Eminem - MMLP 2 - NOV. 5, 2013 NO SNIPPET DISCUSSION

[unbound88]

lol this is amazing, this album refuses to leak!

[MikeBett]

I said it a few hours ago and I'll say it again. It won't leak.

Lol I said it before and i'll say it again...They all leak around 5 days before release now...
I believe Yeezus leaked on Thur or Fri before the Tue release

[4Corners]

It'll leak, they always do. It takes much less now days. Born Sinner was like a little over a week, Yeezus was like 3-4 days. They don't leak two weeks or earlier like they did 3-4 years ago.

[VINTAGƎ]

Anyone else noticed how no one talks about Rap God? It's almost like there's no point. It's like: "Yep"

Well I said in another thread that, when TI named his album King, guys from all over were getting at him. Same when Kendrick said he was King of NY. A shit ton of NY rappers got at him.

Eminem said he was the GOD...not of Detroit, not of white rappers...of RAP, and to my knowledge, no one said anything.

Like he said on Untitled, emcees get so quiet you can hear a motherfucking dog whistle when I walk by.

No one is gonna get on a record and call out Eminem.

to be fair, both Jay Z and Kanye called themselves Gods this year. Oh, Tech N9ne did it 2 years ago. see sig

True, but were they more so talking about themselves, or their music? I think Kanye legitimately believes he's not a human being but rather a deity. Not that he's a god of rap but a god of life.

Eminem called himself rap god.

I think rappers wouldn't go at Jay or Kanye out of respect, but wouldn't go at Eminem out of fear.

After what they heard on that record.

[minwager]

YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO FUCKING LEAK
NOW LEAK BITCH LEAK
LEAK BITCH LEAK
LEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAK

[4Corners]

People respect Eminem, to the fullest.

Jay even referenced getting murdered on Renegade on A Star is Born, and I believe Kanye (though I hate him) said something along the lines of when everyone heard Ems Forever verse, he felt he had to go back and re write his shit because nothing was fucking with it.

People will hate on this, but it seems that Recovery and Hell the Sequel got Em his respect back in a sense.

[therapist]

Jay Z died with renegade. It was natural selection. Evolution if you will.

[4Corners]

Jay Z died with renegade. It was natural selection. Evolution if you will.

To be fair, Jay did release a classic after getting renegaded.....The Black Album

[MikeBett]

Jay Z died with renegade. It was natural selection. Evolution if you will.

Does this even dignify a response? Probably not but. Blueprint, Black Album and American Gangster..Yeah he really died cuz Eminem had a better verse than him alright.

[tommygun999]

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK WHERES THE FUCKING LEAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[unbound88]

Jay Z died with renegade. It was natural selection. Evolution if you will.

[tommygun999]

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK WHERES THE FUCKING LEAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

[therapist]

But I do know one thing though, Em leaks don't come or go. Saturday through sunday monday, monday through sunday yo. Maybe we'll hear it one day, maybe we'll someday know

[therapist]

Jay Z died with renegade. It was natural selection. Evolution if you will.

Bullshit. That's a silly stan fantasy if I've ever heard one. Em ripped Jay to shreds on Renegade, no doubt about it. Jay was great too, but Em was in Super Saiyan mode. Nobody could fuck with him on Renegade. But Jay's best album, The Black Album, came out after Renegade, as did American Gangster and Watch the Throne. Died with Renegade, my ass.

Ok ok. You guys win. What I said was slightly hyperbolic. Jay Z did not die... I love Hov, really, I do. I was just saying he got murdered. Jay Z will last no doubt.

[VINTAGƎ]

People respect Eminem, to the fullest.

Jay even referenced getting murdered on Renegade on A Star is Born, and I believe Kanye (though I hate him) said something along the lines of when everyone heard Ems Forever verse, he felt he had to go back and re write his shit because nothing was fucking with it.

People will hate on this, but it seems that Recovery and Hell the Sequel got Em his respect back in a sense.

Oh it definitely did. I think because he normalized his music. He dropped the weird accents and questionable subject matter and got serious.

I think he gets respect, but not as much as some of his peers. I'm not on any other hip hop forums but when I do an occasional lurk, Jay doesn't get nearly the same amount of hate that Em does. I don't think Jay has made a quality record since TBA and he's more so a business man than anything else, but he doesn't get hate.

And, really, that speaks to image more than anything. Kanye and Jay are more interested in creating an image. Because it's cool to listen to them. They rap about cool things. Cars, fancy labels, exotic vacations.

Eminem is rapping about homosexuals and vicodin haha.

Where was I going with this -- oh yeah...so I think his skin color + some of his material will prevent him from getting as much respect from other rappers that Jay does, but at the same time, no one will say anything because they know they'd get eaten up. How many rappers admit in interviews they'll beat everyone EXCEPT Eminem. Nobody wants to touch him. He's bad news.