Eminem has different types of fans

[NextEpisode]

Just as people have different taste in music/movies/food/etc..., people like different parts of Em's catalog. Is it really surprising?

[Aftermathers]

I been listening to Eminem since The Slim Shady LP but what made me a fan were these 2 Songs from the Album. Rock Bottom and If I Had basically Songs i really connected to and relate to basically the only Eminem Songs on that Album oppossed to the rest which were Slim Shady Alter Ego.


My fave Album by him is The Eminem Show again because of the Deep Content, Emotion, Pain and how heart felt the Songs were that is basically why i love Em's Music and i loved Recovery for the same reason.

[Aftermathers]

To make it clear and i know many Em fans like this i became a fan after hearing Rock Bottom and If I Had from The Slim Shady LP but don't like The Slim Shady Persona because Shock Value and Cartoonish Music isn't my thing to me Content and Emotion is the most important aspect and why i am a fan of Eminem oppossed to the Shady Alter Ego.


Songs like Rock Bottom, If I Had, The Way I Am, Stan, Hailies Song, Soldier, Till I Collapse, Sing For The Moment, Say Goodbye To Hollywood, Mockingbird, When I'm Gone etc i love and why i listen to Eminem for because of the Content, Emotion, Passion, Lyrics, Production and Hooks/Melody basically the Deep and real Eminem.


Songs like My Name Is, Stay Wide Awake, Underground, Big Weenie, Just Lose It, etc basically The Slim Shady Alias i am not a fan of cos Shock Content, Cartoonish Raps etc is not my thing

[SliK]

To make it clear and i know many Em fans like this i became a fan after hearing Rock Bottom and If I Had from The Slim Shady LP but don't like The Slim Shady Persona because Shock Value and Cartoonish Music isn't my thing to me Content and Emotion is the most important aspect and why i am a fan of Eminem oppossed to the Shady Alter Ego.


Songs like Rock Bottom, If I Had, The Way I Am, Stan, Hailies Song, Soldier, Till I Collapse, Sing For The Moment, Say Goodbye To Hollywood, Mockingbird, When I'm Gone etc i love and why i listen to Eminem for because of the Content, Emotion, Passion, Lyrics, Production and Hooks/Melody basically the Deep and real Eminem.


Songs like My Name Is, Stay Wide Awake, Underground, Big Weenie, Just Lose It, etc basically The Slim Shady Alias i am not a fan of cos Shock Content, Cartoonish Raps etc is not my thing

So, you can't even appreciate songs like Stay Wide Awake, for it's amazing rhyme schemes and impecacble flow? And Nobody really likes Big weenie or Just Lose It, not because they're cartoonish but because they're horrible. Slim Shady isn't to blame for them, Marshall Mathers is for eating pills.

What about the song EminemBase mentioned, 'Criminal', which on the outside is just a "Slim Shady Alter Ego" song, but has a deeper meaning to it. 'Who Knew' is the same and such an underrated song. It sums up a lot of what the album as a whole represents. It's blaringly obvious with lines like "It'd make you get a gun and shoot at a cop/ I just said it, I ain't know if you'd do it or not'. That line is a shock value line, that he uses to deliver a very serious message. A lot of his songs are like this. How do you classify those?

[Blu]

I hate when people say that.

"Oh, you aren't a big Eminem fan because you haven't heard of his old work!"

Since when is it necessary to hear an artists entire discography just to be classified as a "fan"?

A person who has only heard of Recovery and claims to be a big fan is the same as a person who has heard his first four albums and also claims to be a big fan.

[Stanforever]

I hate when people say that.

"Oh, you aren't a big Eminem fan because you haven't heard of his old work!"

Since when is it necessary to hear an artists entire discography just to be classified as a "fan"?

A person who has only heard of Recovery and claims to be a big fan is the same as a person who has heard his first four albums and also claims to be a big fan.

this.i became his fan after listening to relapse and i consider it as a classic....so what?i'm i not a stan?

[EminemBase]

I hate when people say that.

"Oh, you aren't a big Eminem fan because you haven't heard of his old work!"

Since when is it necessary to hear an artists entire discography just to be classified as a "fan"?

A person who has only heard of Recovery and claims to be a big fan is the same as a person who has heard his first four albums and also claims to be a big fan.

Well I don't really care who's heard what, I'm not concerned with other people.

But, somebody who has only heard Recovery is NOT the same as somebody who has heard all his albums. They will, by definition have a different perspective on him due to the fact their first ever time of hearing him (or any artist) was a different album / style.

They haven't experienced the evolution and don't have the same kind of appreciation of him as an artist or person. I don't care either way, I'm not going to waste my day labeling people.

But just for the sake of discussion, it's not.

If two people know person X, and person A has known this person since childhood, let's say... ten years +, and person B has known this person for one week - do you think person A and person B know person X the same, and that there's no difference? do think person B has as much insight and understanding of person X, having known him for a week... vs. TEN YEARS?...

They're both fans, just as both know person X. But it's not the same.

[Darkfox]

Yeah I've notice this also.

Personally I like both styles of music that Eminem sings. I think that Eminem is one of the few people who can do serious songs and silly songs, and that takes talent.

[djdixie]

But, somebody who has only heard Recovery is NOT the same as somebody who has heard all his albums. They will, by definition have a different perspective on him due to the fact their first ever time of hearing him (or any artist) was a different album / style.

They haven't experienced the evolution and don't have the same kind of appreciation of him as an artist or person. I don't care either way, I'm not going to waste my day labeling people.

But just for the sake of discussion, it's not.

If two people know person X, and person A has known this person since childhood, let's say... ten years +, and person B has known this person for one week - do you think person A and person B know person X the same, and that there's no difference? do think person B has as much insight and understanding of person X, having known him for a week... vs. TEN YEARS?...

They're both fans, just as both know person X. But it's not the same.

This is what i was trying to say. I tryed to keep it short and worded it wrong.

[Fleka]

Let me clear up this argument for you with my incredible greatness.

Eminem, being the greatest ever in everything, has fans. These fans, overcome by his greatnes, divide themselves in three (3) groups. Three types of fans.

Type 1-fans that think he is the greatest ever and the only one worth listening. Those fans mimic his moves, stalk Haillie on Facebook, tattoo his face on them... They listen only to Eminem, but, when asked who are the top rappers, they all say-Em, 50, Yella, D12... We can call them SuicideStans. But, the truth is, they are an insult for true Stans. Being Stan is much more than blind love for Marshy.

Type 2-fans that think he is the greatest ever and that pisses them off, so the "hate" him. You can recognize them by the constant hate and trash talk. But they come to forums like this one, and stay for years. We call them DelusionalStans. They hate themselves for being Stans but THEY THINK they hate Eminem. Like that is possible.

Type 3-fans that think he is the greatest ever, but also have open minds to listen to other artists and music genders. By opening their minds to others they are the only ones that can truly grasp the greatness of Eminem. They are called TrueStans. That is a group od wonderfull people. Nobody stupid can be a TrueStan.

And, ther are people that haven`t yet discovered the greatness od Eminem. They are either babies, blind and deaf or dead. We call them ToBeStans. They adoore something, but don`t know what. Yet. They will become members of one of the three main groups.

[JustEnjoytheMusic]

Let me clear up this argument for you with my incredible greatness.

Eminem, being the greatest ever in everything, has fans. These fans, overcome by his greatnes, divide themselves in three (3) groups. Three types of fans.

Type 1-fans that think he is the greatest ever and the only one worth listening. Those fans mimic his moves, stalk Haillie on Facebook, tattoo his face on them... They listen only to Eminem, but, when asked who are the top rappers, they all say-Em, 50, Yella, D12... We can call them SuicideStans. But, the truth is, they are an insult for true Stans. Being Stan is much more than blind love for Marshy.

Type 2-fans that think he is the greatest ever and that pisses them off, so the "hate" him. You can recognize them by the constant hate and trash talk. But they come to forums like this one, and stay for years. We call them DelusionalStans. They hate themselves for being Stans but THEY THINK they hate Eminem. Like that is possible.

Type 3-fans that think he is the greatest ever, but also have open minds to listen to other artists and music genders. By opening their minds to others they are the only ones that can truly grasp the greatness of Eminem. They are called TrueStans. That is a group od wonderfull people. Nobody stupid can be a TrueStan.

And, ther are people that haven`t yet discovered the greatness od Eminem. They are either babies, blind and deaf or dead. We call them ToBeStans. They adoore something, but don`t know what. Yet. They will become members of one of the three main groups.

That one made me laugh. Thanks. I needed that.

[Vinyl]

Hey this is my first post, apologies in advance for being long winded but I've been reading these forums for a while and finally decided to join. Don't know how active I'll be but I did want to add my two cents to this.

I think every artist has different fans. Some follow from the beginning, some join later on when a particular single catches their ear etc etc. That's just music.

I was 11 when Slim Shady LP came out, so I grew up on Eminem. I would agree with what some have said on here that if you've been following his progression from the beginning, your view on his music is different.

In regards to his fans being split based on content, I would have to agree in the sense that, although I do enjoy his darker content, it pales in comparison to his emotionally driven songs.

I look at it on a bigger scale. When you see what him, Jay-Z and Kanye West are doing; they're trying to do more with rap than what was previously possible. They're not looking to be compared to artists in their own genre. They want to be compared to artists like Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, Bob Dylan. Artists that have stood the test of time and rank among the greatest songwriters period. They also want to go for longevity. The shelf life of a rapper was relatively short up until this point. The biggest rappers before these guys came were Biggie and Pac obviously. Sadly, they passed so we'll never know how far they could have taken this genre. Artists before them that shaped the game like Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, etc etc have either retired from making music or are making music under the radar. This is the first we've seen rap artists last this long in terms of relevancy. They want to show they can tour into their old(er) age like the great artists before them from other genres.

Eminem cannot get there on lyricism alone. While I think his ability to put rhymes together is by far the best I've ever seen, and doubt someone new will come along and top what he's done with words; his bread and butter is in his ability to connect with his listeners. We could argue who the most lyrical rapper is all day, but how many of those people you stack against him have songs like Lose Yourself and Sing For The Moment in their arsenal. For a lot of emcees, they either decide to go full board lyrical at the expense of not making emotional songs, or they focus on bringing emotion but at the risk of watering down their lyrical ability. Eminem does both without sacrificing either.

Lines like "You're lying to yourself, you're slowly dying, you're denying your health is declining with your self esteem, you're crying out for help". "Seize the moment, try to freeze it own it, squeeze it and hold it, cause we consider these minutes golden". "All I ever felt was dissed, helplessness, imprisioned by a selfish bitch. Chewed me up and spit me out I fell for this so many times it's ridiculous, and still I stick with this" are very sound lyrically but they also paint a clear and vivid picture and express what he's feeling. He also sticks to problems I would assume most could relate to. From relationships, to being broke (his earlier stuff) to battling demons. Never brags about what he can afford or how famous he is, instead writes about the pitfalls of fame as opposed to the benefits. I mean, he even admits when his material isn't up to his standards. How many other rappers are that honest? Most rappers nowadays are playboy pimp killers with infinite bank accounts and no personal flaws. Oh yeah, they also have "swag". He writes about subjects most can relate to.

Although we all love his technical ability, I would say the two biggest reasons he's been able to withstand the test of time is 1.) Ability to connect emotionally to his listeners 2.) His versatility. I used to be a total hip hop head. I mean underground, mainstream, old school, new school. Everything. Now I listen pretty much exclusively to rock with the exception of Eminem. He fulfills all my rap needs. Emotional songs, dark songs, funny songs, songs that make you think, songs with raw lyricism. He even uses different voices!

I'm just a little upset that throughout his entire career, he's really only made the kind of content I'm talking about a few times (Eminem Show/8 Mile, Recovery). It looks as if though that is going to be the new norm for him. Like I said before; he's not trying to beat other rappers at this point. That battle has been over. Him and Jay-Z are both looking at a bigger picture. Call it maturity or whatever it may be. But they're eyeing a bigger prize. And songs about rape and murder are not going to get him there. He has plenty of shock/violent/dark songs in his catalog for people to feast on. He has to move past that now I think. You cant expect a man who is near 40 to make the same kind of material he did when he was in his 20s. You have to show progression as a human being.

[VanessaEmily]

I’m a big fan of Eminem I’m listening to their songs from the day I know them. I’m madly loved with Marshall Bruce voice and I’m so impressed to him as well.