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Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby EminemBase » Dec 2nd, '11, 06:35

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EminemBase wrote:Ridiculous that Dre's name is on this song as the lead artist.

When... Eminem has two verses and somebody else is on the hook lmao.

So he has one verse, written by somebody else (probably Em). And he's also a producer, and didn't even produce the track, how absurd. He's literally a rap actor then. Just says lines written for him.

I'd call this an Eminem song.
Even though Dre produced, mixed (probably) and had a verse..Em dominated the track.


Yeah and Em confirms the concept, makes it what it is.
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby EminemBase » Dec 2nd, '11, 07:36

Menzo wrote:Alex Da Kid produced this, didn't he? It's definitely an Eminem song and you can tell Em wrote the second half of Dre's verse with the "Aftermath faggots/lab jackets/crack maggots" rhyme scheme.


Yeah it's also ridiculous that all Dre does in every song is remind people of his past achievements lmao. I mean... a lead single off an album, talking about your label and how you're done after this album... it's quite bizarre when you look at it objectively.

Dre has been reminding people of his past since like 1999. It's like... yeah, when you gonna create some new material NOT about your past, to justify your status NOW lmao.
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby EminemBase » Dec 2nd, '11, 09:32

^ Yeah but Dre isn't a rapper. He may have rapped, and does rap but...

I think you have to write your own lyrics to be a rapper. I mean, if you were to be pedantic, technically anybody who rapped is a rapper but, to truly be one...

Dre gets his shit written for him, he's an actor, he reads lines. Doesn't create ideas.
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby Mathers » Dec 2nd, '11, 09:45

EminemBase wrote:^ Yeah but Dre isn't a rapper. He may have rapped, and does rap but...

I think you have to write your own lyrics to be a rapper. I mean, if you were to be pedantic, technically anybody who rapped is a rapper but, to truly be one...

Dre gets his shit written for him, he's an actor, he reads lines. Doesn't create ideas.

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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby Francesco » Dec 2nd, '11, 10:21

Dre use ghost writers but he writes a lot of his verses himself, esp. in the past & there's nothing wrong with it 'cuz rappers with iconic status like Snoop, LL & many more use ghost writers as well. You don't need to be a lyricist to be a rapper, esp. if you're a producer/rapper. That is the reason why those rappers are never considered as the best, no matter their legacy but it doesn't mean they can't get a Grammy award.
Of course it's Dre's song, it doesn't even matter who does the verses, he owns the song. He bought the beat and asked EM to drop two verses & maybe to write his own too. That's absolutely normal, again esp. for a producer/rapper.
This faggot DJ Khaled is nominated for 'I'm on one' in the same category as 'INAD' & most likely will win it & he's not even on HIS song as Drake, Ross & Wayne do all the rapping, but it is HIS song 'cuz it's on HIS album. Let alone DJ's like Tony Touch, Funk Flex, Kay Slay, Clue, Khaled etc. drop full lenght albums without a single verse of their own but that does not mean it's not their album.
This is elementary stuff even for people with basic knowledge... let alone Grammys count for both artists anyway so if 'INAD' won it, EM will have it too.
On top of it the subject matter on the song is all about Dre... & Eminem says it himself in it that Dre is the reason for him to even be there.
The only weird thing is Dre almost bought the millionth Jimmy/Interscope fuck up & was gonna use another producer's beat on his own album only 'cuz of commercial purpose... & that's naturaly a paradox & the reason why later on Dre decided to drop 'INAD' from the album, so if it won a Grammy award it'd be as a non album song.
Off topic... Jimmy is a piece of shit & the reason some of his artists sell is their own charisma, not Interscope's idiotic planning & marketing & the latest proof of it is Yela's album. The big bang Shady 2.0 started off with 40k first week sales while wack Mac Miller did 150k indipendently the week before.
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby Sam. » Dec 2nd, '11, 19:47

lol ^ Do you know what a Paragraph is?
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby Manly Moose » Dec 3rd, '11, 01:18

I think Dres problem is he hasnt surrounded himself with new people. I think the reason theres so much difference between the two Chronics is because he was on different labels, meaning that he had a new "room full of musicians" to work with.
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby Emadyville » Dec 3rd, '11, 04:07

EminemBase wrote:Ridiculous that Dre's name is on this song as the lead artist.

When... Eminem has two verses and somebody else is on the hook lmao.

So he has one verse, written by somebody else (probably Em). And he's also a producer, and didn't even produce the track, how absurd. He's literally a rap actor then. Just says lines written for him.


This song came on the rap tv channel yesterday, and it was labeled Dr. Dre/Skylar Grey so yeah, I feel you on how stupid it is not being considered an eminem song :facepalm
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby Ethos » Dec 4th, '11, 13:36

Congrats on them getting the nominations. Chances are the winners will be either "All of the lights" for both categories. Or "I'm on one" and "Otis". Let's be honest as good of a song as "I Need a Doctor" is, the Grammys are all about what is popular and has sales. (of course they have exceptions liked when they gave away Em's AOTY award to arcade Fire last year.)
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby legendstatus » Dec 4th, '11, 18:24

Ethos wrote:Congrats on them getting the nominations. Chances are the winners will be either "All of the lights" for both categories. Or "I'm on one" and "Otis". Let's be honest as good of a song as "I Need a Doctor" is, the Grammys are all about what is popular and has sales. (of course they have exceptions liked when they gave away Em's AOTY award to arcade Fire last year.)

I agree, I believe its going to be I'm On One vs All Of The Lights. The Grammy's are going through their "phase" some times they go with the pretentious stuck up prissy bitch schtick, for example what happened last year and they go for the indie artists and then we have the other side of the Grammy's which is beginning to show. The popularity side, the only explanation as to how Rhianna was nominated for AOTY. Sadly they now started to go towards that direction instead of 10 years ago when people were selling mills, by those terms Eminem would have won everything lol.
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Re: Dr. Dre & Em/Skylar Grey nominated for 2 Grammy's

Postby Sam. » Dec 4th, '11, 19:22

EminemBase wrote:^ Yeah but Dre isn't a rapper. He may have rapped, and does rap but...

I think you have to write your own lyrics to be a rapper. I mean, if you were to be pedantic, technically anybody who rapped is a rapper but, to truly be one...

Dre gets his shit written for him, he's an actor, he reads lines. Doesn't create ideas.

We realize this fact, but can this fact be put in the open? I don't think so.
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