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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby <Stiiccy> » May 15th, '09, 00:24

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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby SlmShady200 » May 15th, '09, 22:58

llviaquez wrote:What's wrong with gays adopting?

I am gay, and I've come to chime in. I truly don't understand any sort of bigotry geared toward the gay community. Not natural? First of all, whether through nature or nurture, homosexuality or even bisexuality is uncontrollable. Trust me. When I realized that I was gay at around 14 years old, it was the scariest experience of my life. At the time, I thought my life was ruined, and I wanted so bad to be straight. I tried watching straight porn and dating girls and everything, but it didn't change anything. I am gay, and there is nothing I can do about it. Whether I was born this way or not shouldn't even matter. If I could choose to be straight right now, I would do it in a heartbeat. And this is exactly why I can't stand any sort of intolerance towards the gay community period. Even for the good number of people who say shit along the lines of "I'm okay with gay marriage even if I disagree with the lifestyle." That's still intolerance, and it's still bigoted.

Obviously I have a biased towards this subject as I am gay and have gay friends who are great people, but I can't even begin to justify the other side of the argument.


If your gay why the fuck are you on Trshady , I thought gays hated em. Then again he is friends with elton.... I don't fucking know but bottom line is being gay is controllable Im pretty sure. God wouldn't state directly in the bible that homosexuality is wrong if you can't control being gay. Maybe you hit you fucking head really hard.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby llviaquez » May 16th, '09, 01:22

SlmShady200 wrote:
llviaquez wrote:What's wrong with gays adopting?

I am gay, and I've come to chime in. I truly don't understand any sort of bigotry geared toward the gay community. Not natural? First of all, whether through nature or nurture, homosexuality or even bisexuality is uncontrollable. Trust me. When I realized that I was gay at around 14 years old, it was the scariest experience of my life. At the time, I thought my life was ruined, and I wanted so bad to be straight. I tried watching straight porn and dating girls and everything, but it didn't change anything. I am gay, and there is nothing I can do about it. Whether I was born this way or not shouldn't even matter. If I could choose to be straight right now, I would do it in a heartbeat. And this is exactly why I can't stand any sort of intolerance towards the gay community period. Even for the good number of people who say shit along the lines of "I'm okay with gay marriage even if I disagree with the lifestyle." That's still intolerance, and it's still bigoted.

Obviously I have a biased towards this subject as I am gay and have gay friends who are great people, but I can't even begin to justify the other side of the argument.


If your gay why the fuck are you on Trshady , I thought gays hated em. Then again he is friends with elton.... I don't fucking know but bottom line is being gay is controllable Im pretty sure. God wouldn't state directly in the bible that homosexuality is wrong if you can't control being gay. Maybe you hit you fucking head really hard.


Wow, you really opened my eyes.

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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Cwayon_Murder » May 16th, '09, 06:50

SlmShady200 wrote:
llviaquez wrote:What's wrong with gays adopting?

I am gay, and I've come to chime in. I truly don't understand any sort of bigotry geared toward the gay community. Not natural? First of all, whether through nature or nurture, homosexuality or even bisexuality is uncontrollable. Trust me. When I realized that I was gay at around 14 years old, it was the scariest experience of my life. At the time, I thought my life was ruined, and I wanted so bad to be straight. I tried watching straight porn and dating girls and everything, but it didn't change anything. I am gay, and there is nothing I can do about it. Whether I was born this way or not shouldn't even matter. If I could choose to be straight right now, I would do it in a heartbeat. And this is exactly why I can't stand any sort of intolerance towards the gay community period. Even for the good number of people who say shit along the lines of "I'm okay with gay marriage even if I disagree with the lifestyle." That's still intolerance, and it's still bigoted.

Obviously I have a biased towards this subject as I am gay and have gay friends who are great people, but I can't even begin to justify the other side of the argument.


If your gay why the fuck are you on Trshady , I thought gays hated em. Then again he is friends with elton.... I don't fucking know but bottom line is being gay is controllable Im pretty sure. God wouldn't state directly in the bible that homosexuality is wrong if you can't control being gay. Maybe you hit you fucking head really hard.


Or maybe you were brainwashed by a pastor when you were a little boy?
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby llviaquez » May 16th, '09, 17:22

McMaybe wrote:
llviaquez wrote:What's wrong with gays adopting?

I am gay, and I've come to chime in. I truly don't understand any sort of bigotry geared toward the gay community. Not natural? First of all, whether through nature or nurture, homosexuality or even bisexuality is uncontrollable. Trust me. When I realized that I was gay at around 14 years old, it was the scariest experience of my life. At the time, I thought my life was ruined, and I wanted so bad to be straight. I tried watching straight porn and dating girls and everything, but it didn't change anything. I am gay, and there is nothing I can do about it. Whether I was born this way or not shouldn't even matter. If I could choose to be straight right now, I would do it in a heartbeat. And this is exactly why I can't stand any sort of intolerance towards the gay community period. Even for the good number of people who say shit along the lines of "I'm okay with gay marriage even if I disagree with the lifestyle." That's still intolerance, and it's still bigoted.

Obviously I have a biased towards this subject as I am gay and have gay friends who are great people, but I can't even begin to justify the other side of the argument.


Let me shed some enlightenment your way. Agreeing with gay marriage rights, while disagreeing with the lifestyle, is not being intolerant or bigoted. It's called being straight. Maybe, from a gay mans perspective, being straight is an understandable lifestyle, but from a straight mans point of view, the gay lifestyle isn't acceptable. I personally have no problem with the gay community, hell, I have a few gay friends. I work with gay people, and we get along as any other coworker would. Do I agree that the gay lifestyle is the right one? No. Do they hate me for it? Do they resent me for it? Do they say that I'm intolerant or bigoted? No, no and no. You seem to have a lot of things to work out with yourself. You shouldn't want to change under any circumstances, and being happy with yourself is the only thing that should be natural in this discussion. whether you were born or made gay is irrelevant, the fact is that you shouldn't want to change yourself.

Being gay shouldn't be considered wrong, as it's not a preference. Unlike racism. You can say what you will, but you cannot argue that my point is not valid to a degree. I suppose to some extent, anytime someone disagrees with you it can be considered intolerant or ignorant, but that's just called self conscious.


All that I'm saying is that when somebody calls a person's uncontrollable sexual orientation wrong, it strikes me as just a bit intolerant. Wrong means fallacious and incorrect, and you said yourself that you view the gay lifestyle as unacceptable. However, you say that being happy and not wanting to change yourself is the only thing that should matter. I don't understand how being happy with yourself and who you are is at any point an antithesis to righteousness, considering your lifestyle is harmless to others. I'm not saying at all that you're an asshole and that I don't like people like you, I just find it a bit odd when people are pro gay-rights and then claim that the lifestyle is unacceptable and of fault. Again, I obviously hold some bias here.

I thank you for keeping your response astute and unoffensive.
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby MC Anonymous » May 19th, '09, 11:22

McMaybe wrote:Well, I should probably rephrase. By unacceptable, I mean it is unacceptable for myself. I, obviously, could never "agree" with the gay lifestyle because I'm not gay myself. I don't find it wrong, though. Unacceptable may have been the wrong word to use here. Personally, I find that people should be allowed to live their life as they wish, or as they were born to live; but, I myself find that the lifestyle they choose is not suitable for me, so I could never see it as an acceptable way of life. For example: Just because I wouldn't go water skiing, doesn't mean that people that do are wrong. I don't find it something that I agree with, but I have nothing against people that enjoy it.

I can see how you would find the word intolerant necessary. I was watching the Tyra Banks show last night, and this mother refused to attend her daughters wedding because her daughter was having a same sex marriage. No matter how hard they tried to convince the mother, she would not accept it. She ended up going to the wedding, but was very bitter about it. I can see that it's still hard for people to accept what others do, and being surrounded by bigotry cannot be easy.

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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby <Stiiccy> » May 19th, '09, 23:24

MC Anonymous wrote:
McMaybe wrote:Well, I should probably rephrase. By unacceptable, I mean it is unacceptable for myself. I, obviously, could never "agree" with the gay lifestyle because I'm not gay myself. I don't find it wrong, though. Unacceptable may have been the wrong word to use here. Personally, I find that people should be allowed to live their life as they wish, or as they were born to live; but, I myself find that the lifestyle they choose is not suitable for me, so I could never see it as an acceptable way of life. For example: Just because I wouldn't go water skiing, doesn't mean that people that do are wrong. I don't find it something that I agree with, but I have nothing against people that enjoy it.

I can see how you would find the word intolerant necessary. I was watching the Tyra Banks show last night, and this mother refused to attend her daughters wedding because her daughter was having a same sex marriage. No matter how hard they tried to convince the mother, she would not accept it. She ended up going to the wedding, but was very bitter about it. I can see that it's still hard for people to accept what others do, and being surrounded by bigotry cannot be easy.

Don't let the few negative comments here make you want to leave.


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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Noeezy » May 26th, '09, 21:25

straight from the American Psychological Association

"There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles...."
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Slim Zaddy » May 29th, '09, 15:08

llviaquez wrote:What's wrong with gays adopting?

I am gay, and I've come to chime in. I truly don't understand any sort of bigotry geared toward the gay community. Not natural? First of all, whether through nature or nurture, homosexuality or even bisexuality is uncontrollable. Trust me. When I realized that I was gay at around 14 years old, it was the scariest experience of my life. At the time, I thought my life was ruined, and I wanted so bad to be straight. I tried watching straight porn and dating girls and everything, but it didn't change anything. I am gay, and there is nothing I can do about it. Whether I was born this way or not shouldn't even matter. If I could choose to be straight right now, I would do it in a heartbeat. And this is exactly why I can't stand any sort of intolerance towards the gay community period. Even for the good number of people who say shit along the lines of "I'm okay with gay marriage even if I disagree with the lifestyle." That's still intolerance, and it's still bigoted.

Obviously I have a biased towards this subject as I am gay and have gay friends who are great people, but I can't even begin to justify the other side of the argument.


damn , that's bad , but listen i dont have problem with you gay guys , live your life , do what ever you feel right to do , but at the end ,, being gay is not natural , and it can be controlled , if you want that too ,, but if you like you're self being a gay , then it's a anther situation ,, but still at the end of the day ,, i dont hate ya guys , but i just dont like your lifestyle ,, i think man should be a man ,, even if you were born as a gay ,, it can be controlled ,,
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Solace » May 30th, '09, 00:55

And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby <Stiiccy> » May 30th, '09, 00:58

Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:

It comes with a free controller..kinna like Xbox only with a penis as the joy stick
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Slim Zaddy » May 30th, '09, 09:45

<Stiiccy> wrote:
Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:

It comes with a free controller..kinna like Xbox only with a penis as the joy stick


hahahahah damn bro ,, lol ,,
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Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:


well yeah everything can be under controlled , it's a desire , but it depend manly on the person , so even if he was a gay and he feels that's what he's feeling is abnormal or something , and want to be something else like straight , then he can ,, only if he want to ,, if he has the desire to alter and if he sees that gay things is not for him , so step by step automatically he will begin to convince himself that he want to be straight , till emotionally from inside ,he will start to feel being attracted to the opposite sex .. so it's kind of desire and insisting
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Solace » May 30th, '09, 22:22

Slim Zaddy wrote:
<Stiiccy> wrote:
Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:

It comes with a free controller..kinna like Xbox only with a penis as the joy stick


hahahahah damn bro ,, lol ,,
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Solace wrote:And you would know it can be controlled, how? :unsure:


well yeah everything can be under controlled , it's a desire , but it depend manly on the person , so even if he was a gay and he feels that's what he's feeling is abnormal or something , and want to be something else like straight , then he can ,, only if he want to ,, if he has the desire to alter and if he sees that gay things is not for him , so step by step automatically he will begin to convince himself that he want to be straight , till emotionally from inside ,he will start to feel being attracted to the opposite sex .. so it's kind of desire and insisting

And how do you know its just so easy to magically switch what your attracted to? How would you know any of this, considering you aren't a homosexual? :unsure:
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby Robbie G » May 31st, '09, 03:03

If you truly are gay I doubt you can just switch back... :unsure:
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Re: Gay Marriage

Postby lady speedstik » May 31st, '09, 06:17

<Stiiccy> wrote:
llviaquez wrote:What's wrong with gays adopting?

I am gay, and I've come to chime in. I truly don't understand any sort of bigotry geared toward the gay community. Not natural? First of all, whether through nature or nurture, homosexuality or even bisexuality is uncontrollable. Trust me. When I realized that I was gay at around 14 years old, it was the scariest experience of my life. At the time, I thought my life was ruined, and I wanted so bad to be straight. I tried watching straight porn and dating girls and everything, but it didn't change anything. I am gay, and there is nothing I can do about it. Whether I was born this way or not shouldn't even matter. If I could choose to be straight right now, I would do it in a heartbeat. And this is exactly why I can't stand any sort of intolerance towards the gay community period. Even for the good number of people who say shit along the lines of "I'm okay with gay marriage even if I disagree with the lifestyle." That's still intolerance, and it's still bigoted.

Obviously I have a biased towards this subject as I am gay and have gay friends who are great people, but I can't even begin to justify the other side of the argument.

lol what a homo...i bet you be suckin some cock right now...
i bet you take it in the ass dont you? faggot...fuckin butt pirate lol...

kill yourself homie...we dont accept faggots

Sorry, but must you be so fucking ignorant? I bet you get sooo many girls with that attitude. And no, you can't just magically switch back. It is not controllable, I know. I relate to llviaquez. I went through a time where I wished I were straight because things would be so much easier, I wouldn't have to worry about coming out to my conservative father who has said once that he wished my gay brother were straight. It truly makes me sick how people still behave this way. As someone else said, it's 2009, get with the times. Don't go around calling gay people faggots and all that. That's completely out of line. Homosexuality IS genetic/hereditary, and though some people who have been sexually abused as children have become homosexual, it's really not how you were brought up. Being a "manly" father does not play any part in the orientation of your child. Hell, my other brother's best friend is gay and I wouldn't have guessed in a million years, since he's a sports fanatic and goes to bars to drink and stuff. You don't usually see many gay guys interested in that, since the media and everything portrays them as being only flamboyant. Same with lesbians, being portrayed as butch.
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