Rolling Stones Interview- Nov. 7th

[EminemBase]

Well in terms of a musical album...

I think he's done the exact right thing in just trying to capture the spirit of the tones, content and the music but giving it its own stories and identity. I didn't expect him to literally sequel song concepts, I just expected references and similar themes...

Wow though, this is going to be really cool as he may rap about today's teens and connect it in that way: with the political subject-matter etc. it's going to be interesting hearing a more adult Em analyze things like this, he made a pretty great choice of timing / reaching 40 to do this album actually. Initially I thought the concept was lame @ '#2', but considering the monumental fact of his age, and that correlating with his old house now being old and rundown and worn...

Seems to make a lot of sense, and it works well.

I love the fact he said he's working as hard as TES era but just all in the music. This makes me trust that the album will be amazing/probable classic. If it's not then he really doesn't have it in him to make a classic any more - because for this much of his attention, brain power and creativity... and this amount of time... this HAS to be a classic. Wow, potential full blown classic in weeks.

Awesome shit.

[Guess_Who]

Finally an interview. Good to hear him speaking about the album. Like he said is about the nostalgia and the same vibe than in MMLP. People need to stop hoping for exactly the same type of songs. I think it will be a great album.

[XxachiganxX]

Its gonna be a current Marshall Mathers. Tellin it like it is!

[4Corners]

Em can't make a classic anymore. Thing is, what makes a classic is something that changes the game and sets its own mark in hip hop no matter what. It has to be something that comes and is like wowwwwww, makes everyone stop and want to do things differently and shit like that.

Guys like Em and Nas, even if they make good albums, we already know their older classics. They don't have anything new in terms of the sound and music to offer at this stage. Nothings going to be game changing that they're going to release. Could it be dope and amazing, yeah it could. But it's not going to be game changing at this point. That's why most all hip hop artists have their classics in their first 1-2 albums. Em actually defied that and dropped a classic IMO on his 3rd major album, TES.

[trentimus]

Em can't make a classic anymore. Thing is, what makes a classic is something that changes the game and sets its own mark in hip hop no matter what. It has to be something that comes and is like wowwwwww, makes everyone stop and want to do things differently and shit like that.

Guys like Em and Nas, even if they make good albums, we already know their older classics. They don't have anything new in terms of the sound and music to offer at this stage. Nothings going to be game changing that they're going to release. Could it be dope and amazing, yeah it could. But it's not going to be game changing at this point. That's why most all hip hop artists have their classics in their first 1-2 albums. Em actually defied that and dropped a classic IMO on his 3rd major album, TES.

I don't know if I agree with that..
Classic to me is if I can listen to it cover to cover after like 10 years and it still has the same WOW affect on me. SSLP, MMLP, TES are all albums I listen to this day and I just have to sit back at some of the production, word play and delivery and go FUUUUUUUUUUCK Em is a beast (not at songs, but whole albums).

obviously it's easier when they're new to everyone because then you know what to expect and you have a certain perception of the artist.. but if they can manage somehow to make you take a step back and re-evaluate them as artist then they are still capable of making a classic.. harder sure, but that's the point if you're one of the GOATs.

Rap God made me take a step back and realize Em still had some skill to show us, Berzerk that he was willing to take musical risk and go a unique direction.

This is what I am trying to take away from this interview.. He is gonna bring the same heart he brought on MMLP but that he is in a different zone now. I don't think it's dillusional considering how much this guy has changed his direction that he can do it again and surprise us all.

[4Corners]

Em can't make a classic anymore. Thing is, what makes a classic is something that changes the game and sets its own mark in hip hop no matter what. It has to be something that comes and is like wowwwwww, makes everyone stop and want to do things differently and shit like that.

Guys like Em and Nas, even if they make good albums, we already know their older classics. They don't have anything new in terms of the sound and music to offer at this stage. Nothings going to be game changing that they're going to release. Could it be dope and amazing, yeah it could. But it's not going to be game changing at this point. That's why most all hip hop artists have their classics in their first 1-2 albums. Em actually defied that and dropped a classic IMO on his 3rd major album, TES.

I don't know if I agree with that..
Classic to me is if I can listen to it cover to cover after like 10 years and it still has the same WOW affect on me. SSLP, MMLP, TES are all albums I listen to this day and I just have to sit back at some of the production, word play and delivery and go FUUUUUUUUUUCK Em is a beast (not at songs, but whole albums).

obviously it's easier when they're new to everyone because then you know what to expect and you have a certain perception of the artist.. but if they can manage somehow to make you take a step back and re-evaluate them as artist then they are still capable of making a classic.. harder sure, but that's the point if you're one of the GOATs.

Rap God made me take a step back and realize Em still had some skill to show us, Berzerk that he was willing to take musical risk and go a unique direction.

This is what I am trying to take away from this interview.. He is gonna bring the same heart he brought on MMLP but that he is in a different zone now. I don't think it's dillusional considering how much this guy has changed his direction that he can do it again and surprise us all.

I don't think a classic is one or a few peoples opinions though. For instance, I could listen to Stillmatic right now, it's been over 10 years, but I wouldn't consider Stillmatic a classic.

[trentimus]

If your opinion doesn't matter then there is no such thing as a classic. IJS

TES is a classic to me but not to everyone. It Was Written was a classic to me but not to everyone.

Everyone's perspective of classic is different I suppose.. just like people call GKMC a classic and it's barely a year old..

[4Corners]

If your opinion doesn't matter then there is no such thing as a classic. IJS

TES is a classic to me but not to everyone. It Was Written was a classic to me but not to everyone.

Everyone's perspective of classic is different I suppose.. just like people call GKMC a classic and it's barely a year old..

But there's a ton of fans who would consider TES and It Was Written classics, as well as critically too. More than just a few people on the internet.

I do feel Good Kid Maad City is/will be a classic.

[4Corners]

I don't think a classic is one or a few peoples opinions though. For instance, I could listen to Stillmatic right now, it's been over 10 years, but I wouldn't consider Stillmatic a classic.

Stillmatic is a fucking gem though.

I think that's best case scenario for Em with MMLP2.

Nas didn't try to replicate Illmatic completely, he just tried to recreate the feeling he had and the music from that album but in the 2000's.

If MMLP2 is as good as Stillmatic, I'll be happy as hell.

[trentimus]

I don't think a classic is one or a few peoples opinions though. For instance, I could listen to Stillmatic right now, it's been over 10 years, but I wouldn't consider Stillmatic a classic.

Stillmatic is a fucking gem though.

I think that's best case scenario for Em with MMLP2.

Nas didn't try to replicate Illmatic completely, he just tried to recreate the feeling he had and the music from that album but in the 2000's.

If MMLP2 is as good as Stillmatic, I'll be happy as hell.

Honestly let's just fuck the title.. Let's just pray it's even a SHADOW OF MMLP .. even if it's two-thirds of MMLP it will be amazing to me.

But, I am a Stan at the end of the day...

[trentimus]

Thing is no one ACTUALLY has any valid critique of Eminem anymore.. Dude is praised as a GOAT.

Has his daughter back.

No longer on drugs.

I am interested to hear the content of the album.

Oh and the best part of Em was that he didn't give a fuck.. Relapse to Recovery made it obvious he gave a fuck. But, he's getting older.. your priorities change.

[4Corners]

If it's not then he really doesn't have it in him to make a classic any more - because for this much of his attention, brain power and creativity... and this amount of time... .

This is unfortunately the predicament he's now got himself him. Not only naming it the Marshall Mathers LP 2 but following that with saying it's the hardest he worked since 8 Mile/TES era has really put the expectations through the roof.

What is comforting though, slightly, is how he himself admitted that he you can't just call it MMLP2 if it didn't meet a certain level of quality. MMLP is probably his favourite album, he even said last year during the 10th anniversary for 8 Mile interview that back in '02 when everyone started liking him, he was confused as fuck and trying to figure ways to get people mad at him again. He totally vibes off the negative feedback (not musically but content wise) plus I don't doubt his lyrics on "Fubba U Cubba Cubba" were fake:

"Shit I been gettin' so bored lately
I'm thinking of doing some shit to get you to go hate and me again"

I think he really thought Relapse would be received differently. I think he thought the rape shit, and all the weird stuff was going to cause some controversy, and it didn't IMO. That's a small part of why that album was a bit of a miss for me, but I still like it. There's not one album of his I don't like or think was at the least decent.

[4Corners]

Thing is no one ACTUALLY has any valid critique of Eminem anymore.. Dude is praised as a GOAT.

Has his daughter back.

No longer on drugs.

I am interested to hear the content of the album.

Oh and the best part of Em was that he didn't give a fuck.. Relapse to Recovery made it obvious he gave a fuck. But, he's getting older.. your priorities change.

There's a legion of people that think Em has fallen wayyyyyyyyyyyy off the past few years.

[trentimus]

I think he really thought Relapse would be received differently. I think he thought the rape shit, and all the weird stuff was going to cause some controversy, and it didn't IMO. That's a small part of why that album was a bit of a miss for me, but I still like it. There's not one album of his I don't like or think was at the least decent.

I sort of agree, especially with the hook on "Medicine Ball", you can't help but get the impression he was trying too hard. He wasn't back with SSLP and MMLP...I mean, he knew it would rile people up (especially after SSLP dropped) but he did it subtly and made the controversial statements seem as if they were just part of his personality. He didn't make it obvious that he WANTED to piss you off, which is why I think "Rap God" is catching some flack now because he's just saying stuff that's part of the song and not hammering it into the ground. It's a lot more damaging to carelessly insult someone without giving it a second thought than it is to let the people know you're trying to get them angry, to me anyway.

Both of theses>>>

[pastforumer]

"Calling it The Marshall Mathers LP 2, obviously I knew that there might be certain expectations," he says. "I wouldn't want to call it that just for the sake of calling it that. I had to make sure that I had the right songs – and just when you think you got it, you listen and you're like, 'Fuck, man! I feel like it needs this or that,' to paint the whole picture."

Em knows exactly what he's doing.

makes u wonder how monster made the cut of "needing this" *throw up*