 black rappers
1,000 white rappers

500 of the white rappers are DOPE AS FUCK.
5,000 of the black rappers are DOPE AS FUCK.

Because of the fact half of the white rappers are dope and only 1/5th of the black rappers are, per-capita, more white rappers are dope than blacks. Get what I'm saying? I'm not saying that "WHITE RAPPERS ARE BETTER!! UNDERGROUND YO!!" That's ridiculous. I'm saying that based purely on a volume:talent ratio, whites heavily outweigh blacks in the talent department. And mainstream has absolutely nothing to do with it. Eminem had to change his entire image to sell in the mainstream. There's an astounding amount of talent that will never go mainstream simply because they don't have the look. Those are facts.

You have to admit that 99% of what is played on the radio (which is predominantly black) is shit.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby classthe_king » Apr 16th, '11, 19:35

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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Master Chief » Apr 16th, '11, 19:36

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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 19:36

classthe_king wrote:U mad?


Why would I be mad when I caused you to slit your own throat and commit suicide? :unsure:
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby KillahBee » Apr 16th, '11, 19:37

Block wrote:
KillahBee wrote:No, I'm saying there is an obvious reason why they aren't well known, and its because of their lack of charisma, and the fact they take themselves too seriously, as I said how many albums released by white emcees would be on any publications best of list? THOSE are facts, not you claiming white underground is where the talented rappers are coming from, these guys won't be remembered, and underground music is extremely stale these days compared to Def Jux/Rhymesayers/Rawkus's glory days

BTW, where have I said white rappers aren't talented? All I'm saying is that its obvious the are more "great" black rappers than whites, regardless of your opinion - Jesus its plain to see


Your entire argument is that because they are mainstream they are better. Because they will be "remembered by the masses" they are better? Mc Hammer is remembered, is he better? Soulja boi will be remembered, is he better? Lil flip, lil bowow, all the "lil" clones will be remembered in one way or another because they were on TV or had major deals; are they better?

If you don't understand the term "Per-capita" don't try to argue (apart from your argument being a ridiculous attempt to say that because they are mainstream they're somehow more talented).

I'm going to make up a few numbers which obviously aren't the exact numbers.


25,000 black rappers
1,000 white rappers

500 of the white rappers are DOPE AS FUCK.
5,000 of the black rappers are DOPE AS FUCK.

Because of the fact half of the white rappers are dope and only 1/5th of the black rappers are, per-capita, more white rappers are dope than blacks. Get what I'm saying? I'm not saying that "WHITE RAPPERS ARE BETTER!! UNDERGROUND YO!!" That's ridiculous. I'm saying that based purely on a volume:talent ratio, whites heavily outweigh blacks in the talent department. And mainstream has absolutely nothing to do with it. Eminem had to change his entire image to sell in the mainstream. There's an astounding amount of talent that will never go mainstream simply because they don't have the look. Those are facts.

You have to admit that 99% of what is played on the radio (which is predominantly black) is shit.


Are you actually reading what I'm typing? I said there are more famous black rappers than white because they have more charisma and don't themselves anywhere near as seriously in their music, where have I said mainstream rappers are more talented because they're famous? Where have I wrote this?

You said its a FACT ,that white rappers make higher quality music than black rapppers, this whole "per capita" shit wasn't in the post I originally quoted, as you can see from my first post in this thread, whether or not you edited your post or not I don't know, but it wasn't present when I quoted it

Ok, I'm obviously wasting my time here, but for the 3rd time how many albums released by white rappers would be on any "best of" lists? Even look up "best underground rap albums" or whatever, 90% of said lists are DOMINATED by black artists. So again, where are these so called facts? Also, how the hell do you come to the conclusion that 1 in every two white rappers are dope as fuck? Thats an OPINION not a fact, which was my whole point in the first place - can you back up the claims you made in the post I first quoted?
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby classthe_king » Apr 16th, '11, 19:37

because you have no comeback against me :unsure:
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 19:38

classthe_king wrote:because you have no comeback against me :unsure:


Because you said their flow is "boring" when that is obviously not an objective statement plus made a retarded mistake after claiming to listen to Stankonia? :unsure:

Yeah, I lost.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby classthe_king » Apr 16th, '11, 19:39

Satire wrote:
classthe_king wrote:because you have no comeback against me :unsure:


Because you said their flow is "boring" when that is obviously not an objective statement plus made a retarded mistake after claiming to listen to Stankonia? :unsure:

Yeah, I lost.


Shut up.


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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 19:39

classthe_king wrote:
Satire wrote:
classthe_king wrote:because you have no comeback against me :unsure:


Because you said their flow is "boring" when that is obviously not an objective statement plus made a retarded mistake after claiming to listen to Stankonia? :unsure:

Yeah, I lost.


Shut up.


I quit.


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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby classthe_king » Apr 16th, '11, 19:41

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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Satire » Apr 16th, '11, 19:43

Since we're in the debate of good white rappers vs. good black ones.

Tech N9ne vs. Sadistik :shifty:
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