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hip hops not neccessarily dead....jus lost.

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hip hops not neccessarily dead....jus lost.

Postby spitz » Jan 5th, '07, 08:45

heres my thoughts.....hip hop started as emceein, beatboxin, breakdeancin, and graffiti...but somewhere along the way, it turned to bustin guns, sellin crack, fuckin hoes n smokin weed. not while thats not bad....its all anybody hears. ask krs-1 if whats goin on now is hip hop, ask rakim. i mean, itd be better if we had good lyricists, but we dont. we have jeezy, joc, and all these new "sensations" the south.

for awhile, nothin was the same. say, round 2000, u had the next episode, the way i am, big pimpin, southern hospitality, mrs jackson... all good records, and had distinct charicterisitics to them. but now a days, everything is the same.

then for wahile we had AMAZING lyricists, big pun (a uncredited legend), eminem, luda, nas, jay and many others...but now nobodys lyrical no more, its jus do whats sellin.

my point is, hip hop isnt dead, its lost. you have people still doin real hip hop, such as mos def, talib kweli, nas, royce...but sadly, they get little to no recognition, minus nas. And theres people out that could very well change hip hop, sly boogy (one of the most lyrical motherfuckers ive ever heard, and can make a great club record), royce, sticky fingaz...but i doubt this will happen. hip hop is not dead....its been kidnapped.
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Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jan 5th, '07, 14:38

nas's album name made everyone think its completely dead..including myself but you got to realize ti aint dead it just aint mainstream...and if the real hip hop artists wanted to be big mainstream they could easily i mean

how quick could royce da 59 write a sick clubanger get in a nice lady for a hook add a bangnig beat and itd sell....how easy could nas right something like the south, like jeezy ? these artists could do that and sell millions but they dont coz it aint real hip hop , dam the onyl reason eminem aint still stuck underground was on lucky break the reason he stayed at the top is 2 reason 1. coz he as white , thats basically one of the only reason he stayed good in uk i still knwo ppl that only listen to eminem they dont like rap but they listen to eminem coz hes white...and 2. coz he balanced mindless clubanger and sick song together , everyone here hates fack but lots of ppl loved it coz it was funny and catchy , lots of ppl dislike shake that hundreds of ppl love shake that coz its a club song....

it aint the artists fault hip hop is dead so you cant blame jeezy or anybody , there jsut tryna make there money right...its the people buying it, and if the artists you named who should be the best right now wanted to be they could sell millions but they dont through there own choice
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Postby AspirinE » Jan 5th, '07, 17:11

hip as a culture dead, it might resurect though.

But the way i see it, its the peoples stupidity that killed hip hop, some people are still too stupid too apreciate art. But as people grow up, who knows what might become, because the kids that are now dicriding a certain artist that aint worth shit, will later prolly stumble upon better music.


Id have no problem with this new southern tendancy, if it didnt blantly deprive people who obviously deserve the credits and the paper more.
To me personally, hip hop never dies, i still listen to shit from 1992 with delight, and as much i have already collected i still have many records more to discover and hear.
who aint liking what u hearing on tv and radio, should go back in time, if uve never tried that, trust me, ull discover a different abstract view on hip hop.


Big ups to GURU, who still tries to keep the funk and jazz legacy alive in his hip hop... without funk and jazz, hip hop sounds very vague.
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Postby 4D » Jan 5th, '07, 18:14

ASP wrote:Big ups to GURU, who still tries to keep the funk and jazz legacy alive in his hip hop... without funk and jazz, hip hop sounds very vague.


Guru's always been a good lyricist but, it's the jazzy sound that puts me off his music, I do like the funky hip-hop beats though they're the best.

Of course hip-hop isnt dead, it's reached too many people over the years, created too much great music, and as an artform rap has earned it's permanent place in music history. But, it isn`t dead yet, it's just asleep, waiting for the next classic album to come along, something that stinks of the creative juices of a "Paid In Full" or an "Illmatic". That time will come, because music, no matter how much overdone and played out it can seem to get, somehow finds a way to revolutionise and progress.

With artists like Nas out there, telling all other wannabee rap legends, how it should be done, it might come sooner than later.

I listened to Rakim's 18th letter and The Master (For about the millionth time) last night in work. As long as there's great works of art like that out there, there's always something alive in hip-hop, I hope some more of the great rappers out there like Nas, can take the hint and start bringing it back to basics, 'cos if that happens there's always hope of a hip-hop resuccitation.
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Postby mdeuce » Jan 8th, '07, 19:14

hip-hop's not dead. it's just hidden

the underground scene is HOT
2007 is going to be HUGE for the mainstream
Current hip-hop = WWE
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