TR Poverty Hockey Pool 2014-2015

[DetroitSkills]

OP updated just w/ the pickuphockey shit.

my dude

[runSA]

I think im the only guy in this thread to pick NYR guys

[CanadaPure]

I'm gonna win the pool and y'all gon' be sad.

Next year we might be able to go a little more in depth with hits and such being totaled also. I just didn't want to make anything too complicated for the first pool.

[runSA]

I'm gonna win the pool and y'all gon' be sad.

Next year we might be able to go a little more in depth with hits and such being totaled also. I just didn't want to make anything too complicated for the first pool.

Only problem with the scoring is how little plus/minus means for defensemen

[CanadaPure]

I'm gonna win the pool and y'all gon' be sad.

Next year we might be able to go a little more in depth with hits and such being totaled also. I just didn't want to make anything too complicated for the first pool.

Only problem with the scoring is how little plus/minus means for defensemen

+/- in general is an awful stat, we'll see how it impacts the outcome of the pool this year and if it doesn't seem to be working it can always be removed.

[CanadaPure]

I'm gonna win the pool and y'all gon' be sad.

Next year we might be able to go a little more in depth with hits and such being totaled also. I just didn't want to make anything too complicated for the first pool.

Only problem with the scoring is how little plus/minus means for defensemen

What do you mean?

I think he means that the scoring system is balanced in a way that +/- isn't weighed very heavily for defense. It's only worth one point, just like with forwards, even though a lot of people judge defensemen based on their +/-.

That is by design though. I find +/- to be a fairly irrelevant stat. More important, if you're talking about defensive defensemen, would be their giveaway:takeaway ratio and plenty of other things. +/- is something that can be entirely separated from how you're playing just based on things like timing (stepping on the ice as a goal is scored), etc.

[DetroitSkills]

I'm gonna win the pool and y'all gon' be sad.

Next year we might be able to go a little more in depth with hits and such being totaled also. I just didn't want to make anything too complicated for the first pool.

Only problem with the scoring is how little plus/minus means for defensemen

+/- in general is an awful stat, we'll see how it impacts the outcome of the pool this year and if it doesn't seem to be working it can always be removed.

plus minus is a dumb stat srsly a dude can just get on the ice for his shift n take a minus so dumb

[CanadaPure]

I don't really mind the +/- stat. I understand that sometimes a player could be a -3 one night and all the goals that went in was not his fault at all. I can tell you that when a player is like a -30 by the end of the season that something is wrong with their defence game because Jason Spezza, Milan Michalek and Erik Karlsson were all heavy minus players last year and their defence game was poor. No back checking, they didn't play hard , you'd seen them float on the ice and not in the game, they'd make poor decisions with the puck and would cost us a goal etc etc you know, a really poor defensive game and that's where I think that +/- may be important in some cases.

Oh yeah, it's a stat that can be telling. Like, Edlers horrible +/- last year was directly related to how awful he was defensively. But it can also be taken out of context for some players, and that's why it's not weighted as heavily.

[DetroitSkills]

speaking of plus/minus i tried to play right side defense on eashl last night... LEL never again theres a reason im only a goalie n RW, i was all over i have no idea how to man that postition... you never realize how different a switch from forward to defense is until u switch tbh, i give props to those guys who can play both

[DetroitSkills]

I'm talking about real hockey and not the pool. I think you're talking about the pool, the way you setup the pool is perfect imo.

i think were all on the same page talkin bout real hockey

[DetroitSkills]

im a goalie when i play, or a wing man usually a guy who plays to the sides n picks a corner on the net haha, but thats only if someone else wants to goalie. im naturally a goaltender tho, been playing that position since i was 5, i needa get back into playing, i miss my love for it

[DetroitSkills]

Sens vs Habs preseason on right now....game tied at one.

watchin wings vs toronto

[CanadaPure]

Playing hockey is so fun. I play ball hockey and I usually play on the wing. I'm a play maker/pass first type guy, I can still shoot though.

I'm in a ball hockey league right now, I usually play right defense. Last night only three defensemen on our team could play, the rest were sick, so I ended up playing 55 minutes total. I was so tired after. I'm more of a shutdown type guy, and I block a tonne of shots, but I have a nice wrist shot and a good slapshot.

My first pass is okay, but its always been my weak point. I rely on my strength and positioning the most since all the other defensemen on my team (aside from my normal partner, but he was sick last game) are all over the map.

Also, I'm team captain this year which is dope.

[runSA]

I really wish I played hockey competivly as a little kid so I could be on my school team now. It would've been so sick. But instead I chose football which don't get me wrong i love playing but hockey just seems to be so fun to play

[DetroitSkills]

Playing hockey is so fun. I play ball hockey and I usually play on the wing. I'm a play maker/pass first type guy, I can still shoot though.

I'm in a ball hockey league right now, I usually play right defense. Last night only three defensemen on our team could play, the rest were sick, so I ended up playing 55 minutes total. I was so tired after. I'm more of a shutdown type guy, and I block a tonne of shots, but I have a nice wrist shot and a good slapshot.

My first pass is okay, but its always been my weak point. I rely on my strength and positioning the most since all the other defensemen on my team (aside from my normal partner, but he was sick last game) are all over the map.

Also, I'm team captain this year which is dope.

i fuckin applaud you, defense is hard af imo, especially the positioning imo but this coming from a guy who never plays d lol