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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby classthe_king » Dec 28th, '13, 07:11

ooooo kill em
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby UofLCard » Dec 28th, '13, 07:14

CrashBand wrote:who cares how we evolved. that is a misguided mindset that leads to all sorts of immoral justifications, lol.

do u hate gays as well m8?


If you're talking to me, not at all. And in regards to your first point...huh?
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby CrashBand » Dec 28th, '13, 07:16

humans evolved to eat meat sure. i'm saying that that isn't justification to eat meat.

and then used being gay as an analogy to illustrate my point.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby EminemInsider » Dec 28th, '13, 07:16

CrashBand wrote:who cares how we evolved. that is a misguided mindset that leads to all sorts of immoral justifications, lol.

do u hate gays as well m8?


Our digestive systems aren't designed for us to be vegetarians. True herbivores have much more complex digestive systems as plant material is much tougher to digest.

It's probably why vegetarians are more susceptible to all these rare forms of cancer.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby CrashBand » Dec 28th, '13, 07:18

if it's necessary, then u have a case, i'd like to see some evidence though, instead of baseless suggestions.

i dont believe we need to eat meat, because of all the healthy vegetarians, lol.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby CanadaPure » Dec 28th, '13, 07:23

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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby UofLCard » Dec 28th, '13, 07:23

CrashBand wrote:if it's necessary, then u have a case, i'd like to see some evidence though, instead of baseless suggestions.

i dont believe we need to eat meat, because of all the healthy vegetarians, lol.


For what it's worth, I have an aunt and uncle who are vegans, and they aren't what you would call models for great health.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby CrashBand » Dec 28th, '13, 07:25

CrashBand wrote:kill you, don't derail this thread with your idiocy please. i'm seriously undecided on the word faggot, but i think all the intelligent ppl on the board disagree with me here.

but "faggot" definitely isn't completely removed from homophobic connotations. like, what about a youtube comment on an elton john video that said "i hate this faggot". i dont think it's dubious to presume that most ppl would take that as a homophobic swipe.


CrashBand wrote:i disagree that it's obvious that a comment like that isn't referring to his sexuality because people still do use it as homophobic insults as well.


@Insider, do u mind giving ur views on this as well, cos i'm genuinely pretty undecided.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby CrashBand » Dec 28th, '13, 07:25

UofLCard wrote:
CrashBand wrote:if it's necessary, then u have a case, i'd like to see some evidence though, instead of baseless suggestions.

i dont believe we need to eat meat, because of all the healthy vegetarians, lol.


For what it's worth, I have an aunt and uncle who are vegans, and they aren't what you would call models for great health.

anecdotes aren't vry helpful in an argument, btw.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby UofLCard » Dec 28th, '13, 07:27

CrashBand wrote:
UofLCard wrote:
CrashBand wrote:if it's necessary, then u have a case, i'd like to see some evidence though, instead of baseless suggestions.

i dont believe we need to eat meat, because of all the healthy vegetarians, lol.


For what it's worth, I have an aunt and uncle who are vegans, and they aren't what you would call models for great health.

anecdotes aren't vry helpful in an argument, btw.


My point is that being a vegetarian/vegan doesn't automatically mean you'll be in tip top shape.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby CrashBand » Dec 28th, '13, 07:30

i was never arguing it's more healthy to be a vegetarian, lol, just that it's morally better. in fact, i'm sure it's better for ur health to eat meat. i just dont think think it's necessary. like, i dont think it's necessary to never drink alcohol, but you'd be healthier if u did.

so i dont think u can argue that someone must eat meat, or someone mustn't drink alcohol.

and killing animals unnecessarily is morally bad.

but idgaf about animals, like u guys, so whatevs.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby kkaniff » Dec 28th, '13, 07:32

I dont know about cancer, but I'm quite sure that vegitarians are susceptible to certain vitamin deficiencies, I'd tell you the exact ones but I'm notoriously slow in the morning.
Also the fact that we evolved as omnivores, hints that its the most suitable lifestyle for us.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby EminemInsider » Dec 28th, '13, 13:47

Regarding faggot/homophobia, it definitely can still be used by homophobes in a homophobic context, but context is the key to any words, as George Carlin brilliantly pointed out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pksx_IAHDE

With Eminem, we know his context is tongue-in-cheek, so there's nothing to be concerned with.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby classthe_king » Dec 28th, '13, 20:11

the problem isn't that you're using it in a homophobic way it's that by using it as an insult you're giving homosexuality a negative connotation.
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Re: Eminem and Bias of the Gay Culture

Postby chopsuey567 » Dec 29th, '13, 01:32

duz typin like dis make me cool n' edgy?
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