One Mic wrote:vivaldiwasasellout wrote:You are so boring. I repeat what I said about Pete Rock.
If Recovery (new Em) is so crap why all these dope people want to work with Marshall?

Most music artists in the world (and producers) would like to work with Eminem....because he is the highest selling artist of the last decade, has the highest selling album of 2010, has a massive loyal fanbase, and is a worldwide superstar.
The quality of Eminem's music is insignificant, as if you work with Eminem, you are bound to get attention just on the back of his name alone.
(I loved Recovery btw, before you attack me as a "eminem hater")
I'm just saying it how it is.
I don't fully agree with that.
I think most of the artists who generally want to work with him want to due to his talent. And, whether people want to call Recovery shit or not - it's mostly because of production and structure.
And whichever way you slice it, the man is still a freakishly talented writer and rapper, he's robotic and has taken rap and lyricism to incredible heights throughout his career. And, just think of who he once was, never before have I seen a piece of reactionary art so perfectly capitalized as I have The Marshall Mathers LP. The whole event was totally ingenious.
People so easily forget how witty and innovative he was / is / can be.
And, once you reach that kind of stature in people's minds, it takes a lot to destroy that. Take multiple child molestion allegations against MJ for example (and I don't believe he is guilty, having looked into it) - but even that didn't waver most people's admiration for him.
So, when you consider that... if people here seriously think some shitty beats or corny punchlines are going to waver the average music listener's or artist's perception of Eminem they must be retarded lmao. Because, we all also have to remember, the AVERAGE Eminem fan, or AVERAGE rap fan or even AVID music fan - is not as critical or concerned with detail of lyricism as people here.
Eminem's whole MO is lyricism and his true fans obsess over it, myself included. As do die hard hip-hop fans too, as that's what hip-hop is about but, a lot of genres do not focus on that aspect anywhere near as much but Eminem is an incredible artistic mind outside of puns or rhyming.
So, even outside of his more shaky lyrical moments of late or, subpar beats - that does not waver other artist's image of him. He's still making credible music, and he's still seen as an incredibly integral, groundbreaking artist with a shitload of mystique and aura. A lot of artists want to work with him because he represents exactly what an artist should be, and everything they want to be and wish they could be. He's like an enigma, a rubix cube. So, they want to be around that, work with it, feed off it, get inspired by it etc.
Now with more pop-directed artists I agree, I'm sure that they're partially 'inspired' by Em's numbers and commercial draw but don't forget, many of those kind of people also CONFUSE popularity for respect anyway and seem to think Eminem is great for that reason too. So it doesn't necessarily mean they're just thinking in a manipulative fashion about it....
Unrelated point but, I mentioned the fact he's seen as mysterious etc. and, it's also pretty amazing how... how crude and apparently tasteless and limitless he can be in his music, when in-character etc. and yet in the public eye he preserves an image of class and intelligence in people's minds.
Which just shows what an incredible job he's done of separating Eminem 'the artist' and Eminem 'the rapper'. Just like you may see an actor portray a rapist and yet they become themselves again of course, in real life. Em creates realistic, violent melodrama, within his own world and psyche and yet, returns to class in real life. Like for example in the Chrysler ad...
Because think of how strange it is that he raps about raping women and eating babies and yet, in that commercial he looks normal and classy and the whole ad serves to imply that image, with the slow-burn stylistic visuals etc. and it totally works. Where as, if you tried that with say Mike Tyson... not so much lmao.