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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Just Silver » Aug 9th, '13, 04:31

yea I only take a 5mg when i do take it

didnt know it helpd with mdma or lsd especially didn't knw mdma had bad trips lol :o
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Elision » Aug 9th, '13, 05:43

Just Silver wrote:yea I only take a 5mg when i do take it
same. more than that and i can't move xD
Just Silver wrote:didnt know it helpd with mdma or lsd especially didn't knw mdma had bad trips lol :o
No no it just deals with anxiety as a whole. I suffer from chronic panic attacks (not so much these days, was a lot worse in the past) so stimulants such as mdma which causes things to rush can easily become a bad time if you slip into a panicky mindset. A bad mdma trip (for me) consists of a sudden super fast heart rate which leads to perfuse sweating, and a major shortness of breath/chest tightness. Phase two (if I don't get a benzo in me) is vomitting and a stress-induced blackout. The benzo fixes the heart rate (thus breathing/chest tightness/sweating) and at that point I'm able to pull out of the episode quite easily.

As for my bad LSD trips, I never take more than 2 hits at a time so it's nothing hallucinatory, but they're just amplified versions of my sober attacks. I get locked into a terrible mindset where all of the euphoria flips upside-down and turns into fear about life as a whole. I start thinking that I'm making people up for the sake of my own consciousness' sanity (I prefer tripping alone for this reason specifically), and that escorts me into all kinds of terrifying things such as brain-in-a-vat theories, which lead me to serious suicide consideration. Eventually I'll find myself physically paralyzed in fear, trembling unless I get a benzo in me. The benzo kills the anxiety caused by the thoughts themselves, and allows me to explore them freely as opposed to having to run/hide from them.

I can't speak for much else because I rarely venture outside of LSD and mdma. I had a hellish experience on psilocin (the DMT extract of a psilocybin mushroom), the worst trip of my life actually, but I haven't touched a tryptamine since so I can't say how the benzo's effect that family. I imagine not very well since they hit you at such a core level that it's beyond simple brain/body chemistry. But as far as stimulants go, I never trip without oxy's or something alike nearby.
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby SliK » Aug 9th, '13, 06:31

Nothing is beyond brain chemistry haha
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Solace » Aug 9th, '13, 06:35

Have any of you gotten high off of Tylenol 3's? I've been taking them (3 at a time) but to no avail I get no codeine buzz of any sort. Good for pain though. I've been considering trying cold water extraction.
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Elision » Aug 9th, '13, 06:47

SliK wrote:Nothing is beyond brain chemistry haha
No no, I meant to the person who's tripping. You can give someone who's deep inside a tryptamine whatever you want to calm them, but it's not going to pull them out because they're just too far gone. Whereas this doesn't apply to any other family that I can think of.
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby SliK » Aug 9th, '13, 07:23

Solace wrote:Have any of you gotten high off of Tylenol 3's? I've been taking them (3 at a time) but to no avail I get no codeine buzz of any sort. Good for pain though. I've been considering trying cold water extraction.

Aren't they 30mgs a pop? 3 should be doing something I would think.

@Elision: Yeah fair enough. There would have to be some sort of antagonist or inhibitor for whatever neurotransmitter it agonizes. But since DMT is so quickly acting and so intense it probably wouldn't do much.

FYI: You should take prosac the day after you have an MDMA binge. It will limit the shitty feeling you have due to your limited seratonin supply. :y:
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Solace » Aug 9th, '13, 07:32

SliK wrote:
Solace wrote:Have any of you gotten high off of Tylenol 3's? I've been taking them (3 at a time) but to no avail I get no codeine buzz of any sort. Good for pain though. I've been considering trying cold water extraction.

Aren't they 30mgs a pop? 3 should be doing something I would think.

My exact thinking, but I'm confident there isn't much of an effect...I also have no opiate tolerance, which is why I expected a fairly obvious effect. Going to hold off on using them until I grab a dime.
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby SliK » Aug 9th, '13, 07:46

Solace wrote:
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Solace wrote:Have any of you gotten high off of Tylenol 3's? I've been taking them (3 at a time) but to no avail I get no codeine buzz of any sort. Good for pain though. I've been considering trying cold water extraction.

Aren't they 30mgs a pop? 3 should be doing something I would think.

My exact thinking, but I'm confident there isn't much of an effect...I also have no opiate tolerance, which is why I expected a fairly obvious effect. Going to hold off on using them until I grab a dime.

Crush them and snort them.

Or look into endorphin neurotransmitter reuptake inhibitors, if such drugs are readily available.
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Elision » Aug 9th, '13, 07:52

SliK wrote:FYI: You should take prosac the day after you have an MDMA binge. It will limit the shitty feeling you have due to your limited seratonin supply. :y:
That's a really outdated method, and it can be dangerous. I prefer a 5-htp nootropic suppliment. Works a lot better at directly rebuilding the neurotransmitters, as opposed to as things like prozac doing it as a side-effect. And you can take it daily with your vitamins/fish oil.

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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby SliK » Aug 9th, '13, 08:00

Prosac's main thing is to block the reuptake of seratonin, which allows you to maximize the potential of what limited seratonin you have left. It doesn't give you any more of it or help to rebuild your supply. I don't think it's a side effect of the drug at all or see how it could be dangerous if you only do it after a binge and you don't binge often.

In theory you could do both.
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Elision » Aug 9th, '13, 08:15

I was under the impression that prosac was an antipsychotic (blocking dopamine, not serotonin). My bad if it isn't.

Regardless, if it blocks out serotonin, I don't see how that could help your lack of it. You say that it forces your body to use up whatever you have left, which seems like it would cause more sedation than anything. I mean i'm not a neuro scientist, so I don't know completely. But it seems like this would be the last thing you'd want to do.

Are you saying sedation is a remedy for the comedown of mdma? not that'd you'd be wrong in saying that, I'm just trying to understand
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby SliK » Aug 9th, '13, 08:33

Prosac is a seratonin reuptake inhibitor. The following explanation will be brief as I'm on my phone and even if I wasn't I can't explain to you in one post what took me a semester to learn.

MDMA depletes your seratonin levels, you would be aware of this I'm sure. By taking a reuptake inhibitor you are essentially stopping the neurotransmitter from leaving its receptor, meaning that the very limited supply you have stays in the synaptic cleft rather than being reabsorbed into the soma. When it's in the soma it isn't doing anything for your body, only when the soma releases it after an Action Potential will you feel the affects of the neurotransmitter (in this case seratonin). So if you have very limited stores of seratonin, by inhibiting its reuptake you maximize the effects of each action potential (that is, each time the neurotransmitter is released).
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Elision » Aug 9th, '13, 08:39

good shit man :y: thanks
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby CrashBand » Aug 9th, '13, 09:17

I can't sleep after MDMA binges. I never really do drugs anymore, only time this year was at my mates 21st.
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Re: Favorite Alcohol/Drugs

Postby Just Silver » Aug 9th, '13, 12:29

i wanna do MDMA but its rare here :( and expensive as fuck basically coke prices lol 80 a gram
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