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T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby lil_bayly » Jan 26th, '10, 22:05

T.I.'s legal troubles seem to never end. Now the Grammy winning Southern rapper is being sued by Nathan Filby, stage name Motoe Blizzid, for allegedly stealing the Grammy winning song "What You Know".

Nathan, currently represented by One LLP, claims the 2006 hit record samples portions of his 2004 track Reverence. Nathan states Reverence was shipped to a number of industry insiders before making its way to Relentless Management, who reportedly works with T.I. In court documents One LLP and Nathan have even presented an algorithm that claims to show the two songs similarities scientifically.

Filby, seeking a trail by jury, wants all the profits derived from What You Know, which was featured on T.I.'s album King.
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby Jay-19 » Jan 26th, '10, 22:08

Can't they just let it go when people samples their music? I mean, almost everybody does it. :shakehead:
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby Emadyville » Jan 26th, '10, 22:22

Jay-19 wrote:Can't they just let it go when people samples their music? I mean, almost everybody does it. :shakehead:


Nah, that's intellectual property, we have laws for a reason :shakehead:
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby embm » Jan 26th, '10, 22:56

poor guy
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby Kosovic » Jan 26th, '10, 23:45

Jay-19 wrote:Can't they just let it go when people samples their music? I mean, almost everybody does it. :shakehead:


O rly? You would just lend someone your property? Make him a Grammy winner out of your work?
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby Jay-19 » Jan 27th, '10, 17:39

Kosovic wrote:
Jay-19 wrote:Can't they just let it go when people samples their music? I mean, almost everybody does it. :shakehead:


O rly? You would just lend someone your property? Make him a Grammy winner out of your work?



Don't know... don't care.

It's never gonna happen to me anyway.
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jan 27th, '10, 17:59

been happening in the industry for years, rappers send demo's a manager hears it then shows it to a already stablished rapper who makes it there hit single. happens with lines beats ect.


thats why you got to be clued up so when it does happen you got a battle to fight, thats why you should copywrite ya shit
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 27th, '10, 19:18

This is unfair on T.I. though.

T.I. didn't produce the fucking track, DJ Toonp did. So he stole it, not T.I.

It's like when Dre got sued for stealing that french pianists' melody for "Kill You" without clearing it but the guy sued Eminem and it was published as if Eminem stole it.

When these idiots sue, why not sue the real targets.

I mean well, obviously they probably usually wanna aim at the artist for more chance of public support / exposure and a bigger payout. But Dre is rich as fuck. Unfair on the artist when it's the producer.
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby ,-,'-{Bar}-',-, » Jan 27th, '10, 19:55

EminemBase wrote:This is unfair on T.I. though.

T.I. didn't produce the fucking track, DJ Toonp did. So he stole it, not T.I.

It's like when Dre got sued for stealing that french pianists' melody for "Kill You" without clearing it but the guy sued Eminem and it was published as if Eminem stole it.

When these idiots sue, why not sue the real targets.

I mean well, obviously they probably usually wanna aim at the artist for more chance of public support / exposure and a bigger payout. But Dre is rich as fuck. Unfair on the artist when it's the producer.



your clearly not familiar with how this shit works.

the artists purchases the beat, so it is then that artists beat they have the copyright. producers just make the beat then sell it then claim royalties from it (in your bog standard 90% of transactions). so if the artist doesnt do the background to make sure everything on the beat is legal then buy it they are liable for it.

a guy sells you sherbet, you dont ask questions and buy it, police catch you and you find out its actually cocain your still getting arrested for possession of drugs, its the law.
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby EminemBase » Jan 28th, '10, 00:24

,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:
EminemBase wrote:This is unfair on T.I. though.

T.I. didn't produce the fucking track, DJ Toonp did. So he stole it, not T.I.

It's like when Dre got sued for stealing that french pianists' melody for "Kill You" without clearing it but the guy sued Eminem and it was published as if Eminem stole it.

When these idiots sue, why not sue the real targets.

I mean well, obviously they probably usually wanna aim at the artist for more chance of public support / exposure and a bigger payout. But Dre is rich as fuck. Unfair on the artist when it's the producer.



your clearly not familiar with how this shit works.

the artists purchases the beat, so it is then that artists beat they have the copyright. producers just make the beat then sell it then claim royalties from it (in your bog standard 90% of transactions). so if the artist doesnt do the background to make sure everything on the beat is legal then buy it they are liable for it.

a guy sells you sherbet, you dont ask questions and buy it, police catch you and you find out its actually cocain your still getting arrested for possession of drugs, its the law.


Yes I am familiar with how it works.

But with say Em and Dre. They're on the same label, Eminem doesn't fucking buy beats off Dr. Dre every time. They all work together in the same studio.

So when Dre puts a track on an Em album, it's Dre's credit, Dre's stamp and Dre's responsibility. It's up to the producer to source their stolen shit and get it fucking passed. Especially of that calibre.
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Re: T.I. Accused Of Stealing "What You Know"

Postby Relapse.LP » Jan 28th, '10, 00:53

EminemBase wrote:
,-,'-{Bar}-',-, wrote:
EminemBase wrote:This is unfair on T.I. though.

T.I. didn't produce the fucking track, DJ Toonp did. So he stole it, not T.I.

It's like when Dre got sued for stealing that french pianists' melody for "Kill You" without clearing it but the guy sued Eminem and it was published as if Eminem stole it.

When these idiots sue, why not sue the real targets.

I mean well, obviously they probably usually wanna aim at the artist for more chance of public support / exposure and a bigger payout. But Dre is rich as fuck. Unfair on the artist when it's the producer.



your clearly not familiar with how this shit works.

the artists purchases the beat, so it is then that artists beat they have the copyright. producers just make the beat then sell it then claim royalties from it (in your bog standard 90% of transactions). so if the artist doesnt do the background to make sure everything on the beat is legal then buy it they are liable for it.

a guy sells you sherbet, you dont ask questions and buy it, police catch you and you find out its actually cocain your still getting arrested for possession of drugs, its the law.


Yes I am familiar with how it works.

But with say Em and Dre. They're on the same label, Eminem doesn't fucking buy beats off Dr. Dre every time. They all work together in the same studio.

So when Dre puts a track on an Em album, it's Dre's credit, Dre's stamp and Dre's responsibility. It's up to the producer to source their stolen shit and get it fucking passed. Especially of that calibre.

Eminem and Dr. Dre is a special case. Not every rapper has a team-up producer.
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