Are Eminem's "Pop" Songs Fillers?

[Alaine]

MMLP & Eminem Show would feel so boring, angry, and emo as fuck without that one little pit stop in the middle of the album to take a look at pop culture in a comedic manner.

This.
Unlike some people I don't want an album full of serious tracks at all, too intense to listen to.

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory had 12 dead serious tracks and it's arguably the best Rap album of all time. Serious tracks>Pop garbage IMO.

song like TRSS & Without Me are not pop garbage, just because they're poppy, upbeat don't automatically make them garbage, pop had the goods and the bads just like every other genres. I love The Way I Am but do I want an album full of tracks like that? NOPE. Especially when you listen to a full album, filler pop songs make it much easier to listen to.

[X'ed Up]

Got tiring after 20 listens. In the other hand Without Me I watched/listened to on Youtube non-stop for about 100 times in a row.

It was THAT good to me at the time.

[X'ed Up]

Excuse my wording. They're not garbage but compared to other songs on the album, musically they are lower. I think while poppy songs make the album lighter and more happier to listen to. They take up space for another great track. I'm just saying, you don't see Pac, Biggie, Nas, or Jay with Pop songs on their classic albums respectively. Rap music is not supposed to be light-hearted. Rap is agressive, laid-back, club-banging or depressing.

IMO Eminem should stop poppy songs and he has in fact so I'm glad personally but you're right about making the album more listenable though.

[Alaine]

I'm just saying, you don't see Pac, Biggie, Nas, or Jay with Pop songs on their classic albums respectively.

That's what I like about Eminem, he's like no other, Em can make deep songs like those rappers but they can't make goofy songs like him.

Rap music is not supposed to be light-hearted. Rap is agressive, laid-back, club-banging or depressing

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[Satire]

MMLP & Eminem Show would feel so boring, angry, and emo as fuck without that one little pit stop in the middle of the album to take a look at pop culture in a comedic manner.

This.
Unlike some people I don't want an album full of serious tracks at all, too intense to listen to.

The Don Killuminati: The 7 Day Theory had 12 dead serious tracks and it's arguably the best Rap album of all time. Serious tracks>Pop garbage IMO.

....I don't consider that Pac's best album, much less the greatest of all time

Excuse my wording. They're not garbage but compared to other songs on the album, musically they are lower. I think while poppy songs make the album lighter and more happier to listen to. They take up space for another great track. I'm just saying, you don't see Pac, Biggie, Nas, or Jay with Pop songs on their classic albums respectively. Rap music is not supposed to be light-hearted. Rap is agressive, laid-back, club-banging or depressing.

Here's a difference though: They're not white, and they don't need to. Oh yeah, and Jay, Nas, Biggie, & Pac all did the "poppy single/sell-out" things for their albums, but they took a different approach. The only exception was Nas on Illmatic, but after that he eventually sold out for a while too.

[X'ed Up]

@Satire Yeah, but the Pop shit is played-out for Eminem. I'm tired of it. And I prefer Biggie, Pac, Jay, and Nas's approach to the poppy/sell-out than Eminem's excluding Without Me.

And The Don Killuminati is Pac's best IMO.

@Alaine IYO but to each his/her own

What is their not to understand in that?

[Alaine]

@Alaine IYO but to each his/her own

What is their not to understand in that?

because there's no such thing as "Rap music is not supposed to be light-hearted. Rap is agressive, laid-back, club-banging or depressing", that's like saying "pop shouldn't have meaning at all, it should be all about catchy music".

[X'ed Up]

@Alaine IYO but to each his/her own

What is their not to understand in that?

because there's no such thing as "Rap music is not supposed to be light-hearted. Rap is agressive, laid-back, club-banging or depressing", that's like saying "pop shouldn't have meaning at all, it should be all about catchy music".

Well, Rap isn't supossed to be no soft "I love flowers" shit. Rap is hardcore music. What do you think Rap music is or what it's supposed to be?

[X'ed Up]

Excuse me, I'm just listening to Rap from the late 90's - early 00's. When it was actually good music

[Alaine]

@Alaine IYO but to each his/her own

What is their not to understand in that?

because there's no such thing as "Rap is not supposed to be light-hearted. Rap is agressive, laid-back, club-banging or depressing", that's like saying "pop shouldn't have meaning at all, it should be all about catchy music".

Well, Rap isn't supossed to be no soft "I love flowers" shit. Rap is hardcore music. What do you think Rap music is or what it's supposed to be?

It can be about whatever rappers want to rap about. 'Hardcore rap' is just one small branch in a big genre called 'rap'. B.o.b, Drake, Cudi, .. and loads of rappers don't make 'hardcore' music but what they make is still rap. Em has loads of songs that are not hardcore by any mean but they're rap. In fact people feeling those songs about real life way more than 'hardcore rap'.

[X'ed Up]

Well, see that's the new generation of rappers. I completely turn my back to the 'soft' rap which is B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Drake, etc. So, yeah I guess you're right. But Eminem is mostly hardcore Rap excluding Encore's garbage.

God, I miss Pac, Biggie, Big L, and the old Jay and Nas It seems only Em is here for me

[my_name_is]

Well, see that's the new generation of rappers. I completely turn my back to the 'soft' rap which is B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Drake, etc. So, yeah I guess you're right. But Eminem is mostly hardcore Rap excluding Encore's garbage.

God, I miss Pac, Biggie, Big L, and the old Jay and Nas It seems only Em is here for me

Actually I think that these new guys are really helping rap get back to form, personally. Cudi and B.o.B. dont make hardcore intense 2pac songs but they make deep songs with meaning. for a while rap was only club banging songs from lil wayne and like kanye

[X'ed Up]

Well, see that's the new generation of rappers. I completely turn my back to the 'soft' rap which is B.o.B, Kid Cudi, Drake, etc. So, yeah I guess you're right. But Eminem is mostly hardcore Rap excluding Encore's garbage.

God, I miss Pac, Biggie, Big L, and the old Jay and Nas It seems only Em is here for me

Actually I think that these new guys are really helping rap get back to form, personally. Cudi and B.o.B. dont make hardcore intense 2pac songs but they make deep songs with meaning. for a while rap was only club banging songs from lil wayne and like kanye

They Are. But Rap will never be what it was in its Golden Age

[LLockhart86]

Well, his other songs aren't radio friendly, so I'd say yes, the poppy singles are fillers.

Pretty much any song on TES could be radio friendly. And I think most of that album has been used for promotion one way or another. For movies, or games, or for his own marketing....

[MikeNUFC]

No, all his pop songs are radio-firendly songs but they all (bar JLI) suit the theme of the album they're on.

My Name Is - Slim Shady character coming out

Real Slim Shady - Hitting back at critics

Without Me - His life turning into a show (hence the video)

Just Lose It - Well, theres an exception to every rule plus there was no partcular theme on Encore

We Made You - serial killing.

For me, a filler is a song that doesnt suit the theme of the album, nothing to do with quality. For example, I'd say Drips was a filler on TEs becuase it has no reason to be there. Still a great song, though

He's versatile, he can make an angry song, an joke, poppy song, a laid back song etc etc. You say

Every rapper has fillers on there album and I much prefer Em's poppy/radio tracks to other rappers'. Much more interesting.

You say "Rap is hardcore music" which is a pretty generalized statement. Maybe, what you listen to is hardcore but listen to Run DMC, Beastie Boys etc. That was the start of rap music and it wasnt hardcore at all.

Some of the best rappers - Common being a prime example - isn't hardcore at all.