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Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby soundthegroove » Jan 3rd, '11, 18:00

I always thought it was just a name created by die-hard fans, who thought of the name "King Mathers" when Eminem didn't release the name for Encore [or relapse] yet. I figured the name just stuck to fans, but people are still talking about the album.

I get irritated whenever I hear someone bring up the name (thinking it is just a made up name), but I have seen it so much, I was hoping someone could clarify. What is the story behind this? Is it like Relapse 2 - an album that was supposed to be made, but never fully was?

Any help here would be appreciated. Best regards!
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby soundthegroove » Jan 3rd, '11, 18:15

Thanks for the explanation! :y:
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby Wreck » Jan 3rd, '11, 18:32

What Geno said, but I'll add one thing.

Cashis and Em made a deal where they would name each other's albums, and Cashis came up with King Mathers for Em's album title name.
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby Wreck » Jan 3rd, '11, 18:37

Geno wrote:
Wreckless Music wrote:What Geno said, but I'll add one thing.

Cashis and Em made a deal where they would name each other's albums, and Cashis came up with King Mathers for Em's album title name.

I seen that in another thread, but I honestly don't remember this happening. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't remember it lol.


Lol I understand. The part where it is stated that Em named Cashis' album as well is the rare part. I found interviews where Cashis says that's Em's album, but I need to find the whole interview where he explains it.
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby Wreck » Jan 3rd, '11, 18:40

I can't find the part where he says they named each others albums but it's kind of implied. I found this on imdb about Cashis.

Loose Cannon was originally going to be called The County Hound with The County Hound EP being almost like a sample such as how The Slim Shady EP was to The Slim Shady LP, but while in the studio Eminem noted Cashis as being a Loose Cannon which gave way to title change.
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby Shadizz » Jan 3rd, '11, 18:47

Cashis also mentionned "King Mathers" in Pistol Poppin ('2007) :y:
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby Jens14 » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:08

I get the others but why do you think CWYWF is from the king mathers recording era?
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby danny-mcf » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:15

LOL Read This.

King Mathers is the tentative title for an upcoming album from American rapper Eminem and his fifth major label studio release.

50 Cent indicated that Eminem is preparing a new solo album. Labelmate Ca$his also attested to the new album, referring to it as King Mathers. He said that it would be released in 2007, and that Jay-Z would be featured on the album.

Eminem was in the studio with T.I. and produced three tracks, two of which were produced for T.I.'s album T.I. vs. T.I.P. (only one made the final cut) and one for Eminem. He’s back! After being away for three years Eminem is planning to make a comeback with King Mathers, his fifth solo effort in eight years. The album is currently slated for an October release, with it’s first single “Still Shady” hitting the air waves as early as mid-August. Two clips are scheduled to be shot in Los Angeles starting July 23rd, the first being “Still Shady” a track featuring a menacing guitar riff while Eminem attempts to reclaim the title he once was so modest of. The second clip to be shot, “Follow Me” features 50 Cent and has the duo flowing to a beat reminiscent of 50 Cent’s smash single “Out of Control” a track that will undoubtedly garner plenty of rump shaking in the club these up coming months. Long time friend and collaborator Jeff Bass claims, “Expect an album like you have never heard from Marshall. He’s been through a lot since Encore and has a lot to say. This album is very different from his previous work.” Bass also promised that fans won’t be disappointed by Slim Shady inspired tracks like “Still Shady” and “Never Gave A fuck.” King Mathers also features a long overdue tribute to Mather’s fallen friend Deshaun Holton (Things Ain’t The Same), famous for his role in the film 8 Mile and a member of Mather’s Detroit rap collective D-12. You can expect King Mathers to hit stores October 16th. A special edition “King Mathers” will be released simultaneously featuring four tracks from the recently scrapped upcoming D-12 project that includes a surprising appearance by Three 6 Mafia as well as Stat Quo. “King Mathers” boasts possibly ten tracks produced by Dr. Dre as well as production from Hi-Tek, Dawaun Parker, Akon, & Eminem himself. The highly anticipated comeback album also features guest appearances by label mates Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, Ca$his & Obie Trice as well as Jay-Z, T.I. & Mary J. Blige.
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby TheGentlePlayer » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:36

Is it from wikipedia?
I wanted an album so rugged nobody could touch it.
Spent a million a track and went over my budget.
Now how in the fuck am I supposed to get out of debt?
I can't rap anymore, I just murdered the alphabet.
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby danny-mcf » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:41

TheGentlePlayer wrote:Is it from wikipedia?



Nah some bullshit site i found on a site from google.
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby Skip2Malu52 » Jan 3rd, '11, 19:51

danny-mcf wrote:LOL Read This.

King Mathers is the tentative title for an upcoming album from American rapper Eminem and his fifth major label studio release.

50 Cent indicated that Eminem is preparing a new solo album. Labelmate Ca$his also attested to the new album, referring to it as King Mathers. He said that it would be released in 2007, and that Jay-Z would be featured on the album.

Eminem was in the studio with T.I. and produced three tracks, two of which were produced for T.I.'s album T.I. vs. T.I.P. (only one made the final cut) and one for Eminem. He’s back! After being away for three years Eminem is planning to make a comeback with King Mathers, his fifth solo effort in eight years. The album is currently slated for an October release, with it’s first single “Still Shady” hitting the air waves as early as mid-August. Two clips are scheduled to be shot in Los Angeles starting July 23rd, the first being “Still Shady” a track featuring a menacing guitar riff while Eminem attempts to reclaim the title he once was so modest of. The second clip to be shot, “Follow Me” features 50 Cent and has the duo flowing to a beat reminiscent of 50 Cent’s smash single “Out of Control” a track that will undoubtedly garner plenty of rump shaking in the club these up coming months. Long time friend and collaborator Jeff Bass claims, “Expect an album like you have never heard from Marshall. He’s been through a lot since Encore and has a lot to say. This album is very different from his previous work.” Bass also promised that fans won’t be disappointed by Slim Shady inspired tracks like “Still Shady” and “Never Gave A fuck.” King Mathers also features a long overdue tribute to Mather’s fallen friend Deshaun Holton (Things Ain’t The Same), famous for his role in the film 8 Mile and a member of Mather’s Detroit rap collective D-12. You can expect King Mathers to hit stores October 16th. A special edition “King Mathers” will be released simultaneously featuring four tracks from the recently scrapped upcoming D-12 project that includes a surprising appearance by Three 6 Mafia as well as Stat Quo. “King Mathers” boasts possibly ten tracks produced by Dr. Dre as well as production from Hi-Tek, Dawaun Parker, Akon, & Eminem himself. The highly anticipated comeback album also features guest appearances by label mates Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, Ca$his & Obie Trice as well as Jay-Z, T.I. & Mary J. Blige.

The bold part seems fake to me.
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby soundthegroove » Jan 3rd, '11, 22:59

I strongly appreciate all the explanations guys. Thanks!

Overall, what I have gathered is Cashis claimed that to be an album name during an interview and everyone ran with it. Either way, I am looking forward to hearing more material from Shady/ Aftermath.

Thanks again!
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby lakaisx » Jan 3rd, '11, 23:34

Wreckless Music wrote:What Geno said, but I'll add one thing.

Cashis and Em made a deal where they would name each other's albums, and Cashis came up with King Mathers for Em's album title name.

Yeah i remember that, Cashis named Ems album "Kings Mathers" and Em named Cashis record Loose Cannon.
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jan 3rd, '11, 23:37

It was basically what "Relapse 2" was. Just a working title, pretty much

I believe at some point, Em was thinking about this name. Then Cashis tells all. We never actually heard "King Mathers" come from Em's mouth

King Mathers actually sounds more like something that should be dropped after he dies
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Re: Please Explain: King Mathers

Postby aj6931234 » Jan 4th, '11, 01:20

I could of swore that i read somewhere that the first beautiful verse was wrote in rehab
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