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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 1st, '10, 20:13

Yeah I forgot to say that it was a great read. Very well written.
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby embm » Mar 1st, '10, 20:15

interestin :y:
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby Jay-19 » Mar 1st, '10, 20:18

I'm not Mister-Know-It-All... but I thought about that a long time ago. :coffee:
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby Pllumi » Mar 1st, '10, 20:19

nice :y:
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby Duffy_hibs » Mar 1st, '10, 21:04

I don't know about him going to hell and taking the fans with him :confusion:

the way I always took it was that at the end of Encore he killed "Slim Shady" "put it to my brain, scream die shady and pop it", I think he was implying he had to stop being Slim Shady/Eminem because he needed a break.

then "Relapse", obviously being the RELAPSE of SLIM SHADY.
Slim Shady being the voice in "My Darling" & "Dr West" and also at the start of the Slim Shady EP, I think the "see you in hell fuckers" was him just being funny but then again thats opinion.
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 1st, '10, 21:06

Duffy_hibs wrote:I don't know about him going to hell and taking the fans with him :confusion:

the way I always took it was that at the end of Encore he killed "Slim Shady" "put it to my brain, scream die shady and pop it", I think he was implying he had to stop being Slim Shady/Eminem because he needed a break.


That's When I'm Gone which is on Curtain Call: The Hits and not Encore.
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby X'ed Up » Mar 1st, '10, 21:06

Duffy_hibs wrote:I don't know about him going to hell and taking the fans with him :confusion:

the way I always took it was that at the end of Encore he killed "Slim Shady" "put it to my brain, scream die shady and pop it", I think he was implying he had to stop being Slim Shady/Eminem because he needed a break.

then "Relapse", obviously being the RELAPSE of SLIM SHADY.
Slim Shady being the voice in "My Darling" & "Dr West" and also at the start of the Slim Shady EP, I think the "see you in hell fuckers" was him just being funny but then again thats opinion.

Hell is Relapse.....

Relapse is a Horrorcore album with raping and murdering

It would make sense like that :smoking:
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 1st, '10, 22:04

Geno wrote:
There was also that other theory I seen about Relapse's songs being the 12 steps of Rehab or something. It makes Relapse seem like much more than just some crazy horror core album.

That would make sense if there wasnt 15 songs but 12 on there.

I just think it is a crazy horrorcore album with Em trying to show of that he still has that crazy rhyme technique and increible talent even though he's been away from the game for 5 years.
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby X'ed Up » Mar 1st, '10, 22:08

Geno wrote:
MikeNufc wrote:
Geno wrote:
There was also that other theory I seen about Relapse's songs being the 12 steps of Rehab or something. It makes Relapse seem like much more than just some crazy horror core album.

That would make sense if there wasnt 15 songs but 12 on there.

I just think it is a crazy horrorcore album with Em trying to show of that he still has that crazy rhyme technique and increible talent even though he's been away from the game for 5 years.

Nah, it made perfect sense.

Crack A Bottle was the celebration, and Underground was the rebirth of the old Em coming out of Rehab.

You'd have to find it and read the whole thing to understand. :y:

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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 1st, '10, 22:09

Geno wrote:
MikeNufc wrote:
Geno wrote:
There was also that other theory I seen about Relapse's songs being the 12 steps of Rehab or something. It makes Relapse seem like much more than just some crazy horror core album.

That would make sense if there wasnt 15 songs but 12 on there.

I just think it is a crazy horrorcore album with Em trying to show of that he still has that crazy rhyme technique and increible talent even though he's been away from the game for 5 years.

Nah, it made perfect sense.

Crack A Bottle was the celebration, and Underground was the rebirth of the old Em coming out of Rehab.

You'd have to find it and read the whole thing to understand. :y:

I'll google it and try and find it. I'm never into all that though. Em has said that he rhymes stuff just for the sake of it and if he wanted to show the 12 steps he'd make it more obvious, I reckon.
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 1st, '10, 22:18

Geno, I just googled it and found this

http://www.last.fm/music/Eminem/_/Deja+Vu/+journal

First, pay attention to the album's title. Relapse. It's titled that for a reason. This is important. Make sure you know what Relapse means. I'm guessing you know, you seem like a smart person.

He's not just Relapsing on drugs here. He's relapsing into Slim Shady. Keep this in mind.

"Dr. West" starts it off. So Em is about to come out of rehab here. They mention the 12 steps. Keep this in mind. 12 STEPS. Remember this. Now, as Dr West and Eminem exchange words, West starts pressuring Eminem to take drugs again. West turns into the devil, and then an alarm clock rings. Eminem has woken up. Obviously it was just a dream.

Guess when he wakes up at? Yeah, "3 a.m.". Now, he flashes back the night before. He takes you through the night and what happened. By the third verse, Slim Shady is in full control.

Now he flashes back again and tells you about how he became addicted to these drugs. He explains that it was his mother's fault. "My Mom" tells you this story.

He has another flashback in the song "Insane" telling you about him being raped as a child. And a number of other things about his mother and step father.

Eminem comes to the realization that he's crazy in "Bagpipes From Baghdad" which is what he's telling you through the song. That's why he raps about Mariah and how he wants her back, and basically brags about how he can kill you easily.

As you can tell in that song, Slim Shady is back. So, he decides to reintroduce himself to the world. In the next song "Hello" he does just that. He also basically tells the drugs brought Shady out.

"Same Song & Dance" follows Shady in stalking, inviting, and murdering his celebrity crushes Britney Spears, Lindsey Lohan, and some chick Tonya. Which is also the skit before.

"We Made You" is basically a lighter version of "Same Song and Dance" and is basically telling all of the lady celebrities that they want him even if they don't.

"Medicine Ball" tells you that Shady is laughing in your face because he uses you and the world as his medicine ball while telling you he's making a fool of Hannibal Lector, and teaming up with Dexter to do some crazy shit. And, of course he gets Christopher Reeves to come and lay his verse and how he hates Eminem. Shady tells you that it's time to hate him again for using you and the world.

"Stay Wide Awake" tells another crazy story of Shady and how you shouldn't doubt him. He tells you you better stay awake or he'll kill you and uses a story of him and a chick named Brenda as an example.

"Old Time's Sake" is him slowly coming back to his senses and is having some of Shady's thoughts, but also having a good ol time with Dr Dre.

"Must Be The Ganja" is him telling you that it must be the ganja that's making him high. But by the third verse, he's telling you that all he needs is a pen and paper for lyrics. Basically it means that rapping is getting him high again.

"Deja Vu" is him accepting what these drugs do/did to him. He tells you how it effected certain people including his daughters and telling you that he's been through it before.

"Beautiful" is him reflecting on this.

"Crack A Bottle" is the celebration of him beating these drugs and becoming sober.

"Underground" is him telling you that he's back and he's going back to his crazy, witty rhymes that he used to do early on in his life.

12 STEPS! Count the songs. From 3 A.M. to Deja Vu. 12 songs. Deja Vu is the song where he accepts his problem which is the last step. Each of the first 12 songs were steps and stories to a larger one.

The whole concept of the album? Rehab. 12 steps, the reflection, the celebration, and then him being himself again.

The beginning were flashbacks, the middle were stories of Slim Shady and what the drugs did to him, the ending was him slowly coming out of his drugged state, and accepting it.

People don't give Eminem enough credit. He's not stupid.

It's not that hard to catch on to, and it's not complicated. You just have to listen. I mean, come on, he made three albums worth of material. It's no coincidence that these songs were picked for Relapse.


It's kinda converted me to this idea. Makes a lot of sense and if it's true then wow, that's crazy.
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby dR3 » Mar 1st, '10, 22:55

^Yeah, that's the article. It's a fucking awesome review, made me appreciate R1 a lot more.
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Re: Eminem's album concepts (focus on Encore and Relapse)

Postby Emadyville » Mar 1st, '10, 22:55

dR.dR3 wrote:It was a nice read. :y:


yeah, i feel its a good thought, I highly doubt thats what em thought about tho :whistle:
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