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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby vivaldiwasasellout » May 20th, '11, 00:51

mcZu wrote:
vivaldiwasasellout wrote:I don't cheat because I respect my partner and I respect myself

Lol, because you respect your partner? That's all? Not because you love your partner, and actually care about him? Poor guy.


No, it's not all. You can love someone without respecting him, don't you know it?

Love is easy. Respect, integrity and consistency are more difficult, that's why people cheat.

Finally, who are you to judge me? You don't know me :coffee:
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby dR3 » May 20th, '11, 00:53

vivaldiwasasellout wrote:who are you to judge me? You don't know me

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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby Block » May 20th, '11, 01:06

vivaldiwasasellout wrote:
mcZu wrote:
vivaldiwasasellout wrote:I don't cheat because I respect my partner and I respect myself

Lol, because you respect your partner? That's all? Not because you love your partner, and actually care about him? Poor guy.


No, it's not all. You can love someone without respecting him, don't you know it?

Love is easy. Respect, integrity and consistency are more difficult, that's why people cheat.

Finally, who are you to judge me? You don't know me :coffee:


How can you love someone without respecting them? If you don't respect someone, yet claim you love them, you really don't love them at all. The fundamentals of love are respect, loyalty and understanding. Without either one of those three things, you cannot possibly love someone. 'I love you' is often times tossed around by people who have no idea what they're actually saying. If they did, they would more than likely choose their words a lot more carefully.

He's judging you based on your responses in this thread. You said "I don't cheat because I respect my partner and myself." I respect my boss at work, but that doesn't mean I won't go to another company if they pay me more. I respect our troops over in the middle east, but I don't shed a tear when one of them is KIA. If I loved either of the people in these examples I'd be loyal to my boss through thick and thin. I'd stay with that particular company even if I was offered a better paying position somewhere else. I'd be heart-broken when a soldier came back from war in a box.

There's a huge difference between love and respect. You can respect someone without loving them, but you cannot love someone without first respecting them.
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby BigBoss » May 20th, '11, 05:03

I said this before but

I went out and bought my gf roses and brought them to her for a surprise, I caught her in her backyard with some dude making out. I walked up to her and the dude ran... I beat the shit out of her and threw her into her dads tool shed, the whole thing collapsed on her and she didn't move....karma exists imo.

She didn't die, I saw her a couple weeks after that, at school. She had cuts and bruises all over her...happy days :flutter:
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby Kez » May 20th, '11, 05:14

SWEET_TOOTH wrote:I said this before but

I went out and bought my gf roses and brought them to her for a surprise, I caught her in her backyard with some dude making out. I walked up to her and the dude ran... I beat the shit out of her and threw her into her dads tool shed, the whole thing collapsed on her and she didn't move....karma exists imo.

She didn't die, I saw her a couple weeks after that, at school. She had cuts and bruises all over her...happy days :flutter:


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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby ThomasAguanis » May 20th, '11, 05:24

I have the same views as Block on this matter.







But still felt like posting this. It seems appropriate.
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby mcZu » May 20th, '11, 15:08

Block wrote:
vivaldiwasasellout wrote:No, it's not all. You can love someone without respecting him, don't you know it?

Love is easy. Respect, integrity and consistency are more difficult, that's why people cheat.

Finally, who are you to judge me? You don't know me :coffee:


How can you love someone without respecting them? If you don't respect someone, yet claim you love them, you really don't love them at all. The fundamentals of love are respect, loyalty and understanding. Without either one of those three things, you cannot possibly love someone. 'I love you' is often times tossed around by people who have no idea what they're actually saying. If they did, they would more than likely choose their words a lot more carefully.

He's judging you based on your responses in this thread. You said "I don't cheat because I respect my partner and myself." I respect my boss at work, but that doesn't mean I won't go to another company if they pay me more. I respect our troops over in the middle east, but I don't shed a tear when one of them is KIA. If I loved either of the people in these examples I'd be loyal to my boss through thick and thin. I'd stay with that particular company even if I was offered a better paying position somewhere else. I'd be heart-broken when a soldier came back from war in a box.

There's a huge difference between love and respect. You can respect someone without loving them, but you cannot love someone without first respecting them.

Exactly, you took the words right out of my mouth.
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby Slim Fiasco » May 20th, '11, 16:37

I wouldn't cheat in the sense "I'm going out at this club tonight and I will do my best to find a female to cheat my girl with" or date two girls at the same time. But, if I get drunk or something and some girl starts hitting on me, I can't guarantee it.
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby vivaldiwasasellout » May 21st, '11, 14:30

Block wrote:
vivaldiwasasellout wrote:
mcZu wrote:Lol, because you respect your partner? That's all? Not because you love your partner, and actually care about him? Poor guy.


No, it's not all. You can love someone without respecting him, don't you know it?

Love is easy. Respect, integrity and consistency are more difficult, that's why people cheat.

Finally, who are you to judge me? You don't know me :coffee:


How can you love someone without respecting them? If you don't respect someone, yet claim you love them, you really don't love them at all. The fundamentals of love are respect, loyalty and understanding. Without either one of those three things, you cannot possibly love someone. 'I love you' is often times tossed around by people who have no idea what they're actually saying. If they did, they would more than likely choose their words a lot more carefully.

He's judging you based on your responses in this thread. You said "I don't cheat because I respect my partner and myself." I respect my boss at work, but that doesn't mean I won't go to another company if they pay me more. I respect our troops over in the middle east, but I don't shed a tear when one of them is KIA. If I loved either of the people in these examples I'd be loyal to my boss through thick and thin. I'd stay with that particular company even if I was offered a better paying position somewhere else. I'd be heart-broken when a soldier came back from war in a box.

There's a huge difference between love and respect. You can respect someone without loving them, but you cannot love someone without first respecting them.


I really appreciate what you and Mczu said about love and respect, it should be like that. Unfortunately reality is different. I love my father, but I don't respect him and I have my reasons.
I loved a boy so much that it hurted, but he loved cocaine more than he loved me. So I loved him, but I didn't respect him.
Moreover how many people cheat on their partner once (at least) and then come back. Do you think they don't love their companion?
How many people accept a rocky relationship, where the partner treat them like a piece of crap. This is love (a bad love) without respect.
You shouldn't be so manichean...
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby Guess_Who » May 21st, '11, 15:05

vivaldiwasasellout wrote:I really appreciate what you and Mczu said about love and respect, it should be like that. Unfortunately reality is different. I love my father, but I don't respect him and I have my reasons.
I loved a boy so much that it hurted, but he loved cocaine more than he loved me. So I loved him, but I didn't respect him.
Moreover how many people cheat on their partner once (at least) and then come back. Do you think they don't love their companion?
How many people accept a rocky relationship, where the partner treat them like a piece of crap. This is love (a bad love) without respect.
You shouldn't be so manichean...

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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby Block » May 21st, '11, 17:30

vivaldiwasasellout wrote:
I really appreciate what you and Mczu said about love and respect, it should be like that. Unfortunately reality is different. I love my father, but I don't respect him and I have my reasons.
I loved a boy so much that it hurted, but he loved cocaine more than he loved me. So I loved him, but I didn't respect him.
Moreover how many people cheat on their partner once (at least) and then come back. Do you think they don't love their companion?
How many people accept a rocky relationship, where the partner treat them like a piece of crap. This is love (a bad love) without respect.
You shouldn't be so manichean...


Then neither of those examples are love. There's a monumental difference between 'love' and 'infatuation', when speaking in terms of relationships. There's also the need that people sometimes feel to just be with someone, anyone, to fill some sort of void they are feeling in themselves. That's NOT love.

The example about your drug-addicted boyfriend: Let's say that it wasn't infatuation, just for the sake of the argument. If you truly loved him, as you say you did, then you respected him, but not the choices he made. We often times misinterpret our feelings but, if you DID love him as you say you did, you would have had to respect him. You can't love without respect. Respecting a person and respecting their actions is a totally different scenario.

Your example about your father should have been addressed in my first post, but we weren't talking about family. The loving of a family member is a totally different dynamic than loving a member of the opposite sex. The love between family and the love between life-partners is not the same. We were addressing the latter.

Guess_Who wrote:Word :y:
Love and respect are 2 different things.And whoever does not see it,or do not have much experience,or had much luck with relationships.for me there is no debate about possible.

No one said that love and respect aren't two separate entities. I said you cannot love someone without first respecting them, but you CAN respect someone without loving them.

Also, in the examples given above, if they aren't actually infatuation, and are truly love, the loving of said individual would have come before things went down hill. All that really says is that people don't know how to let go and say 'enough is enough'.
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby mcZu » May 21st, '11, 17:44

Also, you can love your parents, but still lose respect for them, because parental love is unconditional love, it's different than loving your spouse.
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby vivaldiwasasellout » May 21st, '11, 18:17

Block wrote:
vivaldiwasasellout wrote:
I really appreciate what you and Mczu said about love and respect, it should be like that. Unfortunately reality is different. I love my father, but I don't respect him and I have my reasons.
I loved a boy so much that it hurted, but he loved cocaine more than he loved me. So I loved him, but I didn't respect him.
Moreover how many people cheat on their partner once (at least) and then come back. Do you think they don't love their companion?
How many people accept a rocky relationship, where the partner treat them like a piece of crap. This is love (a bad love) without respect.
You shouldn't be so manichean...


Then neither of those examples are love. There's a monumental difference between 'love' and 'infatuation', when speaking in terms of relationships. There's also the need that people sometimes feel to just be with someone, anyone, to fill some sort of void they are feeling in themselves. That's NOT love.

The example about your drug-addicted boyfriend: Let's say that it wasn't infatuation, just for the sake of the argument. If you truly loved him, as you say you did, then you respected him, but not the choices he made. We often times misinterpret our feelings but, if you DID love him as you say you did, you would have had to respect him. You can't love without respect. Respecting a person and respecting their actions is a totally different scenario.

Your example about your father should have been addressed in my first post, but we weren't talking about family. The loving of a family member is a totally different dynamic than loving a member of the opposite sex. The love between family and the love between life-partners is not the same. We were addressing the latter.


Congratulations for the arrogance.
You know s*** about my story, but you know it was an infatuation.
You don't deserve any answer :coffee:
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby Block » May 21st, '11, 19:19

vivaldiwasasellout wrote:
Congratulations for the arrogance.
You know s*** about my story, but you know it was an infatuation.
You don't deserve any answer :coffee:
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Please learn to read before getting your vag all muddy. I clearly stated that if it WAS love, as you claim, you would have had to respect him. You cannot love a person without respecting them (parental / family love being the exception because that's a different kind of love).

Block wrote:The example about your drug-addicted boyfriend: Let's say that it wasn't infatuation, just for the sake of the argument. If you truly loved him, as you say you did, then you respected him, but not the choices he made. We often times misinterpret our feelings but, if you DID love him as you say you did, you would have had to respect him. You can't love without respect. Respecting a person and respecting their actions is a totally different scenario.
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Re: Don't cheat...

Postby Guess_Who » May 21st, '11, 19:20

Block wrote:
Guess_Who wrote:Word :y:
Love and respect are 2 different things.And whoever does not see it,or do not have much experience,or had much luck with relationships.for me there is no debate about possible.

No one said that love and respect aren't two separate entities. I said you cannot love someone without first respecting them, but you CAN respect someone without loving them.

Also, in the examples given above, if they aren't actually infatuation, and are truly love, the loving of said individual would have come before things went down hill. All that really says is that people don't know how to let go and say 'enough is enough'.


believe me you can love someone and much and have 0 respect for that person.I tell you from experience,and I don´t speak of love for your parents.
There are a lot of difficult relationships,in which both parties are treated like shit,in all the bad ways that you can imagine,but they are still together because they love each other.
I had a relationship with a person who had many problems,and he made things that made me lose all respect for him.But I loved him so much that leave him was a really hard decision.
So yes im sure you can love someone and have 0 respect for him,because I felt that.
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