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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby Guess_Who » May 7th, '11, 15:29

vivaldiwasasellout wrote:It seems Em was not there.
He was supposed to make the fourth round selection for the Lions, but someone said they trade it away.
Barry Sanders made the first pick (Titus Young), and a Lions fan (not Eminem) made the second one (Mikel Leshoure)

So I don't understand :confusion:


but maybe he was anyway to see the game ...according to that guy (I don´t know who he is )he was there...
is strange that there is no picture,so no idea...
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby EminemBase » May 7th, '11, 23:48

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vivaldiwasasellout wrote:You are so boring. I repeat what I said about Pete Rock.
If Recovery (new Em) is so crap why all these dope people want to work with Marshall? :coffee:

Most music artists in the world (and producers) would like to work with Eminem....because he is the highest selling artist of the last decade, has the highest selling album of 2010, has a massive loyal fanbase, and is a worldwide superstar.

The quality of Eminem's music is insignificant, as if you work with Eminem, you are bound to get attention just on the back of his name alone.

(I loved Recovery btw, before you attack me as a "eminem hater")

I'm just saying it how it is.


I don't fully agree with that.

I think most of the artists who generally want to work with him want to due to his talent. And, whether people want to call Recovery shit or not - it's mostly because of production and structure.

And whichever way you slice it, the man is still a freakishly talented writer and rapper, he's robotic and has taken rap and lyricism to incredible heights throughout his career. And, just think of who he once was, never before have I seen a piece of reactionary art so perfectly capitalized as I have The Marshall Mathers LP. The whole event was totally ingenious.

People so easily forget how witty and innovative he was / is / can be.

And, once you reach that kind of stature in people's minds, it takes a lot to destroy that. Take multiple child molestion allegations against MJ for example (and I don't believe he is guilty, having looked into it) - but even that didn't waver most people's admiration for him.

So, when you consider that... if people here seriously think some shitty beats or corny punchlines are going to waver the average music listener's or artist's perception of Eminem they must be retarded lmao. Because, we all also have to remember, the AVERAGE Eminem fan, or AVERAGE rap fan or even AVID music fan - is not as critical or concerned with detail of lyricism as people here.

Eminem's whole MO is lyricism and his true fans obsess over it, myself included. As do die hard hip-hop fans too, as that's what hip-hop is about but, a lot of genres do not focus on that aspect anywhere near as much but Eminem is an incredible artistic mind outside of puns or rhyming.

So, even outside of his more shaky lyrical moments of late or, subpar beats - that does not waver other artist's image of him. He's still making credible music, and he's still seen as an incredibly integral, groundbreaking artist with a shitload of mystique and aura. A lot of artists want to work with him because he represents exactly what an artist should be, and everything they want to be and wish they could be. He's like an enigma, a rubix cube. So, they want to be around that, work with it, feed off it, get inspired by it etc.

Now with more pop-directed artists I agree, I'm sure that they're partially 'inspired' by Em's numbers and commercial draw but don't forget, many of those kind of people also CONFUSE popularity for respect anyway and seem to think Eminem is great for that reason too. So it doesn't necessarily mean they're just thinking in a manipulative fashion about it....

Unrelated point but, I mentioned the fact he's seen as mysterious etc. and, it's also pretty amazing how... how crude and apparently tasteless and limitless he can be in his music, when in-character etc. and yet in the public eye he preserves an image of class and intelligence in people's minds.

Which just shows what an incredible job he's done of separating Eminem 'the artist' and Eminem 'the rapper'. Just like you may see an actor portray a rapist and yet they become themselves again of course, in real life. Em creates realistic, violent melodrama, within his own world and psyche and yet, returns to class in real life. Like for example in the Chrysler ad...

Because think of how strange it is that he raps about raping women and eating babies and yet, in that commercial he looks normal and classy and the whole ad serves to imply that image, with the slow-burn stylistic visuals etc. and it totally works. Where as, if you tried that with say Mike Tyson... not so much lmao.
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby LordRain777 » May 8th, '11, 00:03

EminemBase wrote:
One Mic wrote:
vivaldiwasasellout wrote:You are so boring. I repeat what I said about Pete Rock.
If Recovery (new Em) is so crap why all these dope people want to work with Marshall? :coffee:

Most music artists in the world (and producers) would like to work with Eminem....because he is the highest selling artist of the last decade, has the highest selling album of 2010, has a massive loyal fanbase, and is a worldwide superstar.

The quality of Eminem's music is insignificant, as if you work with Eminem, you are bound to get attention just on the back of his name alone.

(I loved Recovery btw, before you attack me as a "eminem hater")

I'm just saying it how it is.


I don't fully agree with that.

I think most of the artists who generally want to work with him want to due to his talent. And, whether people want to call Recovery shit or not - it's mostly because of production and structure.

And whichever way you slice it, the man is still a freakishly talented writer and rapper, he's robotic and has taken rap and lyricism to incredible heights throughout his career. And, just think of who he once was, never before have I seen a piece of reactionary art so perfectly capitalized as I have The Marshall Mathers LP. The whole event was totally ingenious.

People so easily forget how witty and innovative he was / is / can be.

And, once you reach that kind of stature in people's minds, it takes a lot to destroy that. Take multiple child molestion allegations against MJ for example (and I don't believe he is guilty, having looked into it) - but even that didn't waver most people's admiration for him.

So, when you consider that... if people here seriously think some shitty beats or corny punchlines are going to waver the average music listener's or artist's perception of Eminem they must be retarded lmao. Because, we all also have to remember, the AVERAGE Eminem fan, or AVERAGE rap fan or even AVID music fan - is not as critical or concerned with detail of lyricism as people here.

Eminem's whole MO is lyricism and his true fans obsess over it, myself included. As do die hard hip-hop fans too, as that's what hip-hop is about but, a lot of genres do not focus on that aspect anywhere near as much but Eminem is an incredible artistic mind outside of puns or rhyming.

So, even outside of his more shaky lyrical moments of late or, subpar beats - that does not waver other artist's image of him. He's still making credible music, and he's still seen as an incredibly integral, groundbreaking artist with a shitload of mystique and aura. A lot of artists want to work with him because he represents exactly what an artist should be, and everything they want to be and wish they could be. He's like an enigma, a rubix cube. So, they want to be around that, work with it, feed off it, get inspired by it etc.

Now with more pop-directed artists I agree, I'm sure that they're partially 'inspired' by Em's numbers and commercial draw but don't forget, many of those kind of people also CONFUSE popularity for respect anyway and seem to think Eminem is great for that reason too. So it doesn't necessarily mean they're just thinking in a manipulative fashion about it....

Unrelated point but, I mentioned the fact he's seen as mysterious etc. and, it's also pretty amazing how... how crude and apparently tasteless and limitless he can be in his music, when in-character etc. and yet in the public eye he preserves an image of class and intelligence in people's minds.

Which just shows what an incredible job he's done of separating Eminem 'the artist' and Eminem 'the rapper'. Just like you may see an actor portray a rapist and yet they become themselves again of course, in real life. Em creates realistic, violent melodrama, within his own world and psyche and yet, returns to class in real life. Like for example in the Chrysler ad...

Because think of how strange it is that he raps about raping women and eating babies and yet, in that commercial he looks normal and classy and the whole ad serves to imply that image, with the slow-burn stylistic visuals etc. and it totally works. Where as, if you tried that with say Mike Tyson... not so much lmao.

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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby Sam. » May 8th, '11, 21:17

Guess_Who wrote:ohhhhh,I was trying to convince me that could be the other thing :(

what other thing ?
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby GenePeer » May 9th, '11, 01:14

EminemBase wrote:he raps about raping women and eating babies and yet, in that commercial he looks normal and classy and the whole ad serves to imply that image, with the slow-burn stylistic visuals etc. and it totally works. Where as, if you tried that with say Mike Tyson... not so much lmao.

Poor example though, mike tyson isn't putting on a fake persona. Boxing isn't an act like WWE. I think you're starting to praise Eminem too much now. THAT's what actors do every single day. Heck, we've even got people who act as cool guys on screen only to realise they are violent & got a bad temper in real life, like Charlie Sheen.
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby EminemBase » May 9th, '11, 02:08

GenePeer wrote:
EminemBase wrote:he raps about raping women and eating babies and yet, in that commercial he looks normal and classy and the whole ad serves to imply that image, with the slow-burn stylistic visuals etc. and it totally works. Where as, if you tried that with say Mike Tyson... not so much lmao.

Poor example though, mike tyson isn't putting on a fake persona. Boxing isn't an act like WWE. I think you're starting to praise Eminem too much now. THAT's what actors do every single day. Heck, we've even got people who act as cool guys on screen only to realise they are violent & got a bad temper in real life, like Charlie Sheen.


Yeah but actors play characters in movies. It's a hugely clear distinction of fiction to everybody, so there isn't a confusion and it's no effort.

Where as, a lot of people STILL (as in, non hip-hop fans) are not used to the kind of realistic, ballsy character execution that rappers create lyrically and fail to separate the artist from the art. Ie. calling Eminem the MAN a homophobe.

How is that not different? have you ever seen anybody say De Niro should be locked up, that he's a gangsta who needs to be stopped? does anybody call Christian Bale expecting Batman to show up to solve the latest local crime(s).... no.

And yet, take Em on The Marshall Mathers LP for example, more specifically "Kill You" - I remember reading articles with writers in disgust, saying he has no limits etc. when again, he's clearly indulging in fantasy and fiction. I mean, the fucking INSANELY OTT descriptions, comic-book like in nature and references are the absolute clue to that.

But again, he mixes that with reality. It's different because De Niro doesn't put his real life into a movie. Not visibly. You don't hear him being called De Niro as Travis Bickle. You don't hear DE NIRO's thoughts along with Travis Bickle's. It's just the fiction.

So that's why it's different and why I praise Eminem for it.
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby GenePeer » May 9th, '11, 02:44

EminemBase wrote:
GenePeer wrote:
EminemBase wrote:he raps about raping women and eating babies and yet, in that commercial he looks normal and classy and the whole ad serves to imply that image, with the slow-burn stylistic visuals etc. and it totally works. Where as, if you tried that with say Mike Tyson... not so much lmao.

Poor example though, mike tyson isn't putting on a fake persona. Boxing isn't an act like WWE. I think you're starting to praise Eminem too much now. THAT's what actors do every single day. Heck, we've even got people who act as cool guys on screen only to realise they are violent & got a bad temper in real life, like Charlie Sheen.


Yeah but actors play characters in movies. It's a hugely clear distinction of fiction to everybody, so there isn't a confusion and it's no effort.

Where as, a lot of people STILL (as in, non hip-hop fans) are not used to the kind of realistic, ballsy character execution that rappers create lyrically and fail to separate the artist from the art. Ie. calling Eminem the MAN a homophobe.

How is that not different? have you ever seen anybody say De Niro should be locked up, that he's a gangsta who needs to be stopped? does anybody call Christian Bale expecting Batman to show up to solve the latest local crime(s).... no.

And yet, take Em on The Marshall Mathers LP for example, more specifically "Kill You" - I remember reading articles with writers in disgust, saying he has no limits etc. when again, he's clearly indulging in fantasy and fiction. I mean, the fucking INSANELY OTT descriptions, comic-book like in nature and references are the absolute clue to that.

But again, he mixes that with reality. It's different because De Niro doesn't put his real life into a movie. Not visibly. You don't hear him being called De Niro as Travis Bickle. You don't hear DE NIRO's thoughts along with Travis Bickle's. It's just the fiction.

So that's why it's different and why I praise Eminem for it.

Well, I don't think it's talent that lets Eminem "rap about raping women and eating babies and still look normal and classy"... I think it's people finally getting used to & seeing through the shock tactics. And I feel like it still applies to all rappers, can you name a rapper who wouldn't come of as normal due to his songs? I honestly can't think of any now, so I don't see what makes Eminem special in that aspect.
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby EminemBase » May 9th, '11, 23:29

GenePeer wrote:Well, I don't think it's talent that lets Eminem "rap about raping women and eating babies and still look normal and classy"... I think it's people finally getting used to & seeing through the shock tactics. And I feel like it still applies to all rappers, can you name a rapper who wouldn't come of as normal due to his songs? I honestly can't think of any now, so I don't see what makes Eminem special in that aspect.


I think it's talent because, he creates a higher art with what he does. It's more than rap. Something like "Kill You" is, cinematic. It feels bigger, it's dramatic, it's powerful, and totally extreme. He's an incredible voice actor, which is what Seamus Heaney (Nobel Prize winning Poet) priased Em for - his verbal energy. It's more dramatic and effective than most rap which just feels real-world. Like "Kim". It's like a movie.

Now, it's not just about looking NORMAL - obviously they've gotten used to what he does, and calling what he does shock tactics I think is hugely underselling it. More recently, sure, but not back then. I mean, he was shocking people but, it was more than just a gimmick.

He doesn't just look normal, he's seen as a intelligent, respectable artist. Can you say the same of say Redman? in the public eye? - can you imagine Redman doing that ad and it coming off the same? - they're seen as the rappers that they are in their music. Obviously people don't think they're murderers but they don't come off the same as Em does.

That's also mainly down to Em and Paul's managing of his image. They've created a mystique around him, he's also reclusive etc. etc. but most rappers don't get looked at as respectable, classy artists in the public eye. Some do (like Kanye, and Andre 3k) but they don't create the kind of music Em does.
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby Atone » May 9th, '11, 23:40

You guys have ruined this thread with yout long post's
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby GenePeer » May 10th, '11, 00:44

EminemBase wrote:
GenePeer wrote:Well, I don't think it's talent that lets Eminem "rap about raping women and eating babies and still look normal and classy"... I think it's people finally getting used to & seeing through the shock tactics. And I feel like it still applies to all rappers, can you name a rapper who wouldn't come of as normal due to his songs? I honestly can't think of any now, so I don't see what makes Eminem special in that aspect.

I think it's talent because, he creates a higher art with what he does. It's more than rap. Something like "Kill You" is, cinematic. It feels bigger, it's dramatic, it's powerful, and totally extreme. He's an incredible voice actor, which is what Seamus Heaney (Nobel Prize winning Poet) priased Em for - his verbal energy. It's more dramatic and effective than most rap which just feels real-world. Like "Kim". It's like a movie.

Sadly, at the time this songs were released, he wasn't able to look like a respectable and classy person to the public image, which is what you're praising him for. He was this crazy-ass white rapper who's out to destroy America's youth. I totally agree with him creating "higher art" and all, it's you praising him for looking normal that I don't agree with. If you ask me, his talent was actually being able to "rap about raping women and eating babies" in a completely comical and "unserious" manner but still be able to make critics and activists take him literally. That was his talent, when he could joke about something and lose his ability to look normal and classy to the public image, but most of that magic is gone now. Hence why commercial like that are now possible.

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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby Atone » May 10th, '11, 00:49

Yeah, and while your at it, Suck my dick
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby GenePeer » May 10th, '11, 00:52

Atone The Underdog wrote:Yeah, and while your at it, Suck my dick

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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby EminemBase » May 10th, '11, 04:41

GenePeer wrote:
EminemBase wrote:
GenePeer wrote:Well, I don't think it's talent that lets Eminem "rap about raping women and eating babies and still look normal and classy"... I think it's people finally getting used to & seeing through the shock tactics. And I feel like it still applies to all rappers, can you name a rapper who wouldn't come of as normal due to his songs? I honestly can't think of any now, so I don't see what makes Eminem special in that aspect.

I think it's talent because, he creates a higher art with what he does. It's more than rap. Something like "Kill You" is, cinematic. It feels bigger, it's dramatic, it's powerful, and totally extreme. He's an incredible voice actor, which is what Seamus Heaney (Nobel Prize winning Poet) priased Em for - his verbal energy. It's more dramatic and effective than most rap which just feels real-world. Like "Kim". It's like a movie.

Sadly, at the time this songs were released, he wasn't able to look like a respectable and classy person to the public image, which is what you're praising him for. He was this crazy-ass white rapper who's out to destroy America's youth. I totally agree with him creating "higher art" and all, it's you praising him for looking normal that I don't agree with. If you ask me, his talent was actually being able to "rap about raping women and eating babies" in a completely comical and "unserious" manner but still be able to make critics and activists take him literally. That was his talent, when he could joke about something and lose his ability to look normal and classy to the public image, but most of that magic is gone now. Hence why commercial like that are now possible.


That's not the point of what I'm saying though.

Because... if it was JUST shock tactics and they wore off, he'd just be seen as some lamo has-been. He does a lot more than shock tactics but... you already know that as you agreed with me on the 'higher art' front but...

That's exactly what I am saying lmao - the fact he's able to look classy and still command this sort of respect in the mind from people is a testament TO his talent. If it wasn't his talent, he simply wouldn't look this way to people.

Because, do you think it would of worked as well with say Kid Rock? or just some random famous person, I highly doubt it. There's a mystique about Eminem. People are still fascinated by him, even people who don't listen to him or aren't sure if they even like him.

But again, I'm more-so praising Em and Paul for their handling of his image. It's the way he's conducted himself on and off the mic too, but like I said, him and Paul purposely making people want more of him, wait and wait, leaking details one bit at a time etc. they've done it from day one. And they hand-pick things and have crafted the man / image / artist he now is in people's minds, through integrity. And not spreading 'Eminem' too thin.
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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

Postby JAGODA » May 12th, '11, 16:46

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Re: Twitters Mentioning Em Official Topic

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