Why do a lotta even though it's a minority of Em fans

[Eedee]

The Eminem Show only had 2 funny/shock/Slim Shady Alias Songs on it Without Me and My Dads Gone Crazy every other Song on there was Deep/Emotional/Personal. Every Song on Recovery aside from WTP was Deep/Introspective.

I'ma call bullshit twice.

Your first point, you're forgetting "Drips".

Your second point, are you forgetting "Cold Wind Blows", "On Fire", "Won't Back Down", "Untitled", "Session One", "Almost Famous" (a case can be made either way for AF, but I'd say it's not in the 'deep/introspective' category) and "So Bad"?

[Aftermathers]

Superman is a Concept and Emotional Song about the troubles he has in relationships, Drip's is a Concept Song with a message about the dangers of H.I.V. Both Songs having Substance.


Cold Wind Blows, On Fire, Won't Back Down etc are not Slim Shady Shock Value Songs.

[Elision]

Superman is a Concept and Emotional Song about the troubles he has in relationships, Drip's is a Concept Song with a message about the dangers of H.I.V. Both Songs having Substance.

come on.. you don't even believe that.. just stop it

Probably because prior he ragged on a lot of mainstream pop singers.

This. It's blatant inconsistency.

[Kill You]

Not Afraid and Going Through Changes were the only songs remotely alike...the other songs are not serious tracks.

You need to listen to the Album every Song aside from a few had a Message, Substance about personal struggles.

I've listened to the album A LOT lol. I love Recovery. Half of it is serious/deep, half of it isn't...not every song talks about his struggles. Seduction talks about him seducing hip hop personified as a girl, not a deep song at all for example. So Bad isn't deep, Untitled isn't deep, Almost Famous isn't deep although it does have some of his struggles in it...a good amount of tracks on Recovery aren't deep or personal songs. And tbh I like it better that way, I don't want every single song to be serious or personal...sometimes I just wanna hear good rapping and not worry about content like what was on BME.

I also retract my claim about Cinderella Man earlier...it isn't a serious or deep song, but it IS a somewhat personal song. It's DEFINITELY about his struggles.

Also Menzo put it perfectly about Superman...that song isn't emotional lol. Drips definitely isn't emotional too, I don't know where you got that idea...

[EminemBase]

Because Eminem made it his business to explicitly insult those kinds of artists to separate himself from them, to stop himself being lumped in and compared with them.

So from the outside it looks like hypocrisy. But, in my mind he hasn't really done an unjustified collaboration yet, other than maybe Pink, which was also wasted.

But the Rihanna collab was artistically brilliant. To put her, the victim of the most public domestic abuse case in recent times, on the hook of THAT track, to create that paradox. It's very similar to when he performed with Elton in front of GLAAD protesters.

That is what most people miss about the track, and it's actually a very good sign as to how he's thinking, artistically. As he's thinking bigger, and trying to push buttons again, in a meaningful way.

"Love the Way You Lie" is ENHANCED by Rihanna, it is what it is because of Rihanna. A lot of people say they wished Sasha Grey had sung on it but that would make the track much less interesting. Then it would be a, still very well written, but normal song about domestic violence. Rihanna singing the hook elevates it, creates a paradox and makes it something special.

[Trimss]

So from the outside it looks like hypocrisy. But, in my mind he hasn't really done an unjustified collaboration yet, other than maybe Pink, which was also wasted.

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Exactly what I was saying. They could have done something so much better.

[Kill You]

Exactly. I don't know why you assume that Aftermathers. That's certainly not the case. I may have said I lean a little bit more towards the Shady side, but Eminem/Marshall Mathers is still awesome...that's who makes all the songs I like to relate to. When I wanna relate to something (assuming I'm in an Eminem mood) then I put on shit like TES, 8 Mile, some of Encore, and Recovery. If I'm in a "fuck the world" or "I don't give a fuck" mood then I put on some SSLP, MMLP, Relapse, or H:TS.

[Emadyville]

Probably because prior he ragged on a lot of mainstream pop singers.

only reason i can think of.

op does make a good point tho

[Fleka]

LTWYL-Rihanna was there for a reason. Stop bitching.

[doris]

"Love the Way You Lie" is ENHANCED by Rihanna, it is what it is because of Rihanna. A lot of people say they wished Sasha Grey had sung on it but that would make the track much less interesting.

[Fleka]

"Love the Way You Lie" is ENHANCED by Rihanna, it is what it is because of Rihanna. A lot of people say they wished Sasha Grey had sung on it but that would make the track much less interesting.

WANK!!!!

[kiki]

Personally I would laugh my ass off (LITERALLY!) if he EVER collaborated with Britney!

PS I'm sure someone in here mixed up Skylar grey and Sasha Grey lol

[Eedee]

"Love the Way You Lie" is ENHANCED by Rihanna, it is what it is because of Rihanna. A lot of people say they wished Sasha Grey had sung on it but that would make the track much less interesting.

WANK!!!!

Already beat you to it.

[Sukot]

As others have said, I'm sure it's really just that he used to diss pop stars that they didn't like him doing a song with Rihanna.

I think it's the same reason why people don't like Em rapping on a techno beat, because he dissed techno in Without Me, so again, people don't like Em to go back on his words.

[Kill You]

^ Has he ever rapped on a techno beat? I don't think he has...correct me if I'm wrong.