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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby murphmanny » Mar 20th, '10, 16:53

You've got a point there. But, exactly how much time has to pass before we call it "great".
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby Satire » Mar 20th, '10, 16:58

murphmanny wrote:You've got a point there. But, exactly how much time has to pass before we call it "great".


3-5 years after SSLP people were calling it a classic. The second MMLP dropped, listeners labeled it a new age classic. 1-3 years after Eminem Show fans were calling it Em's best album. It's been less than a year since Relapse/Refill dropped, but still nearly everyone says it's better than Encore.

It's been 6 years since Encore. If it's reception was going to get any better, it would've already happened.
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby murphmanny » Mar 20th, '10, 17:07

Encore was pretty much the first album I've heard (I've listened to individual songs) because of my age. And I though Encore was amazing with the exception of a few ridiculous songs. Now that I've listened to all Eminem's albums (all his shit too), I can say that Encore definitely wasn't one of his best. But, I do think he put some effort in it. Or like someone already said: he didn't have any competition, so he wasn't that "hungry" for another great album...

I dunno, can't wait for R2 though.
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby LLockhart86 » Mar 20th, '10, 17:14

Satire wrote:
murphmanny wrote:You've got a point there. But, exactly how much time has to pass before we call it "great".


3-5 years after SSLP people were calling it a classic. The second MMLP dropped, listeners labeled it a new age classic. 1-3 years after Eminem Show fans were calling it Em's best album. It's been less than a year since Relapse/Refill dropped, but still nearly everyone says it's better than Encore.

It's been 6 years since Encore. If it's reception was going to get any better, it would've already happened.



I Agree with everything but the first sentence.

SSLP was a classic to me after the first time I listened to it, right after I first listened to chronic 2001 ( also a classic since the first time i listened to it )
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby Berry » Mar 20th, '10, 17:15

Satire wrote:
murphmanny wrote:You've got a point there. But, exactly how much time has to pass before we call it "great".


3-5 years after SSLP people were calling it a classic. The second MMLP dropped, listeners labeled it a new age classic. 1-3 years after Eminem Show fans were calling it Em's best album. It's been less than a year since Relapse/Refill dropped, but still nearly everyone says it's better than Encore.

It's been 6 years since Encore. If it's reception was going to get any better, it would've already happened.


Nail on head.

Yeah, the all round Consensus about Encore won't change... it just can't with songs like ass like that, just lose it, big weenie, first single.

Relapse on the other hand I believe is different. In a few years people will see it as a experimentation album. An album in which Em was testing his emceeing/rapping abilities.
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby LLockhart86 » Mar 20th, '10, 17:18

Berry wrote:
Satire wrote:
murphmanny wrote:You've got a point there. But, exactly how much time has to pass before we call it "great".


3-5 years after SSLP people were calling it a classic. The second MMLP dropped, listeners labeled it a new age classic. 1-3 years after Eminem Show fans were calling it Em's best album. It's been less than a year since Relapse/Refill dropped, but still nearly everyone says it's better than Encore.

It's been 6 years since Encore. If it's reception was going to get any better, it would've already happened.


Nail on head.

Yeah, the all round Consensus about Encore won't change... it just can't with songs like ass like that, just lose it, big weenie, first single.

Relapse on the other hand I believe is different. In a few years people will it as a experimentation album. An album in which Em was testing his emceeing/rapping abilities.


Relapse was a classic too. Just might not seem so when you are comparing it to his 3 better albums.

But relapse will always be nice to me
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby Berry » Mar 20th, '10, 17:21

Relapse was a classic too. Just might not seem so when you are comparing it to his 3 better albums.

But relapse will always be nice to me


Same here...

I maybe one of the few people who rate Relapse with the same regard as TES.
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby ShadyVsEminem » Mar 20th, '10, 17:23

Relapse is dope but not classic and is severely under rated by people.

Encore is good(really dope at times)but has a few seriously dodgy songs and although i still like and listen to it i can see why most think its his worst album.
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby Shadysapathy » Mar 20th, '10, 17:26

IMO Encore was a one of his greatest albums.
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 20th, '10, 17:26

Encore is a average album. It's not crap, just average.
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby MikeNUFC » Mar 20th, '10, 17:48

Menzo wrote:Is it possible that he was just being sarcastic with that line: "I guess enough time just ain't passed yet".

I doubt it cus it was only made 2007 - could have been written 2006.
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby X'ed Up » Mar 20th, '10, 19:18

Berry wrote:
Relapse was a classic too. Just might not seem so when you are comparing it to his 3 better albums.

But relapse will always be nice to me


Same here...

I maybe one of the few people who rate Relapse with the same regard as TES.

co-sign homey

Relapse FTW :smoking:
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby kevinh » Mar 20th, '10, 21:00

Encore is better than relapse
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Re: For those of you who always quote BCWYWF

Postby embm » Mar 20th, '10, 21:27

i bet lata in the game all his cds wud becom classic/legendry
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