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There are more good white rappers than black

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 16th, '11, 17:23

This statement was recently made by Mister Class, once again proving how delusional he is about the world of hip hop. I'm not turning this into a racial issue in the sense of "black rappers are inherently better than white rappers." No, that'd be ignorant. But, its a legit FACT, there have been more good black rappers than there have been good white rappers.
So, if Class really wants to back up what he says, here's what we gonna do. We're gonna go back and forth listing 10 good/decent rappers, mine black his white. First person who can't respond with a full list loses.

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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby slimshadylappin » Apr 16th, '11, 17:27

I don't think anyone is stupid enough to argue about this
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Block » Apr 16th, '11, 17:31

The majority of white rappers make higher quality music. Fact. Statistically, there are more good white rappers than black. If we're judging percentages per-capita.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Cube23 » Apr 16th, '11, 17:35

Aesop Rock
Slug
Brother Ali
Apathy
RA The Rugged Man
Eminem
Cage
El-P
Mac Miller
Sage Francis

I think they make pretty good music.. But after that, someone's list would probably really start to get weak. Of course there are more good black emcees. It's dominated by black people.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 16th, '11, 17:38

slimshadylappin wrote:I don't think anyone is stupid enough to argue about this

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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby One Mic » Apr 16th, '11, 17:45

classthe_queen is a closet racist who faps over white YouTube rappers who used big words and 'clever' wordplay, despite how boring it sounds in terms of flow and their mic presence...because he knows if his parents caught him listening to real hip-hop, they would slap him up. Any middle class white boy who is bullied and scared of black people in real life.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby KillahBee » Apr 16th, '11, 17:45

Block wrote:The majority of white rappers make higher quality music. Fact.

How?

If you look at any publiciations "best of" lists, whether its "best hip hop albums of alll time", "best albums of the /1980s1990s/2000s", etc, how many album will there be that were made by white rappers?

The most famous rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the most critical acclaimed rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the highest selling rappers, minus Eminem, are black

Its like trying to argue that white boxers have been better than black ones for the last 60 years when it blantantly isn't true

The only thing the majority of white rappers do is take themselves too seriously, lack charisma and are actually mainly listened to by other white people (I'm white btw)
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 16th, '11, 17:48

KillahBee wrote:How?

If you look at any publiciations "best of" lists, whether its "best hip hop albums of alll time", "best albums of the /1980s1990s/2000s", etc, how many album will there be that were made by white rappers?

The most famous rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the most critical acclaimed rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the highest selling rappers, minus Eminem, are black

Its like trying to argue that white boxers have been better than black ones for the last 60 years when it blantantly isn't true

The only thing the majority of white rappers do is take themselves too seriously, lack charisma and are actually mainly listened to by other white people (I'm white btw)

Yo, don't make this into a bigger issue than it is. There are dope white rappers. All I'm saying is there are MORE dope black dudes than white, whatever the reason may be.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby KillahBee » Apr 16th, '11, 17:51

FreeSpeech wrote:
KillahBee wrote:How?

If you look at any publiciations "best of" lists, whether its "best hip hop albums of alll time", "best albums of the /1980s1990s/2000s", etc, how many album will there be that were made by white rappers?

The most famous rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the most critical acclaimed rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the highest selling rappers, minus Eminem, are black

Its like trying to argue that white boxers have been better than black ones for the last 60 years when it blantantly isn't true

The only thing the majority of white rappers do is take themselves too seriously, lack charisma and are actually mainly listened to by other white people (I'm white btw)

Yo, don't make this into a bigger issue than it is. There are dope white rappers. All I'm saying is there are MORE dope black dudes than white, whatever the reason may be.


Yeah man, and I agree, but to leave the comment like the one I replied to is jus mind boggling to me, only on this forum would such bullshit be typed up, what part of my post do you I'm being harsh about?
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Block » Apr 16th, '11, 17:53

KillahBee wrote:
Block wrote:The majority of white rappers make higher quality music. Fact.

How?

If you look at any publiciations "best of" lists, whether its "best hip hop albums of alll time", "best albums of the /1980s1990s/2000s", etc, how many album will there be that were made by white rappers?

The most famous rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the most critical acclaimed rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the highest selling rappers, minus Eminem, are black

Its like trying to argue that white boxers have been better than black ones for the last 60 years when it blantantly isn't true

The only thing the majority of white rappers do is take themselves too seriously, lack charisma and are actually mainly listened to by other white people (I'm white btw)


Your argument is beyond futile. You're saying that just because the majority of white rappers aren't mainstream or very well known, they aren't extremely talented? That's a ridiculous statement. the majority of white rappers are underground emcees. The majority of the underground is white rappers. Per-capita, the white talent-pool is much, much better.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby KillahBee » Apr 16th, '11, 18:00

Block wrote:
KillahBee wrote:
Block wrote:The majority of white rappers make higher quality music. Fact.

How?

If you look at any publiciations "best of" lists, whether its "best hip hop albums of alll time", "best albums of the /1980s1990s/2000s", etc, how many album will there be that were made by white rappers?

The most famous rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the most critical acclaimed rappers, minus Eminem, are black, the highest selling rappers, minus Eminem, are black

Its like trying to argue that white boxers have been better than black ones for the last 60 years when it blantantly isn't true

The only thing the majority of white rappers do is take themselves too seriously, lack charisma and are actually mainly listened to by other white people (I'm white btw)


Your argument is beyond futile. You're saying that just because the majority of white rappers aren't mainstream or very well known, they aren't extremely talented? That's a ridiculous statement. the majority of white rappers are underground emcees. The majority of the underground is white rappers. Per-capita, the white talent-pool is much, much better.

No, I'm saying there is an obvious reason why they aren't well known, and its because of their lack of charisma, and the fact they take themselves too seriously, as I said how many albums released by white emcees would be on any publications best of list? THOSE are facts, not you claiming white underground is where the talented rappers are coming from, these guys won't be remembered, and underground music is extremely stale these days compared to Def Jux/Rhymesayers/Rawkus's glory days

BTW, where have I said white rappers aren't talented? All I'm saying is that its obvious the are more "great" black rappers than whites, regardless of your opinion - Jesus its plain to see
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby FreeSpeech » Apr 16th, '11, 18:01

KillahBee wrote:Yeah man, and I agree, but to leave the comment like the one I replied to is jus mind boggling to me, only on this forum would such bullshit be typed up, what part of my post do you I'm being harsh about?

Nothing, it was pretty much all true haha, but we don't need a bunch of butthurt suburban kids whining about how white rappers are so much better. This thread is devoted to the proof of Class as a idiot with no actual knowledge of hip hop.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby KillahBee » Apr 16th, '11, 18:06

FreeSpeech wrote:
KillahBee wrote:Yeah man, and I agree, but to leave the comment like the one I replied to is jus mind boggling to me, only on this forum would such bullshit be typed up, what part of my post do you I'm being harsh about?

Nothing, it was pretty much all true haha, but we don't need a bunch of butthurt suburban kids whining about how white rappers are so much better. This thread is devoted to the proof of Class as a idiot with no actual knowledge of hip hop.

Ha ok, sorry man wasn't trying to derail the idea behind your thread - I actually only read your full post after I commented in here :zipped:
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Apr 16th, '11, 18:07

Black Rappers shit on the MAJORITY of white rappers.
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Re: There are more good white rappers than black

Postby Robbie G » Apr 16th, '11, 18:09

Sadistik, Spoonfull, Slug, Mac Lethal, Vinnie Paz, Macklemore, Mike Shinoda, Eminem, Eyedea etc...

I have nothing against black rappers, but most of my favorites are white. It's not even a race thing, just musically they are superior.

J. Cole, however, might be my favorite rapper and he's black...
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