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Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby One Mic » Jan 11th, '11, 19:27

Saw this when looking on Metacritic
- http://www.metacritic.com/music/the-eminem-show

For a lot of people in the world (and on this forum), TES is one of their favourite Eminem albums, if not THE favourite. Of course any album in the world has a bad review out there somewhere, but I've never seen one as negative as this, for this particular album.

Was awarded 20/100 ..... and they really went in on it.

Eminem fans, how do you respond to this review? (without resorting to "haters gonna hate" talk)

REVIEW LINK: http://www.salon.com/entertainment/musi ... dex.html?x
Nothing in popular music gets older quicker than carefully engineered outrage -- just ask Marilyn Manson -- and we're unlikely to hear another platinum-selling album in 2002 that sounds as tired and thoroughly played out as the fourth offering from the troubled young Marshall Mathers.

"[You're] acting like I'm the first rapper to smack a bitch or say 'faggot,'" Mathers raps in that famously laid-back drawl on "White America," his latest bid to simultaneously stake his claim as the voice of his generation (or at least the young, fucked-up, white-male portion of it) and reject the burdens of that title. Me, I vote for his Michigan neighbor, Kid Rock, simply because there's more joy and good humor in his vision of cock-rock rap. While no more original, his pop recycling is somehow more tasteful than the way Eminem apes the misogyny and homophobia of the "real" "streets," an act that wasn't very shocking when Mathers/Eminem's mentor, Dr. Dre, reveled in it on N.W.A's "Niggaz4Life" 12 years ago.

But wait -- I'm falling into the exact trap that Em has laid for us critics, placing undue emphasis on his words at the expense of his music. "I'm just a jokester, saying things to get a rise, and y'all fall for it every time!" he says (I'm paraphrasing, but that's the gist of his argument), and so he once again gives us foul-mouthed insults of easy/obvious or marginal/irrelevant targets (Lynne Cheney and Tipper Gore, Joel Siegel and Moby); violent revenge fantasies about his poor, long-suffering missus, Kim, and bitter spew directed at his lousy, litigious mom ("Cleaning Out My Closet"), in addition to the aforementioned bitch- and fag-baiting.

Yawn. Em is still the rap version of the self-obsessed, solipsistic, angst-ridden-for-no-good-reason 20-something boors fronting all of those Gen Y nü-metal/rape-rock bands, beating their chests during hoary power ballads and growling "Mom and dad divorced! Rarrrggghhh!" like Cookie Monster on 'roids.

So let's do as Emimem asks and forget about the words, shall we? What then are we left with? Well, that celebrated "flow," for one thing, but we've heard it plenty before. Mathers' tongue isn't growing any more nimble with age, and whatever slight pleasure exists in hearing him wrap it around a steady ooze of scatological syllables fades after a track or two. And there are 20 songs on this album, and no Dido to add tuneful relief.

Meanwhile, percolating under our verbose word poet, run the repetitive, transparent hooks of our ol' friend Dre, whose reputation as a masterly producer is one of the greatest cons rock critics have ever perpetrated on their readers. Those cheap synth licks and unimaginative drum-machine grooves have always been nothing more than bad bubblegum. Dre wishes he had a tenth of the creativity of a Max Martin, much less the enduring genius of a Kasenetz/Katz (Ohio Express, 1910 Fruitgum Co., etc.).

Of course, up until now, the kids have been buying this crap by the bushelful, so like his head geek, Mr. Mathers, Dre's been laughing all the way to the bank. But the best tune that either of these guys come up with this time is an extended sample of Aerosmith's "Dream On," and that trick seemed obvious when Run-D.M.C. pulled it in 1986 -- approximately a century ago in pop-music time.

The sophomores who gleefully embraced "The Marshall Mathers LP" are about to graduate from high school now, and they're either heading to college, or bound for the harsh realities of a drudgery-laden minimum-wage workforce. In either case, pumping up the volume as a guy insults "bitches" and "faggots" over kiddie-pop isn't likely to pack the illicit punch it once did. This audience is growing up and moving on, even if Eminem isn't, and recruiting daughter Hailie (or some imitation thereof) for a cameo on the penultimate track, "My Dad's Gone Crazy," doesn't qualify as a sign of maturity. It's just the most obvious example of sheer desperation on an album that pretty much reeks of it.
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby Slill_Slim_Shady » Jan 11th, '11, 19:42

Damn who wrote this?? Canibus??? :coffee:
trinell05 wrote:Eminem looks young as hell in this video. What's his fuckin secret?

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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby IrishShady » Jan 11th, '11, 19:44

The fuck? :confusion:

Slill_Slim_Shady wrote:Damn who wrote this?? Canibus??? :coffee:

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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby DƎRDYPK » Jan 11th, '11, 19:46

didn't really read the review but...


I'll say it again like I said in another thread

DƎRDYPK wrote:would it be better for someone who knows how to make a beat, spit a flow, & make their own art
to review an album
or any other magazine/hip hop blog or whatever with some random Joe behind the desk?



it goes behind my make music before you judge other's work kinda thing (see the sig?)
it don't matter to me if a casual listener hears MY Shit & likes it or not
because I'm also gonna show respect to the greats from now on...
& if Eminem isn't great for saying what he wants over what beat he wants at whatever time he wants
then he is not great...but he IS great...
the way he changed his whole style/sound from Infinite to Recovery is amazing...

disagree....agree or whatever but this is how I feel
Em will always be a artist in my book...not a rapper but a artist
swinging his magical paint brushes with blades in all ya faces like :smoking:
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jan 11th, '11, 19:47

These guys completely missed the significance of this album :facepalm
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby Bistnal » Jan 11th, '11, 19:50

DƎRDYPK wrote:didn't really read the review but...


I'll say it again like I said in another thread

DƎRDYPK wrote:would it be better for someone who knows how to make a beat, spit a flow, & make their own art
to review an album
or any other magazine/hip hop blog or whatever with some random Joe behind the desk?



it goes behind my make music before you judge other's work kinda thing (see the sig?)
it don't matter to me if a casual listener hears MY Shit & likes it or not
because I'm also gonna show respect to the greats from now on...
& if Eminem isn't great for saying what he wants over what beat he wants at whatever time he wants
then he is not great...but he IS great...
the way he changed his whole style/sound from Infinite to Recovery is amazing...

disagree....agree or whatever but this is how I feel
Em will always be a artist in my book...not a rapper but a artist
swinging his magical paint brushes with blades in all ya faces like :smoking:

Or at least someone who UNDERSTANDS that shit and appreciates the genre and culture rather than someone who has no idea wtf they're talking about. And :o at you praising and being positive about Em.
That review was BS...the guy clearly went listening to the album expecting to hear a shitty album and only heard what he wanted to. To be honest, it doesn't really seem like he spent much time listening to the album at all aside from the singles.
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby BILI » Jan 11th, '11, 19:51

And Em is still selling 8 years later,what a fail this review is.
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Jan 11th, '11, 20:01

BILI wrote:And Em is still selling 8 years later,what a fail this review is.


Exactly

This guy is a fucking douche bag.
The devil ain't on a level same as him!
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby xxTrigger1989xx » Jan 11th, '11, 20:18

Metacritic mad, yo...
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby mecuryball » Jan 11th, '11, 21:24

I can only :D at this.
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby NicoleEM » Jan 11th, '11, 22:51

When was this review made?I'm guessing back then when TES came out.Man they were they wrong :facepalm
Some critics do seem like genuine haters.Nothing more nothing less.If TES isn't a masterpiece i don't know what is then :confusion:
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby Fleka » Jan 11th, '11, 23:02

Sure hope this guy will watch the Grammy`s.
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby Chilli » Jan 11th, '11, 23:50

If a reviewer can't be bothered to do their research (ie. look in the booklet/use Wikipedia) to find out who produced the album, I'm not going to bother with taking them seriously as a human being.
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby Elision » Jan 12th, '11, 00:00

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comin after who didn't support us...
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Re: Bad review for 'The Eminem Show'

Postby Master Chief » Jan 12th, '11, 00:33

Too bad no one gives a fuck about a critics :laughing:
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