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jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby Elision » Oct 16th, '14, 11:03

i have tried, and tried and tried, and still can't get into jay-z. he comes off as this super smooth, nate dogg-esque mob boss type character, but he just sucks dick at rapping. like major major fucking dick, worse than current wayne i'd say. which is what makes me wonder how he's come this far and is such a timeless icon in hiphop. his skill-to-praise ratio is simply unmatched. now, i understand, not all rap is striving for ultimate lyrical complexity, but that's usually because it's focused on doing something else. Jay-Z does nothing. His music is pure filler and nothing more, he's never actually saying anything. he's the fucking lettuce in the burrito that is hiphop. he does nothing but look nice. somebody please explain to me how this guy has managed to remain relevant for so long

edit: oh and his stage show is woat
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby King Lance » Oct 16th, '14, 11:05

so hes overrated because YOU can't get into him?

Jay-Z in his prime is a top rapper, incredible lyricism, incredible flows, incredibly good albums


Elision wrote:His music is pure filler and nothing more, he's never actually saying anything. he's the fucking lettuce in the burrito that is hiphop. he does nothing but look nice.



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Go listen to Reasonable Doubt... the shit that jay kicked up here is viscious. He hits u with metaphors similes double entedres multisylables and witty lyrics.

Nobody had more quotables than jay in his prime imo
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby DƎRDYPK » Oct 16th, '14, 11:05

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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby Elision » Oct 16th, '14, 11:10

True Wiz wrote:Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint 1, The Black Album and American Gangster are fucking amazing albums.
haven't heard reasonable doubt or american gangster but if they're anything like any of the blueprints or the black album i stand by my statement.
King Lance wrote:so hes overrated because YOU can't get into him?
no no, don't get me twisted here. he's overrated because there's objectively no reason to call him a good rapper, let alone one of the greatest of all time. there's no aspect of rap that he excels in besides somehow managing to remain relevant through so much garbo
King Lance wrote:incredible lyricism, incredible flows
link me one song that actually gets my head rocking, jay z flows like turtles fuck.
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby Elision » Oct 16th, '14, 11:20

True Wiz wrote:Listen to Dead Presidents II and tell me that isn't one of the best Hip Hop songs ever recorded.
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yeah this is dope. wouldn't say one of the best songs ever but worth a replay for sure. this shit's 20 years old though, i wouldn't be complaining if this were the jay z we have today.

edit: didn't see you said #2, i don't like that one as much as the original dead presidents. don't like it at all actually. but yeah dead presidents 1 is the first thing i've heard from jay that sounds good
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby King Lance » Oct 16th, '14, 11:27

Elision wrote: he's overrated because there's objectively no reason to call him a good rapper, let alone one of the greatest of all time.



You don't even believe the bs you just said

Jay-Z has some of the best quotables of all time, this alone proves that he was a great lyricist. people were quoting his punchlines, double entendres and metaphors all the time.

The most overrated rapper would be the one people call a "GOAT" despite never having an album that stood the test of time... an artist with zero impact or relevance in the hip hop culture.








edit: holy shit... you just said this is the first time you listen Dead Presidents II lol. It means you have yet to listen to Reasonable Doubt.

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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby mdemaz » Oct 16th, '14, 11:43

nah hes pretty good

probably not as good as nas or whatever but hes got a smooth voice
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby Steelez » Oct 16th, '14, 11:46

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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Oct 16th, '14, 12:21

Dumbass.
The devil ain't on a level same as him!
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby stylzjaw » Oct 16th, '14, 12:44

Devil'sAdvocate wrote:Dumbass.
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby Fleka » Oct 16th, '14, 13:57

Not a big jay Z fan, but he is one of the greatest ever.
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby Fleka » Oct 16th, '14, 13:57

Not a big jay Z fan, but he is one of the greatest ever.
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby TRSL » Oct 16th, '14, 14:20

He has three 10/10 albums and his live performances are great. If you haven't listened to Reasonable Doubt or Blueprint 1 you shouldn't judge.
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby Raul » Oct 16th, '14, 14:23

True Wiz wrote:Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint 1, The Black Album and American Gangster are fucking amazing albums.

He's nothing like Lil Wayne and he's one of the best rappers to ever touch a mic.
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Re: jay z is the most overrated rapper

Postby TheBoss123 » Oct 16th, '14, 15:05

I used to not like Jay z either but you really have to sit down and listen to his music. If you intend on actually giving him a chance I suggest listening to his first 3 albums with Rapgenius open like I did to try and really invest yourself in the listening process. He's not the greatest rapper ever but he's certainly up there, you don't stay relevant for as long as he has by being "objectively" bad. I don't believe he's been popular this long simply because of charisma.

It's also possible you just don't like his music. His charisma and wordplay were top notch for a long time. He's not a master at every aspect of rapping but he's still very good.
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