Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 NO SNIPPET DISCUSSION

[yoda you can call me]

Does anyone hope eminem has some political commentary on mmlp2? That would be especially dope and, if pulled off successfully, would help him expand his art form. Keep in mind, I am wanting him to go further and more complex than'Mosh' or "We as Americans" - I want him to comment on socioeconomic conditions of Detroit, violence, crime, and its overall connection to the institutional systems. I want him to start of a movement with MMLP2. THat's the only way I really see him out doing the original impact of the first MMLP. He has an enormous fanbase and core following to pull this off. Imagine if Eminem had what 2pac had with the thug life movement or what Ice-T, Deathrow records, and NWA had with gangsta rap, or even what Kendrick has with the Hi-power movement? It would be incredible and would really represent the revitalization of what hip-hop really was and can be. What do you motherfuckers think?

i think he may touch on it, but only in relation to him, all that really political stuff should be left to immortal tech, nobody does it better than him imo

[Satan]

get out

So tell me why Insane is so great to you, and I will tell you why it's atrocious to me.

[TheVipBro]

Anyone have the Eminem Lithograf without the "SAMPLE" water mark ?

[monobloss]

Anyone have the Eminem Lithograf without the "SAMPLE" water mark ?

[Innovation]

His flow on Insane is pretty awesome.

[SoldierShady]

Anyone have the Eminem Lithograf without the "SAMPLE" water mark ?

The people who bought it probably do.

[TRickster]

His flow on Insane is pretty awesome.

It is but his lyrics are what makes the song unlistenable

[ganjakush56]

I've got a Recovery review coming someday this week. I started it already, but I'm publishing it all at the same time. The album actually improved when I gave it a fair chance without preconcieved notions playing a factor. It's still probably below Encore for me, but I no longer think it's a bad album.

I'm curious about why you believe that Encore is a better album than Recovery. I strongly disagree with this but I am still curious about your reasoning.

If one looks at all of Eminem's albums as a continuation of a story, Recovery is a much better album than Encore and even Relapse. His discography is an autobiographical masterpiece and being so, Recovery represents a much needed chapter of Eminem's life. I hope this is making sense. By the way, I am not hating on Encore or Relapse either; they are both fantastic, if not great, albums with the latter being the better in my opinion.

[ringoffirejrc]

Encore is fucking terrible.

[monobloss]

Anyone have the Eminem Lithograf without the "SAMPLE" water mark ?

[ganjakush56]

Does anyone hope eminem has some political commentary on mmlp2? That would be especially dope and, if pulled off successfully, would help him expand his art form. Keep in mind, I am wanting him to go further and more complex than'Mosh' or "We as Americans" - I want him to comment on socioeconomic conditions of Detroit, violence, crime, and its overall connection to the institutional systems. I want him to start of a movement with MMLP2. THat's the only way I really see him out doing the original impact of the first MMLP. He has an enormous fanbase and core following to pull this off. Imagine if Eminem had what 2pac had with the thug life movement or what Ice-T, Deathrow records, and NWA had with gangsta rap, or even what Kendrick has with the Hi-power movement? It would be incredible and would really represent the revitalization of what hip-hop really was and can be. What do you motherfuckers think?

i think he may touch on it, but only in relation to him, all that really political stuff should be left to immortal tech, nobody does it better than him imo

That's the thing. Immortal Technique appeals to much smaller audience than Eminem. This audience is most likely composed of fundamentalist hip hop fans (basically hip hop heads). Eminem is in the perfect position to bring the commentary on the issues that Immortal Technique touches on at times to the mainstream - this would vastly change the culture of hip hop and, in the long run, of metropolitan areas and middle america (these are populations in which mainstream hip hop caters to).

[ShadyOnFire]

get out

So tell me why Insane is so great to you, and I will tell you why it's atrocious to me.

It's funny and twisted as fuck, his flows and rhyming are classic Shady, the beat is GOAT, and it's creative in terms of story telling.

[Rhan]

Encore is fucking terrible.

That comment is the definition of overreacting.




Encore is dope. Just not as dope as SSLP, MMLP, TES and Relapse.

[Raul]

Encore is overhated.

[Satan]

get out

So tell me why Insane is so great to you, and I will tell you why it's atrocious to me.

It's funny and twisted as fuck, his flows and rhyming are classic Shady, the beat is GOAT, and it's creative in terms of story telling.

So basically, this is Eminem when he feels like he's in the "zone" like in 1999/2000. It's awful. The first bar is a Recovery punchline, and it's not even a decent or even passable one, it's almost as bad as the "steaks are high" punchline, tbh. Eminem had a self-aware feeling during those years, he knew what he was doing. This song wants to be the Brain Damage of the album, you can tell, and it fails. This is what soccer moms thought Eminem was in 1999, while he was actually far more skilled and intelligent than what they believed him to be. The way this is presented is irritatingly simple and bland, not generic mind you, but just bland. I, at first, thought he was just joking around with this, but he apparently wanted a song that would make you sick. Problem is, it tries way too hard to do this, instead coming across as an imitator's Eminem song, fresh from 1999. The last few bars of the first verse are not bad, and the hook is very well done. However, the second and third verse are grossly awful. The song doesn't gross anyone out, it just stupidly humilliating for Eminem. The concept is paperthin, and is nearly non-existent. Lines like "WOULD YOU RATHER GET FELCHED OR DO THE FELCHING" are so forced that you have to wonder what kind of advice caused him to go through with this song. The middle of the second verse is almost like a joke, but it's funny (unintentionally), he's basically talking in this badass serious voice about how he's playing ping pong WITH HIS OWN DING DONG! If using "wee wee" made late-20's Marshall sound immature, then nearly 40 year old Marshall saying "dang-dong" is just fucking awful. His artistic immunity was being destroyed by Encore, and his first instinct while coming back was to make a song about how his non-existent step-father molested him. Jesus. Brain Damage was based on a somewhat real event, just exaggerated with his genius skills to the point where it seems unrealistic. Insane is a made up story that has no focus, no integrity, and no use of skills. Also, of course, the rhyming and flow are not there to save him. Flow is as generic as the sheet of paper he wrote the song on. Rhyming isn't good either, and is also strangely generic (felching/belching/helping) (ping pong/ding dong/king kong).

I wrote this for my scrapped Relapse review. But I can see why one would enjoy it. I am aware I'm taking it too seriously, but my opinion still stands.