Did Jay-Z fall off?

[gutawafang]

nah. he didn't fall off. he's just getting boring. He always collabs with the same artists like beyonce and kanye. BORRINGGG

[Almostlity]

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imo. D.O.A was the hottest song of 2009, everything about it is just crazy.

Hov has been and always will be, in my Top 3 rappers of all-time.

[Man1x]

I agree with you, but I prefer Kendrick Lamar more and Jay-Z is not my #1. However, from a business stand point he is the best.

[12characters]

Yes, but nowhere near as bad as Em.. or Anthony Kiedis.

[SG.]

Blueprint 3 was my first rap album.

No, he didn't fall off.

[Slim Fiasco]

I don't have a well-thought opinion on the Blueprint 3 so I can't say much about it. I've been listening to Jay a lot lately though, and that album was just about to get its turn so I'll check it out soon. Anyway, I think Jay's been very consistent through out his career and he definitely hasn't fallen off. That's not to say that he's in his prime but he sounds just about the same as always.

Jay is lucky to have such a great and distinctive voice, otherwise his flow would've gotten boring a long time ago, given that he hasn't changed it a lot. But that's what works for him the best and I'm OK with it.

[TheGentlePlayer]

Nobody "purposely fell back" on a album. It's just that they just can't do better at that time.

[Blu]

Everybody knows Kingdom Come sucked ass, but let's ignore that.

Then why the hell can't everyone ignore Encore?

[Almostlity]

Nobody "purposely fell back" on a album. It's just that they just can't do better at that time.

A retard can tell that Ye was the mastermind behind the whole WTT-era.. everything between damn recording locations to album cover

[12characters]

Everybody knows Kingdom Come sucked ass, but let's ignore that.

Then why the hell can't everyone ignore Encore?

I think cream does

[Slim Fiasco]

I don't have a well-thought opinion on the Blueprint 3 so I can't say much about it. I've been listening to Jay a lot lately though, and that album was just about to get its turn so I'll check it out soon. Anyway, I think Jay's been very consistent through out his career and he definitely hasn't fallen off. That's not to say that he's in his prime but he sounds just about the same as always.

Jay is lucky to have such a great and distinctive voice, otherwise his flow would've gotten boring a long time ago, given that he hasn't changed it a lot. But that's what works for him the best and I'm OK with it.

Be sure to write about it when you bump it soon bro, you know I'm interested in your opinion.

I believe that Jay-Z comes up with new flows in almost every track and sometimes even verses, his Thank You verses are an example of what I'm talking about .. and how On To The Next (For example) has a different flow than D.O.A while on the same album, The Black Album was entirely different from American Gangster or The Blueprint II for example, and other shit. But yeah, people can disagree on that, it's not really that big of a difference. And maybe even like you said it's Jay's voice that made his flow sound so good.

Sure thing man! And yeah, Jay and Snoop's voices are just amazing. Even if they change the pace of their delivery, my mind will still be on the melody of their voice, and sometimes I can't even concentrate on the lyrics. Maybe that's why I haven't noticed as big of a difference as you.

Btw, what do you think about Jay pre-Reasonable-Doubt? I think the difference there is more obvious, and I simply love the work he did with Big L. That's a small package of history right there, even though only one freestyle and a song got recorded. But can you imagine L on Roc-A-Fella records, doing stuff with Kanye and Jay? That would be....

[BILI]

He was never really that good anyway.

[DƎRDYPK]

He was never really that good anyway.

yup, nigga only rap bout cars, chains, & hoes, wit his having R&B singers on his hooks ass

therefore he no good, that's the hard knock life

[BILI]

He was never really that good anyway.

yup, ***** only rap bout cars, chains, & hoes, wit his having R&B singers on his hooks ass

therefore he no good, that's the hard knock life

see how pk knows his shit

[Slim Fiasco]

Big L's best work so far tbh, too bad he's gone so young.

I haven't really checked everything Jay did pre-Reasonable Doubt, I did check some Jaz-O features, other random features (I recall a feature with Big L called Graveyard) and some freestyles, some battles with LL Cool J, and some tracks like Reach The Top and I Can't Get With That which was pretty amazing for his first "official" track, didn't think Jay could go faster than he went on ***** What ***** Who even though I like NWNW better. It's funny that Jay-Z was original even with his first tracks instead of starting out like a kid who's influenced by other rappers with no real personality .. He was pretty good back in the day, but I'll be honest and say that I actually prefer WTT's Jay-Z more than pre-Reasonable Doubt's, I don't know, probably have something to do with versatility.

Yeah, Jay has always stood out on tracks. And you're on point with Da Graveyard. His verse on it is pure awesomeness. There were also talks that Big L and Jay used to set up battles between each other('s crews), and bet money on it. Or so it happened on one occurrence, but Big L and his guys didn't have the money. L can be seen in the background during that Jay-Z and DMX battle (though the footage is short and part of some documentary) around some pool table. It'd be great to see that whole thing, but as I type this, I recalled that the guys weren't allowed to continue filming due to some record label bullshit, or something like that; so such footage probably doesn't exist.

WTT Jay is good though, I'm not surprised with your preference.