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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby Master Chief » Apr 11th, '11, 20:37

classthe_king wrote:Solace and Spyder both wrote verses with the same rhyme scheme as the second verse and they were both better imo.

And no, forcing words that don't rhyme with an accent while randomly rapping lines that are not connected with each other at all except for him raping and killing someone is not good.

I doubt it but link me to the verses, I wanna judge for myself.

tbh, most of the words did rhyme without need for an accent. Sure, a few of 'em didn't but it's not like during the entire song he was rhyming shit like "bombing" and "ruckus" that would need an accent for a rhyme. The storytelling was focused and vivid (see 2nd verse in particular) it painted a picture in my head... the whole song painetd a picture in my head so imo it was connected and concentrated enough.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby classthe_king » Apr 11th, '11, 20:49

Solace never posted his, he showed it to me on msn and Spyder posted his on another account, I forget what it was.


But no, you're wrong.

But they can't see what I can see there's a vacancy in my tummy
It's makin' me play hide n' seek like Jason I'm so hungry
She's naked see no privacy but I can see she wants me
So patient see I try to be but Gee why does she taunt me
Pulls the drapes and she goes right to sleep and I creep right through the front seat
So blatantly but silently cuz I know that she's sound sleep
Who's wakin' me so violently and why is he on top of me
He's rapin' me she try's to scream somebody please get him off me
He's tapin' me he's biting me he's laughing likes it's funny
She's scrapin' me she's fightin' me she's scratching like some dumb freak
Escapin' me no dice ya see I might just be Ted Bundy
Or Satan gee what a site to see I'm dancing in my red panties
I'm crazy but it's alright with me man life can be so empty
Stay away from me cuz I'm dancing to quite a different drum beat

tummy doesn't rhyme with taunt me, neither rhyme with sound sleep or off me or panties or empty. He's deffinitely forced rhymes with the accent. Then the internals are not impressive at all, outside of the fact that there is a lot of them. But quality > quantity. The long a and the lone e are the easiest syllables to rhyme. In the middle he's not even trying to be creative. Wakin me, rapin me, tapin me, scrapin me and escapin me are not good rhymes. Not to mention the fact that the lines don't go together at all outside of the fact it's about serial killing. He randomly goes back and forth between the rapist and the rape victim without any notification. It's all in the same voice. He goes back and forth between 1st person and third person too
"He's rapin me, she tries to scream, somebody please get him off me"

That's not beaing creative to tell a good story, that's forcing rhymes. The last four lines are the worst. No dice ya see? What was the point of that, and saying he's dancing in his red panties is just stupid. The last line also has nothing to do with anything.


That verse = not good rhyming.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby Block » Apr 11th, '11, 21:02

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Stay Wide Awake's multis are not that good. I would actually say they're poor. Half of creative writing could write songs with better multis

They're good.

No we/they can't write like that.

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99% of my rhyme schemes destroy that, lol.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby Master Chief » Apr 11th, '11, 21:07

classthe_king wrote:Solace never posted his, he showed it to me on msn and Spyder posted his on another account, I forget what it was.


But no, you're wrong.

But they can't see what I can see there's a vacancy in my tummy
It's makin' me play hide n' seek like Jason I'm so hungry
She's naked see no privacy but I can see she wants me
So patient see I try to be but Gee why does she taunt me
Pulls the drapes and she goes right to sleep and I creep right through the front seat
So blatantly but silently cuz I know that she's sound sleep
Who's wakin' me so violently and why is he on top of me
He's rapin' me she try's to scream somebody please get him off me
He's tapin' me he's biting me he's laughing likes it's funny
She's scrapin' me she's fightin' me she's scratching like some dumb freak
Escapin' me no dice ya see I might just be Ted Bundy
Or Satan gee what a site to see I'm dancing in my red panties
I'm crazy but it's alright with me man life can be so empty
Stay away from me cuz I'm dancing to quite a different drum beat

tummy doesn't rhyme with taunt me, neither rhyme with sound sleep or off me or panties or empty. He's deffinitely forced rhymes with the accent. Then the internals are not impressive at all, outside of the fact that there is a lot of them. But quality > quantity. The long a and the lone e are the easiest syllables to rhyme. In the middle he's not even trying to be creative. Wakin me, rapin me, tapin me, scrapin me and escapin me are not good rhymes. Not to mention the fact that the lines don't go together at all outside of the fact it's about serial killing. He randomly goes back and forth between the rapist and the rape victim without any notification. It's all in the same voice. He goes back and forth between 1st person and third person too
"He's rapin me, she tries to scream, somebody please get him off me"

That's not beaing creative to tell a good story, that's forcing rhymes. The last four lines are the worst. No dice ya see? What was the point of that, and saying he's dancing in his red panties is just stupid. The last line also has nothing to do with anything.


That verse = not good rhyming.

I never said he DOESN'T force rhymes I just informed you that he doesn't do it constantly as in... 80% of the time. I know he forces it.

And the 2nd verse is pretty much rhyming whole bars if that's not impressive then I don't know what is. Sure, the words he's using to rhyme aren't as impressive as he's used to but what are you gonna rhyme with when you're pretty much rhyming entire lines? Just because of the fact he's rhyming about 14 syllables is outstanding enough for me. Are the multis Rock Bottom quality? No. Are there more multis here than in Rock Bottom? Whether you like it or not, yes. I don't really mind the quality of the multis in here maybe because the quantity outweighs that. About the rapist and rape victim transition, he let's you know by simply saying she or he repeatedly during the line. He can't switch to narrator because he's telling the story from HIS point of view.

Well, I'll give you that this story isn't as creative as some of his other ones but it paints a perfect picture in mind so I enjoy it. And I'll also give you that I don't understand the usage of dice ya see but the red panties line is funny and it's vivid imo. The last line is connected to the red panties line in which he said he was dancing.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby Devil'sAdvocate » Apr 11th, '11, 21:12

classthe_king wrote:Solace never posted his, he showed it to me on msn and Spyder posted his on another account, I forget what it was.


But no, you're wrong.

But they can't see what I can see there's a vacancy in my tummy
It's makin' me play hide n' seek like Jason I'm so hungry
She's naked see no privacy but I can see she wants me
So patient see I try to be but Gee why does she taunt me
Pulls the drapes and she goes right to sleep and I creep right through the front seat
So blatantly but silently cuz I know that she's sound sleep
Who's wakin' me so violently and why is he on top of me
He's rapin' me she try's to scream somebody please get him off me
He's tapin' me he's biting me he's laughing likes it's funny
She's scrapin' me she's fightin' me she's scratching like some dumb freak
Escapin' me no dice ya see I might just be Ted Bundy
Or Satan gee what a site to see I'm dancing in my red panties
I'm crazy but it's alright with me man life can be so empty
Stay away from me cuz I'm dancing to quite a different drum beat

tummy doesn't rhyme with taunt me, neither rhyme with sound sleep or off me or panties or empty. He's deffinitely forced rhymes with the accent. Then the internals are not impressive at all, outside of the fact that there is a lot of them. But quality > quantity. The long a and the lone e are the easiest syllables to rhyme. In the middle he's not even trying to be creative. Wakin me, rapin me, tapin me, scrapin me and escapin me are not good rhymes. Not to mention the fact that the lines don't go together at all outside of the fact it's about serial killing. He randomly goes back and forth between the rapist and the rape victim without any notification. It's all in the same voice. He goes back and forth between 1st person and third person too
"He's rapin me, she tries to scream, somebody please get him off me"

That's not beaing creative to tell a good story, that's forcing rhymes. The last four lines are the worst. No dice ya see? What was the point of that, and saying he's dancing in his red panties is just stupid. The last line also has nothing to do with anything.


That verse = not good rhyming.

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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby classthe_king » Apr 11th, '11, 21:13

Lol did you just compare stay wide awake's rhymes with rock bottoms? You have no clue what you're talking about. And he's not rhyming the whole lines, there are syllables before the third rhyme that doesn't rhyme. Rhyming full lines isn't really that hard.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby Master Chief » Apr 11th, '11, 21:18

classthe_king wrote:Lol did you just compare stay wide awake's rhymes with rock bottoms? You have no clue what you're talking about. And he's not rhyming the whole lines, there are syllables before the third rhyme that doesn't rhyme. Rhyming full lines isn't really that hard.

Yes, I did. SWA has more multis than Rock Bottom but Rock Bottom has better multis. I'm pretty sure I'm correct on that one but Rock Bottom obviously has better rhyming overall.

For the most part in the entire verse he rhymes whole lines. It is hard to rhyme whole lines for a bunch of bars in a row while maintaining relevance and focus.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby classthe_king » Apr 11th, '11, 21:20

Master Chief wrote:
classthe_king wrote:Lol did you just compare stay wide awake's rhymes with rock bottoms? You have no clue what you're talking about. And he's not rhyming the whole lines, there are syllables before the third rhyme that doesn't rhyme. Rhyming full lines isn't really that hard.

Yes, I did. SWA has more multis than Rock Bottom but Rock Bottom has better multis. I'm pretty sure I'm correct on that one but Rock Bottom obviously has better rhyming overall.

For the most part in the entire verse he rhymes whole lines. It is hard to rhyme whole lines for a bunch of bars in a row while maintaining relevance and focus.


Yes exactly, Rock Bottom has better multis even thoug SWA has more. Quality > Quantity
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby Master Chief » Apr 11th, '11, 21:36

Lello wrote:and when it comes to puttin it next to rock bottom, that's like puttin gaga next to jackson, gaga is talented and all but jackson is jsut on a whole other level

I never compared the overall quality of the songs so this analogy makes no sense.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby dead prez » Apr 11th, '11, 21:38

Devil'sAdvocate wrote: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

No offense DA but this only further leads to my belief that you have an obsession with class.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby classthe_king » Apr 11th, '11, 21:41

dead prez wrote:
Devil'sAdvocate wrote: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

No offense DA but this only further leads to my belief that you have an obsession with class.


Look in the back stage right now, every post I'm making he responds to whether it has anything to do with him or not

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classthe_king wrote:My avy is of Chris McCandless, a man that I admire and relate to.


so you admire a dude who looks like a bum and a hobo,who wasted his life cuz he wanted to climb a fuckin mountain = dumbass

intersting shit!


Seriously, every single one of your posts is about me. I'm afraid one day that I'll look out my window and see you staring in.

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classthe_king wrote:Xray dissing me is like Lil B dissing Copywrite.

This should be funny.


xray can eat through you son,stop acting cocky when u cant back it up.


Yet again, you're following me around in every thread like a little puppy.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby dead prez » Apr 11th, '11, 21:43

I wish I could make someone that butthurt. :(
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby Master Chief » Apr 11th, '11, 21:44

dead prez wrote:I wish I could make someone that butthurt. :(

*points at Eminem section*

Oh and 6 page classic :smoking:
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby classthe_king » Apr 11th, '11, 21:44

dead prez wrote:I wish I could make someone that butthurt. :(


I really don't know why he's in love with me so much. You can have him if you want.
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Re: Most quintessential Hip Hop Album

Postby dead prez » Apr 11th, '11, 21:45

The funniest part is when you can bench his weight, and he can only bench yours. :laughing:
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