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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby gutawafang » Nov 1st, '10, 04:51

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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby Alaine » Nov 1st, '10, 06:20

anyone who hates on recovery is a loser :coffee:

that said, I do get worried after this new collab, I won't count out the chance that he's actually back on drugs
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby Brood » Nov 1st, '10, 07:13

Xelia wrote:I don't get why some of you want Eminem to be like he was '99 and early 2000. In that time he was on drugs and he was young. Hell, you change when you get older.

I agree. 2010 Eminem is vastly different than his younger self. There's no way he can go back and replicate those years for today. Anyone hoping for a return of the "old Eminem" is delusional at this point. We're just gonna have to accept him for who he is now.
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby kiki » Nov 1st, '10, 07:22

And who are you all to judge him? The majority of you was probably around 6-8 years old when SSLP&MMLP came out - so I blame your crazy thoughts on your ages. Trust me - if what he said really happened (hours away from death) then there's no way he'd just relapse like that and pretend everything is back to normal.
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby Alaine » Nov 1st, '10, 07:41

kiki wrote:And who are you all to judge him? The majority of you was probably around 6-8 years old when SSLP&MMLP came out - so I blame your crazy thoughts on your ages. Trust me - if what he said really happened (hours away from death) then there's no way he'd just relapse like that and pretend everything is back to normal.

people like drama. I won't be surprised if there are some people actually want him back on drugs even though it means death to him
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 1st, '10, 08:45

ChristinaD12 wrote:My take on him being on drugs....

If Eminem happened to relapse again, depending of course, he would be more like the Eminem in the '99 to '03 era. Why I say this is because....it's like trying drugs all over again. The feeling you get and the way they make you feel. He would have lost his tolerance. During the Encore/hiatus era he was so far gone on the shit... He wouldn't be at the point already if he had relapsed since Recovery.

So basically, if Eminem has relapsed.. At this point, he would be more the jokey, feel good, happy Em. Not the slow, zombied out one.


That's not how it works. An addict knows how much he/she was taking before and will quickly ramp back up to the potentially life-threatening levels (Eminem himself already did this once; he got clean for a short period after being hospitalized in the winter of 2007 from the overdose, relapsed, and very quickly was right back to taking the same amount he was before).
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby kiki » Nov 1st, '10, 08:51

^^ um yeah but the first time he got clean he didn't really want to get clean so that doesn't really count.

Alaine wrote:people like drama. I won't be surprised if there are some people actually want him back on drugs even though it means death to him


People should be able to know the difference between a little on stage drama and life threatening drama.The drug problem is a drama of the latter and no sane person would want him to be back on drugs.
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby EminemInsider » Nov 1st, '10, 09:03

kiki wrote:^^ um yeah but the first time he got clean he didn't really want to get clean so that doesn't really count.

Alaine wrote:people like drama. I won't be surprised if there are some people actually want him back on drugs even though it means death to him


People should be able to know the difference between a little on stage drama and life threatening drama.The drug problem is a drama of the latter and no sane person would want him to be back on drugs.


This was actually the second time he got clean (the first time was after going to rehab in 2005...that was when he "wasn't ready to get clean" and in the back of his mind "knew he was going right back to doing what he'd been doing").

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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby kiki » Nov 1st, '10, 15:28

Well I guess we can all agree that the last time he got clean he understood how serious his problem was and I can't imagine he'd wanna go back to that. he said he sees a counselor once a week, so I'm sure that person would know if he relapsed and would help him get better.
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby ChristinaE12 » Nov 1st, '10, 17:19

No.. I didn't mean the amount he would take if he relapsed. I mean how the drugs themselves would make him feel. Depending of course on a few things though. They would most likely not make him feel zombied out. He'd be more just the "high", feel good, and alert. Until he got way in over his head again. Which wouldn't be right away after a relapse. It would still take some time.

That is what I'm saying. Not how much he would actually take. And he would still have lost his tolerance. And that is the very mistake most addicts make when they relapse. They think they can take exactly what they took when they stopped. So they overdose.
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby MikeNUFC » Nov 1st, '10, 17:21

kiki wrote:And who are you all to judge him? The majority of you was probably around 6-8 years old when SSLP&MMLP came out - so I blame your crazy thoughts on your ages. Trust me - if what he said really happened (hours away from death) then there's no way he'd just relapse like that and pretend everything is back to normal.

You have no clue about addiction, obviously. Dont try and take the moral high ground and write such a dumb comment.

Just because he was hours from death doesnt mean he wont relapse again. There's always a chance of it happening. And if a pill addict does start taking pills again, of course they'll pretend to everything is normal - that's typical addict behaviour.

EDIT: I'm not saying he is back on drugs, but dont dismiss the idea just like that.
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby Alaine » Nov 1st, '10, 17:26

he'll have a public performance in brazil in few days so I guess we could see if he's back on drugs
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby SlimShady44 » Nov 2nd, '10, 02:10

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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby kiki » Nov 2nd, '10, 07:33

MikeNUFC wrote:Just because he was hours from death doesnt mean he wont relapse again. There's always a chance of it happening. And if a pill addict does start taking pills again, of course they'll pretend to everything is normal - that's typical addict behaviour.

EDIT: I'm not saying he is back on drugs, but dont dismiss the idea just like that.


I feel bad about never having to overcome an addiction myself - don't contribute to that please.
And you obviously have no clue about people maturing and starting to take responsibility for their family.

I didn't dismiss the idea just like that I just said that with all the help he gets and with what he's releaized for himself (and I'm sure he didn't tell us everything - why would he?) he just won't relapse just like that. It's not like he wakes up in the morning thinkin: Oh hey, I'm takin a pill now because I'm in the mood for it.

I get that addicts can't control their addiction and that this might actually happen BUT the people close to him would notice and take action.
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Re: Eminem is in BIG trouble.....

Postby MikeNUFC » Nov 2nd, '10, 12:16

kiki wrote:I didn't dismiss the idea just like that I just said that with all the help he gets and with what he's releaized for himself (and I'm sure he didn't tell us everything - why would he?) he just won't relapse just like that. It's not like he wakes up in the morning thinkin: Oh hey, I'm takin a pill now because I'm in the mood for it.

I get that addicts can't control their addiction and that this might actually happen BUT the people close to him would notice and take action.

It's virtually impossible for "the people close to him" to take action when someone is addicted - unless the people close with him have been in the same position - and even then it's tough. The only person who can really help an addict is the addict themselves - as D12 said in an interview not long ago, when Em was in his haitus they wanted to help him but they knew they couldnt.

And of course it doesnt just "happen", but with him being a former addict, it'd a pretty quick spiral.
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