Eminem rhymes that people might not have noticed (REPOST)

[classthe_king]

well for one it does'nt have to have the same syllable count in order for it to rhyme second eminem uses a technique called assonance which is the repetition of vowel sounds he is rhyming vowel sounds.

Such a retard.

Despite how ridiculous his posts look, he's 100% correct. Syllable count doesn't have to match up for a multie to rhyme. and you guys are fucking terrible at determining the use of assonance.

Leave me alone and feeding my daughter don't rhyme

[classthe_king]

Do you know what sarcasm is?

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Leave me alone and feeding my daughter don't rhyme

I never said they did. Just the part that I quoted was correct.

Also, leave me / feeding and speak to me rhyme.

[classthe_king]

Well if he was using what you quoted to support that leave me alone and feeding my daughter rhyme then that would mean he was not correct

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Well if he was using what you quoted to support that leave me alone and feeding my daughter rhyme then that would mean he was not correct

Hardly. I don't care about the context he was posting in. I was posting toward Amadeo when he replied with, "Such a retard." When the post that he quoted from Juelz was actually 100% accurate, despite his other posts being nonsensical and incorrect.

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We're not determining his use of assonance in this thread, dipshit. We're finding hidden multis/rhymes.

The hilarious thing about you is you think assonance is the DEFINITION of a rhyme, when the definition of assonance is the repetition of vowel sounds in NON-rhyming stressed syllables. You have no clue what you're talking about.

And yes, syllables DO have to match up for it to be a multi, you unbelievable idiot. Shard of glass is NOT a multi with car crash. Yard-dash IS a multi with car crash.

You're beyond wrong. Please show me any definition of a multie syllable rhyme that says syllables must be exactly the same. You won't find one because it's not in the definition.

I think assonance is the definition of a rhyme? If you'd look through my posts (which I know both you and your boyfriend have done multiple times) you'd see that I've defined assonance to people on more than one occasion. You try to put words in people's mouths that they've never said or alluded to, simply because you can't fathom ever being wrong. Well, you're wrong.

Back to multies: To say that a multie must have the exact same syllables is constricting the artist. Music then becomes 'can do's' and 'can't's instead of expression.

Typical slant rhymes are 2 syllables apart from each other and are still multies. Examples of these types of rhymes are:


Corners of my eyes / more than I
Beaten and I'm down / dreams were a clown
Pieces of the pie / we can try
shame and the bitter sweet / sanctity of fitted sheets
Jar upon a shelf / harmless would help


That's from one song. Eminem does it ALL the time, as do a lot of other artists. Namely Sadistik, spoonfull and Slug.

Fuck outta here with your faux knowledge. When you can construct a verse to an instrumental, instead of sitting on an eminem forum and attempting to pick apart his "legendary songs omgz amazing rhymez yo", then you can try to fuck with me.

One example from your idol off the top of my head:

Vinegar in they mouth
figure me out

[Kez]

I swear lately all I see in this place is Block arguing with people

It's either that or Satire and Class lmao

[Mahmoud48]

You're beyond wrong. Please show me any definition of a multie syllable rhyme that says syllables must be exactly the same. You won't find one because it's not in the definition.

Most definitions you will see of multi-syllabic rhyming is rhyming more than one syllable. "Jar upon a shelf/harmless would help" is not RHYMING those syllables, since the syllables don't match up.

Back to multies: To say that a multie must have the exact same syllables is constricting the artist. Music then becomes 'can do's' and 'can't's instead of expression.

No, it doesn't constrict the artist. It's just a term. Rappers aren't going to cry their eyes out if something they wrote doesn't technically qualify as a multi-syllabic rhyme (though I'm sure Eminem when he was in his prime would've stressed over it a little more than other rappers, since he was the best). If they like the line, they'll keep it.

Corners of my eyes / more than I
Beaten and I'm down / dreams were a clown
Pieces of the pie / we can try
shame and the bitter sweet / sanctity of fitted sheets
Jar upon a shelf / harmless would help

Sorry, moron, these aren't multis. The syllables don't align. Multi-syllabic rhyming is rhyming multiple syllables AT A TIME, syllable-for-syllable. With your ridiculous definition (where syllables don't HAVE to line up), it becomes ridiculous, especially in cases where 5 syllables don't match up. So technically "murder a whore" is a multi with "burger in the department store"?

That's from one song. Eminem does it ALL the time, as do a lot of other artists. Namely Sadistik, spoonfull and Slug.

Yes, Eminem does sometimes write shit that doesn't match up syllable-for-syllable (I pointed out one before: shard of glass/car crash). What's your point, loser?

Fuck outta here with your faux knowledge. When you can construct a verse to an instrumental, instead of sitting on an eminem forum and attempting to pick apart his "legendary songs omgz amazing rhymez yo", then you can try to fuck with me.

And you resort, once again, to your predictable, formulaic "I win!" routine.

i be the judge of who wins this little quarrel
Amadeo

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^^^ You're an idiot for attempting to constrict a made-up term to conform to your own definition of it. Show me a definition of multie syllable rhyme (like I said in my previous post) that states every syllable must line up. You won't find one.

A multie syllable rhyme is a rhyme with multiple syllables (wow! Fucking awesome! It actually makes sense!) Those examples have multiple syllables that rhyme. Even if two syllables rhyme, that's still multiple. You do acknowledge that two is, in fact, more than one, right?

And no, my last comment wasn't "I win." It was, "you're a dumb ass and haven't ever fathomed reaching the level of writing it takes to be able to rhyme multies that aren't visible at first glance."

If you perceive that as "I win," then good for me. I win, I suppose.

Again, I'll reiterate that multie syllable rhyming does not mean every syllable rhymes. It means more than one syllable rhymes. No matter how you retort, you're wrong. This shit is my life, do you honestly think I don't know it? You're a spectator. An sofa-coach.

[Satire]

I'm mad that this fight isn't taking place in my legendary thread, tbh. But whatever, nearly 4 star argument so far.

[Block]

Secondly, most multies seen or heard are the same syllables because, for one, it's the easiest form to learn. For two, they typically fit the instrumental better. There are multiple cases where taking out a syllable or two (or adding a syllable or two) actually aids the flow of the verse immensely. That, in no way, means that those rhymes aren't still multie syllable rhymes, just because their syllables don't match up. Syllables don't determine the multies, the instrumental does.

You're an idiot for thinking they have to be the same syllable count. Well, not so much an idiot as an amateur. Maybe both. At any rate, you're wrong; Beyond wrong.

EDIT: Show me any example I mentioned where 5 syllables don't match up? You stupid, insufferable motherfucker.

Just quit.

[EminemInsider]

Secondly, most multies seen or heard are the same syllables because, for one, it's the easiest form to learn. For two, they typically fit the instrumental better. There are multiple cases where taking out a syllable or two (or adding a syllable or two) actually aids the flow of the verse immensely. That, in no way, means that those rhymes aren't still multie syllable rhymes, just because their syllables don't match up. Syllables don't determine the multies, the instrumental does.

You're an idiot for thinking they have to be the same syllable count. Well, not so much an idiot as an amateur. Maybe both. At any rate, you're wrong; Beyond wrong.

EDIT: Show me any example I mentioned where 5 syllables don't match up? You stupid, insufferable motherfucker.

Just quit.

If that's the case, why did Eminem end "I'm Shady" with, "I don't know yet, I'm too scared to get tested" instead of, "I don't know yet, I'm afraid to get tested?"

You see, MY thought on the matter is Eminem figured it wouldn't have done him much good, as "AIDS infested" and "(a)fraid to get tested" don't quite line up. But he easily could've done it, as it would not have altered the flow ("afraid" and "too scared," both two syllables). And let's not pretend he didn't think of it. If I thought of it, he thought of it.

The reality is, you're wrong. You CAN have multis with misaligned syllables, but it's generally considered poor form. And if you want the bars to fit the instrumental better, you do everything in your power to add in words BEFORE the multis, not IN the multis themselves.

The reason for "figure me out" and "vinegar in they mouth" is there was no way to re-word it so the syllables lined up while still retaining the meaning.

BTW, I'm baffled at your insistence that Amadeo is inferior to you in rhyming. Judging from the verses you both submitted for the writing contest, his lyrics contain far more detailed rhyming than yours. The only "non obvious" rhymes YOU had were ones that weren't obvious only because they wouldn't sound similar under normal pronunciation. Oh, and I noticed them pretty much right away, ANYWAY. You don't have the goods to back up this faux-arrogance.

[xxTrigger1989xx]

Holy fucking shit, it's hilariously ironic that Block told me to "get out more" when every time I do log on here (since I'm not on as much), I see him arguing with people who are smarter than him and he ends up looking like an idiot every time. Wow, just wow.

[Mahmoud48]

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[Block]

Hey look, it's Amadeo's ass partner. Awesome. Did he call you and tell you that he just got his ass handed to him and needed you to reply because he had nothing to say that would help his argument? Awww, coochi coo!

And LMAO @ your example. afraid and scared are the same sounding vowels. Dumb ass. Terrible attempt. As I said in a previous post: You fucks are terrible at identifying assonance. Thank you for proving my point for me. You just deaded yourself in this little debate. Anything you reply with after this is null and void, due to the fact you've already shown your lack of knowledge in the subject.

you CAN have misaligned syllables

^^^ Again, proving that I'm right. It doesn't matter if it's "considered poor form" (to who? You? A pseudo-intellectual stan who has never written or recorded a song and listens to Eminem religiously?) Yeah, because that opinion is valid. Apart from that, is it's considered poor form and Eminem does it constantly--and you worship him--what does that say? Think about it.

The reason for "figure me out" and "vinegar in they mouth" was there was no way to re-word it so the syllables lined up while still retaining the meaning

And you know this as a fact? You talked to Marshal Mathers and asked him about this, specifically? No? You didn't? How fucking ironic. Guess what, your opinion on why something is the way it is, doesn't constitute as fact. The reason they are the way they are is because it fits PERFECTLY on the beat. Not "Perfectly syllable by syllable" that doesn't matter. You'd know this if you've ever written or recorded anything. OH, you haven't? What a surprise!


LMAO@ at my rhymes not sounding similar under 'normal pronunciation'. You fucking hypocrite. First of all, show me any example of what you're talking about. Second, you stupid motherfuckers praise eminem for the way he stretches and contorts words from their normal pronunciation in order to make them rhyme.

Dumbest. Mother. Fucker. Ever. Get back on the short bus, you failure.

Secondly, most multies seen or heard are the same syllables because, for one, it's the easiest form to learn. For two, they typically fit the instrumental better. There are multiple cases where taking out a syllable or two (or adding a syllable or two) actually aids the flow of the verse immensely. That, in no way, means that those rhymes aren't still multie syllable rhymes, just because their syllables don't match up. Syllables don't determine the multies, the instrumental does.

You're an idiot for thinking they have to be the same syllable count. Well, not so much an idiot as an amateur. Maybe both. At any rate, you're wrong; Beyond wrong.

EDIT: Show me any example I mentioned where 5 syllables don't match up? You stupid, insufferable motherfucker.

Just quit.

If that's the case, why did Eminem end "I'm Shady" with, "I don't know yet, I'm too scared to get tested" instead of, "I don't know yet, I'm afraid to get tested?"

You see, MY thought on the matter is Eminem figured it wouldn't have done him much good, as "AIDS infested" and "(a)fraid to get tested" don't quite line up. But he easily could've done it, as it would not have altered the flow ("afraid" and "too scared," both two syllables). And let's not pretend he didn't think of it. If I thought of it, he thought of it.

The reality is, you're wrong. You CAN have multis with misaligned syllables, but it's generally considered poor form. And if you want the bars to fit the instrumental better, you do everything in your power to add in words BEFORE the multis, not IN the multis themselves.

The reason for "figure me out" and "vinegar in they mouth" is there was no way to re-word it so the syllables lined up while still retaining the meaning.

BTW, I'm baffled at your insistence that Amadeo is inferior to you in rhyming. Judging from the verses you both submitted for the writing contest, his lyrics contain far more detailed rhyming than yours. The only "non obvious" rhymes YOU had were ones that weren't obvious only because they wouldn't sound similar under normal pronunciation. Oh, and I noticed them pretty much right away, ANYWAY. You don't have the goods to back up this faux-arrogance.